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On December 12 2023 06:02 DarthPunk wrote: Wtf is chez doing btw Proselytizing.
Also ministering and such.
But now that it is not the Lord's day, I expect he will return when work allows. He is a higher up in a company that the DOD uses as a contractor (like most capable Americans who aren't idealistically opposed to such work) and thus has a pretty busy schedule.
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On December 12 2023 06:02 DarthPunk wrote: Wtf is chez doing btw Agree, less… something than previous games. Dunno what.
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Marv has done better since my case, and it doesn't have any traction regardless. But please don't let marv be lazy later on.
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Was hoping to come home to more than 5 posts tbh, bit dull.
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On December 12 2023 06:47 DarthPunk wrote: ##unvote:
Marv has done better since my case, and it doesn't have any traction regardless. But please don't let marv be lazy later on.
I have? Do tell.
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On December 12 2023 06:47 marvellosity wrote: Was hoping to come home to more than 5 posts tbh, bit dull.
I like this marv.
What do you think of Vivax at this juncture, there are things that he has said that made me think he claimed scum, and also things that stand out to me as kind of aligning with the resentment of being town on an inevitable march towards oblivion.
Also if you removed your expectations of Sandro, does that change your read on him at all.
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On December 12 2023 06:47 DarthPunk wrote: ##unvote:
Marv has done better since my case, and it doesn't have any traction regardless. But please don't let marv be lazy later on.
It was a good case, almost as good as my oneliner. No need to feel discouraged.
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On December 12 2023 06:50 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 06:47 DarthPunk wrote: ##unvote:
Marv has done better since my case, and it doesn't have any traction regardless. But please don't let marv be lazy later on.
It was a good case, almost as good as my oneliner. No need to feel discouraged.
I'm not, I didn't think it was good enough to actually get him lynched day one
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On December 12 2023 06:46 marvellosity wrote:Agree, less… something than previous games. Dunno what.
I mean in the other games he actually posted reads day one.
I have found him to be generally readable and contributory in every game.
This game he hasn't done anything, I couldn't tell you one position he holds.
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On December 12 2023 06:49 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 06:47 marvellosity wrote: Was hoping to come home to more than 5 posts tbh, bit dull. I like this marv. What do you think of Vivax at this juncture, there are things that he has said that made me think he claimed scum, and also things that stand out to me as kind of aligning with the resentment of being town on an inevitable march towards oblivion. Also if you removed your expectations of Sandro, does that change your read on him at all. I think of Vivax almost exactly what you just said. Tbh I don’t think it’s 100% but I don’t think the lynch is changing at this point. I know I said I’d consolidate, but tbh I won’t, if there are shenannies anywhere I wouldn’t mind them on sandro. Of course that also leaves shenannies open on me, but that’s a fun dice roll.
I don’t know how to remove my expectations of sandro. I go back to his first post, and he waffles hilariously on Slam, and it’s all just so bland. All his posts since have been mostly fine, he’s an astute person so he can make decent sounding posts. I don’t see any drive to solve the game, I really don’t know what he was doing with Trfel, I don’t understand his read progression on him generally.
I dunno, feels like he’s ‘analysing’ things but without any endpoint. Which (my expectations or not) I don’t think is very townie.
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On December 12 2023 06:51 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 06:50 Palmar wrote:On December 12 2023 06:47 DarthPunk wrote: ##unvote:
Marv has done better since my case, and it doesn't have any traction regardless. But please don't let marv be lazy later on.
It was a good case, almost as good as my oneliner. No need to feel discouraged. I'm not, I didn't think it was good enough to actually get him lynched day one  The problem is you’re not right enough, not that you’re not good enough. xx
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On December 12 2023 06:56 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 06:46 marvellosity wrote:On December 12 2023 06:02 DarthPunk wrote: Wtf is chez doing btw Agree, less… something than previous games. Dunno what. I mean in the other games he actually posted reads day one. I have found him to be generally readable and contributory in every game. This game he hasn't done anything, I couldn't tell you one position he holds. Yes
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On December 12 2023 06:47 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 06:47 DarthPunk wrote: ##unvote:
Marv has done better since my case, and it doesn't have any traction regardless. But please don't let marv be lazy later on.
I have? Do tell.
You need some affirmation? just seemed more engaged, and said some smart things. That's all I really want from you at this point.
Just to be clear, I am not calling you town
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On December 12 2023 06:57 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 06:47 marvellosity wrote:On December 12 2023 06:47 DarthPunk wrote: ##unvote:
Marv has done better since my case, and it doesn't have any traction regardless. But please don't let marv be lazy later on.
I have? Do tell. You need some affirmation? just seemed more engaged, and said some smart things. That's all I really want from you at this point. Just to be clear, I am not calling you town  No, I want to see if I agree with your reasons or not. Unsurprisingly I don’t need affirmation of my alignment
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On December 12 2023 06:56 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 06:49 DarthPunk wrote:On December 12 2023 06:47 marvellosity wrote: Was hoping to come home to more than 5 posts tbh, bit dull. I like this marv. What do you think of Vivax at this juncture, there are things that he has said that made me think he claimed scum, and also things that stand out to me as kind of aligning with the resentment of being town on an inevitable march towards oblivion. Also if you removed your expectations of Sandro, does that change your read on him at all. I think of Vivax almost exactly what you just said. Tbh I don’t think it’s 100% but I don’t think the lynch is changing at this point. I know I said I’d consolidate, but tbh I won’t, if there are shenannies anywhere I wouldn’t mind them on sandro. Of course that also leaves shenannies open on me, but that’s a fun dice roll. I don’t know how to remove my expectations of sandro. I go back to his first post, and he waffles hilariously on Slam, and it’s all just so bland. All his posts since have been mostly fine, he’s an astute person so he can make decent sounding posts. I don’t see any drive to solve the game, I really don’t know what he was doing with Trfel, I don’t understand his read progression on him generally. I dunno, feels like he’s ‘analysing’ things but without any endpoint. Which (my expectations or not) I don’t think is very townie.
I had zero expectations of Sandro or Trfel (can't really remember playing with them) I think sandro doesn't look great, but he has also been on the back foot since his first post in the game.
I also don't think he has done anything that clearly makes him mafia. I think it might be valuable to give him some space and let him kind of feel his way back into things.
You know my theory on shenanigans, they are good for the soul. But if vivax leaves things as they are I am fine with him dying.
If he started trying to make sense I would perhaps entertain something.
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On December 12 2023 07:05 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 06:56 marvellosity wrote:On December 12 2023 06:49 DarthPunk wrote:On December 12 2023 06:47 marvellosity wrote: Was hoping to come home to more than 5 posts tbh, bit dull. I like this marv. What do you think of Vivax at this juncture, there are things that he has said that made me think he claimed scum, and also things that stand out to me as kind of aligning with the resentment of being town on an inevitable march towards oblivion. Also if you removed your expectations of Sandro, does that change your read on him at all. I think of Vivax almost exactly what you just said. Tbh I don’t think it’s 100% but I don’t think the lynch is changing at this point. I know I said I’d consolidate, but tbh I won’t, if there are shenannies anywhere I wouldn’t mind them on sandro. Of course that also leaves shenannies open on me, but that’s a fun dice roll. I don’t know how to remove my expectations of sandro. I go back to his first post, and he waffles hilariously on Slam, and it’s all just so bland. All his posts since have been mostly fine, he’s an astute person so he can make decent sounding posts. I don’t see any drive to solve the game, I really don’t know what he was doing with Trfel, I don’t understand his read progression on him generally. I dunno, feels like he’s ‘analysing’ things but without any endpoint. Which (my expectations or not) I don’t think is very townie. I had zero expectations of Sandro or Trfel (can't really remember playing with them) I think sandro doesn't look great, but he has also been on the back foot since his first post in the game. I also don't think he has done anything that clearly makes him mafia. I think it might be valuable to give him some space and let him kind of feel his way back into things. You know my theory on shenanigans, they are good for the soul. But if vivax leaves things as they are I am fine with him dying. If he started trying to make sense I would perhaps entertain something. We’ll, there’s very few people who do something that clearly makes them mafia d1. That’s not the burden of proof here.
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And tbh, it’s not like I’ve been hounding him so all he’s had to do is defend himself.
Quite the opposite, he moaned I wasn’t engaging with him. He’s had his space
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On December 12 2023 02:57 sandroba wrote: Or maybe I just suck while thinking I'm onto something and expecting you feel the same but actually you are just right and good while I'm bad? A harder pill to swallow but I guess could be true
Like I kind of felt this was genuine.
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On December 12 2023 07:08 marvellosity wrote: And tbh, it’s not like I’ve been hounding him so all he’s had to do is defend himself.
Quite the opposite, he moaned I wasn’t engaging with him. He’s had his space Sure from you, but I think he was copping flak from a lot of the thread. Also the moaning kind of struck me like he was disappointed that you were not reading him correctly.
Emotional congruence and all that.
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On December 12 2023 07:09 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 02:57 sandroba wrote: Or maybe I just suck while thinking I'm onto something and expecting you feel the same but actually you are just right and good while I'm bad? A harder pill to swallow but I guess could be true Like I kind of felt this was genuine. Felt too submissive to me
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