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On December 11 2023 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a bit drunk maybe, i dont think trfel is mafia, DP might be but maybe not because he is all fucking in on this, and i dont understand any of this shit...
I only know for like 90% that he is wrong because Trfel is not mafia. Maybe 10% but no.
It would be really funny if Trfel is mafia though, cause that would be twice in a row :D
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On December 11 2023 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Did he actually try and justify that vote on you from the start of the game? Cause that does look bad.
Read his filter.
Yeah I am about to.
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Rayn before you go. Is koshi mafia or town if you had to choose.
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On December 11 2023 06:35 Trfel wrote:
I think at this point I'd be okay with lynching Koshi (if he is going to play like this), and potentially okay with lynching DarthPunk. Sandroba's recent set of posts were more interesting to me, I didn't necessarily agree with everything he was saying but it helps me to put together his mindset/approach. Holyflare's point that he's focusing on defending himself from presumed incorrect accusations instead of actually finding mafia or being productive is strong, now that he's actually shared suspicions I look forward to him coming back tomorrow. Vivax I could definitely see being mafia but I don't think I want to lynch him as much as Koshi or DarthPunk at this point.
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On December 11 2023 07:07 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:01 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 06:58 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 06:53 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 06:36 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:
I also tend to think that with the pressure that Sandro has been under picking a fight with marv seems like a terrible play as mafia, so it feels genuine to me. Here @DarthPunk Here, I'll quote it again. Quoting it again doesn't magically make it worthwhile. 1.)I didn't call sandro town. If I think someone is town I will say they are town. 2.) You said basically the same thing about sandro as me regarding his posting revealing his mindset. 3.) I left the thread in the middle of the night. Therefore I am mafia. 1 - Okay, I'll leave this post: On December 11 2023 06:49 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 05:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Sandroba also looks good to me when he posts, so again, don't understand the scum reads on him. On December 11 2023 06:03 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2023 05:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Sandroba also looks good to me when he posts, so again, don't understand the scum reads on him.
Why, please? Basically because in isolation his posts resonate with my own thinking in some way. I do think you had one of the best reasons to call him mafia though, which I hadn't read when I made that post. But I still don't think I would lynch him at this point. On December 11 2023 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 05:58 sandroba wrote:On December 11 2023 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2023 05:42 sandroba wrote:On December 11 2023 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sandroba are you gonna be here in like 30mins?
i WILL have another round of sauna, but after that i would very much like to interact with you head-to-head if you are here. I'm not going to stick around much longer, my youngest just woke up. I'll be back around 10pm ET. Tomorrow I'll be available throughout the day why is marv mafia? Something is off about the way he says "his first terrible post", seems needlessly antagonistic, a bit too assertive about maybe the contents of the post being terrible? Doesn't explain much about why such post was "terrible" or even if terrible means suspicious. The rest of his content just seems a bit of stirring the pot, but not in a way to actually talk about something suspicious, but instead to keep people nit-picking on each other in circles. Like I agree with the observations in this post, while I disagree with the conclusion. It makes me feel like he is reading the thread closely and thinking about what things mean, I think that is hard to fake as mafia. I also tend to think that with the pressure that Sandro has been under picking a fight with marv seems like a terrible play as mafia, so it feels genuine to me. On December 11 2023 06:21 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
it's not even like CAN marv be mafia, but like... marv is mafia here now in this game, one of the most mafia reads.. rly? I mean I understand that, but I also think I could see it from Sandro's perspective, I don't see how making this accusation actually does anything positive for Sandro's agenda if he is mafia. I also tend to think that townies will make really dumb reads a lot, but as long as I feel like I can understand the reasons for the read in some way, it's fine. With his marv read the observations are correct to me, I just think the conclusion is wrong because marv tends to be more of a jerk (in the nicest possible way) as town and more conciliatory as mafia. But I don't expect Sandro to have that information or arrive at that conclusion based on how long he has been away. To me, these posts say that you think sandroba is town. Not like 100% bet your life on it certainty or anything, but if you had to guess you'd say he's town. So, townread. You're defending him, bringing up reasons why he is town, saying his play doesn't make sense as mafia. What else am I supposed to think? If this isn't a townread then what is? to stand for itself. If people choose to believe that you don't think sandroba is town and yet you made these posts, then whatever. 2 - So? I don't care. That's not why you are mafia. You can agree with me on something and still be mafia. 3 - We discussed this. Please stop being intentionally obtuse. I don't care if you think I am mafia, but the constant badgering with questions, ignoring the answers, and then misrepresenting me is getting really annoying really quick.
Gotta head out for a bit, going to clear my head. Yeesh. Why are you talking to me like I am town?
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On December 11 2023 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Am i mafia with sandroba because i scumread him and i talked to him like he is town, just because i dont have encounters with him, and i also wanted to be nice because of it?
No, but that’s not the only reason I think Trfel is mafia.
But let’s do this another way. Why is trfel 90% town?
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On December 11 2023 07:36 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you're calling Trfel mafia, not the other way around here?
It's not like you're being tunneled by Trfel DP, is it?
Now i don't know why you think Trfel is mafia, where did he lie, or did any of those dubious things that might make them mafia? Bullet points please.
Also look at what HF did:
- rayn is scum because palmar - rayn posts
- palmar didnt post when hf voted This isn't even correct lol. DP/trfel plz just sum up your points on each other into a couple of bullet points and then move on to anyone else please. Just arguing amongst yourselves at this point and I can't piece together any of it.
I already did this multiple times
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On December 11 2023 07:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuck, why cant they get it?
someone help?
I really tried to see it but I don't get it either.
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On December 11 2023 07:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuck, why cant they get it?
someone help?
OK I get it. I'm not sure it makes him mafia though.
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On December 11 2023 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:40 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2023 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2023 07:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn before you go. Is koshi mafia or town if you had to choose. mafia I don’t see the point in talking about this yet. Of course he plays anti-town. In 24h if he plays the same still it’s more interesting. As he will be playing against his wincon if town which is just mega shitty and deserves a policy lynch yeah but you know he was asking, and if i dont answer it's all DP going full shit on rayn for some shit like you didnt give a shit about koshi when you hsould have, i dont have time for that. thanks
I laughed but also felt guilty.
My bad 
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I have no idea what Koshi actually thinks and he can post pretty much whatever he wants and have plausible deniability.
I can see why he wants to do this.
I think we should lynch him for it TBH.
Doesn't hurt that its closer to his scum meta than his town meta based on an incredibly large sample size of 3 games or something.
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Slam is beast mode here WTF.
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On December 11 2023 07:52 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:49 Alakaslam wrote:On December 11 2023 07:48 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2023 07:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Had it not already stoppedㅡ are tfel and dp this slow to make post? Can't be, as DP has been posting about ㅡnot thatㅡ since page 24 Still don’t understand, but I was catching up a bunch of pages and it was a lot of DP Trfel. Which I’ve still not talked about. So I still don’t know what’s going on tbh Good point. That was directed more broadly too, But why didn't you mention Hijole it is not wifom even if a mistake Why didn’t I mention what? I can’t say I’m enjoying this exchange, I’m just getting confused :p
Careful marv.
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On December 11 2023 07:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 07:53 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 07:52 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2023 07:49 Alakaslam wrote:On December 11 2023 07:48 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2023 07:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Had it not already stoppedㅡ are tfel and dp this slow to make post? Can't be, as DP has been posting about ㅡnot thatㅡ since page 24 Still don’t understand, but I was catching up a bunch of pages and it was a lot of DP Trfel. Which I’ve still not talked about. So I still don’t know what’s going on tbh Good point. That was directed more broadly too, But why didn't you mention Hijole it is not wifom even if a mistake Why didn’t I mention what? I can’t say I’m enjoying this exchange, I’m just getting confused :p Careful marv. ?????
Do you actually not understand?
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I'd like to see what holyflare has to say, I don't really agree with rayn that he is obs mafia for the slip up he had, but I tend to think it is a good idea to listen to rayn when he feels strongly about things.
I'd really like to lynch trfel, but I can see that is not gonna happen today, so I will just take solace in saying 'i told you so' at the end of the game.
I think Slam is 100% town.
I think rayn is town
I thought marv was town until recently but I think slam picked up some good stuff, so maybe not so much anymore.
the rest is a quagmire.
Not sure about Koshi, I think I see glimpses of smart town koshi in the mess somewhere.
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On December 11 2023 08:05 Holyflare wrote:
My thinking is we should just vote koshi and force him to actually do things instead of pretending to do things and waiting 24 hours.
I agree with that.
##Vote: Koshi
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On December 11 2023 08:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 08:05 DarthPunk wrote:
I'd like to see what holyflare has to say, I don't really agree with rayn that he is obs mafia for the slip up he had, but I tend to think it is a good idea to listen to rayn when he feels strongly about things.
I'd really like to lynch trfel, but I can see that is not gonna happen today, so I will just take solace in saying 'i told you so' at the end of the game.
I think Slam is 100% town.
I think rayn is town
I thought marv was town until recently but I think slam picked up some good stuff, so maybe not so much anymore.
the rest is a quagmire.
Not sure about Koshi, I think I see glimpses of smart town koshi in the mess somewhere. Don’t understand how you can possibly think it shifts the needle on my alignment, DP
I'll tell you after the game if you want. Or if I try to lynch you, but we aren't in that territory atm.
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On December 11 2023 08:11 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 08:08 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2023 08:05 DarthPunk wrote:
I'd like to see what holyflare has to say, I don't really agree with rayn that he is obs mafia for the slip up he had, but I tend to think it is a good idea to listen to rayn when he feels strongly about things.
I'd really like to lynch trfel, but I can see that is not gonna happen today, so I will just take solace in saying 'i told you so' at the end of the game.
I think Slam is 100% town.
I think rayn is town
I thought marv was town until recently but I think slam picked up some good stuff, so maybe not so much anymore.
the rest is a quagmire.
Not sure about Koshi, I think I see glimpses of smart town koshi in the mess somewhere. Don’t understand how you can possibly think it shifts the needle on my alignment, DP I'll tell you after the game if you want. Or if I try to lynch you, but we aren't in that territory atm.
To be clear, you are in my top 3 town list, so it's not that bad, there was just enough in it to move you back out of the 99% club.
Can you tell me what you think of HF and Palmar right now?
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On December 11 2023 08:24 Alakaslam wrote:Leaning toward a hard yes but can't give a hard yes yet. He is no fool, but he can fool...
Any other reads?>
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