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D1 is when the mafia posts a lot of fake stuff and given DPs and Trfels word count which screams 'don't murder me cuz I'm doing more than everyone else' while not taking the thread into any meaningful direction I think that's a good combination.
Previously though I wasn't sure about the likelihood of mafia being among the first in the thread and considered removing Sandro + Trfel but that's wifom anyway.
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On December 11 2023 22:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 22:25 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:18 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:16 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:14 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:06 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:04 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:00 Vivax wrote:
It's hard to explain but town DP usually glows intensely and is very conscious about steering the thread to where he wants to (which usually isn't a bad direction), here he's more of a bystander who croaks at everything, tone-wise. The way he treated me I find his vote not being on me scummy and out of character.
Holyflare always plays pro-scum no matter the alignment so him hopping onto my wagon with Trfel is NAI at best.
Just got up to rant and give a few unripe thoughts. But having a wagon on myself is helpful in that I know it has to be at least partially mafia driven. What exactly is scummy about my vote not being on you, considering: A.) it was B.) the massive push i made on marv and C.) what do you mean by the way I treated you? When Palmar initiated the wagon yesterday you were keen on burying me even when I was adressing DMB for example (you defended her post instead). It's something you do on a level of confidence that doesn't match you just casually switching to marv. Even a look at the votecount made me sus of you. I don't think I 'casually' switched to marv, the marv stuff was bothering me for a while. I also think you are mafia FWIW. Particularly after this dramatic entrance. It's not me you have to tell that to. It's a shit wagon on the wrong player  This is where you can already start judging who jumps on it. Palmar is probably town in this case. It's the bottom feeders latching to it that are more interesting. You are saying that your wagon is shit and on the wrong player? Who do you think is the right player then? Gut and purely from gamestate I'd say DP, Sandro, Trfel are the mafia (lots of unproductive verbosity from two while Sandro makes sense from a more frozen perspective). In this context your unvote makes sense cause you don't want all three on a wagon. HF, Chezinu would be policy lynches. You think the world is that mafia went after mafia who OMGUSed back onto their mafia partner, just for the 3rd mafia partner to pick one of the mafia partners to start tunelling? What on earth
It's a fake tunnel from DP.
And why not? It's just as likely as any other scenario.
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There's nothing exonerating Sandro in his filter.
It's mostly just generic reasons to call me mafia and he can't even find the text pieces to prove what he's saying. I've been far from a blend-in playstyle.
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On December 11 2023 10:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
Why is Palmar so confident about his opinion on who is scum. It´s D1 and this dude things he can just read everybody and knows thats scum. Is he like god of this game or why i nobody suspect about his conidence here?
This post which I found townie initially could imply Palmar + DMB down the line.
It's unusual because she doesn't mind shading Palmar and made this post in the process of sheeping him.
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##Vote: Palmar
First vote on mafia probably.
All combinations have Sandro in them though.
DP + Trfel + Sandro for the more tinfoily world
and Palmar + DMB + Sandro for the actual safe scumplay because there's nothing in Palmar's filter not making me thing that his read on Sandro is a bus at best and fake on town at worst.
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First vote on mafia probably.
Aside from Sandro who everyone scumreads but nobody votes.
I'm just supposed to be a consolation prize for the scum team or something because Palmar forgot how to scum.
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On December 11 2023 23:26 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 23:22 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Palmar
First vote on mafia probably.
All combinations have Sandro in them though.
DP + Trfel + Sandro for the more tinfoily world
and Palmar + DMB + Sandro for the actual safe scumplay because there's nothing in Palmar's filter not making me thing that his read on Sandro is a bus at best and fake on town at worst. Then why aren’t you voting for sandro, if all combinations involve him? It’s obviously the correct play in the world you’re describing.
Because Palmar is more threatening to me and the game in general and has no pressure from anyone else whatsoever.
There's nothing in him that warrants a townread though.
It's just one of those games where it seems like I'm playing against cliques again so it distorts the scumhunting.
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DP, Palmar, HF play like a clique in that sense. But I'd be surprised if that's the team.
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On December 11 2023 23:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 23:28 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 23:26 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2023 23:22 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Palmar
First vote on mafia probably.
All combinations have Sandro in them though.
DP + Trfel + Sandro for the more tinfoily world
and Palmar + DMB + Sandro for the actual safe scumplay because there's nothing in Palmar's filter not making me thing that his read on Sandro is a bus at best and fake on town at worst. Then why aren’t you voting for sandro, if all combinations involve him? It’s obviously the correct play in the world you’re describing. Because Palmar is more threatening to me and the game in general and has no pressure from anyone else whatsoever. There's nothing in him that warrants a townread though. It's just one of those games where it seems like I'm playing against cliques again so it distorts the scumhunting. But it makes no sense as your vote is very unlikely to get him lynched and therefore wasted, so surely you should be voting for the person that a) you have a chance of getting lynched today and b) is in all your scumteams…
I don't care, call it omgus. But I don't bother against cliques anyway. I believe there'd be people voting me independently of my alignment and that's the sign you should just reduce effort to a minimum because it makes it impossible to take anything seriously anyway.
Apparently it doesn't matter what you write when you got a diva with a flock of lickspittlers posting a vote with zero arguments.
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On December 11 2023 23:50 marvellosity wrote:
The argument is that your posts are super boring and he wasn’t the first to make it. (Eg me)
Counterpoint: You actually read them
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And another counterpoint: I get to call all of Sandro, DMB and Palmar mafia first
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On December 11 2023 23:52 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 22:47 Vivax wrote:
There's nothing exonerating Sandro in his filter.
It's mostly just generic reasons to call me mafia and he can't even find the text pieces to prove what he's saying. I've been far from a blend-in playstyle. This post here also shows a mafia mindset, not arguing against the substance of what I'm saying, which is that his first post he did not read the thread and tried to reach a conclusion about my alignment, but instead he followed thread sentiment and quoted I few things from my post to appear to be contributing. In the post above he dismisses it as generic and quibbles about me not finding text pieces, which is classic mafia sentiment for "you are accusing me for the wrong reasons"
You don't have any holistic view of the game at all you just have a tunnel going on me that someone else conveniently put into place for you.
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On December 11 2023 05:23 sandroba wrote:
marv and holyflare not very impressive atm. Palmar is normal I guess
You can't call these reads
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On December 12 2023 00:25 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 23:56 sandroba wrote:
@palmar not sure why you are including me in your scum teams either That'd be because you're mafia
... that you're attempting to save in a only so slightly impressive fashion.
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Fake everything tbh.
Town will give Palmar a little morsel of me before they all go into the pit or something.
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To not hurt his illusions of grandeur
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Methinks someone tampered with DPs supersoldier vat he usually sleeps in and attached a vial of tranquilizer to it otherwise I don't see why he plays town like this if he even is.
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I'm probably being lynched under accusation that I'm boring precisely because you're afraid that I will stop to be that and your soft grandpa hearts couldn't be able to handle that.
I need an avenue to be entertaining, you're making the atmosphere austere and unpleasant (looking at DP and Palmar mostly).
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On December 12 2023 00:39 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 22:16 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:14 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:06 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:04 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:00 Vivax wrote:
It's hard to explain but town DP usually glows intensely and is very conscious about steering the thread to where he wants to (which usually isn't a bad direction), here he's more of a bystander who croaks at everything, tone-wise. The way he treated me I find his vote not being on me scummy and out of character.
Holyflare always plays pro-scum no matter the alignment so him hopping onto my wagon with Trfel is NAI at best.
Just got up to rant and give a few unripe thoughts. But having a wagon on myself is helpful in that I know it has to be at least partially mafia driven. What exactly is scummy about my vote not being on you, considering: A.) it was B.) the massive push i made on marv and C.) what do you mean by the way I treated you? When Palmar initiated the wagon yesterday you were keen on burying me even when I was adressing DMB for example (you defended her post instead). It's something you do on a level of confidence that doesn't match you just casually switching to marv. Even a look at the votecount made me sus of you. I don't think I 'casually' switched to marv, the marv stuff was bothering me for a while. I also think you are mafia FWIW. Particularly after this dramatic entrance. It's not me you have to tell that to. It's a shit wagon on the wrong player This is where you can already start judging who jumps on it. Palmar is probably town in this case. It's the bottom feeders latching to it that are more interesting. Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 23:22 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Palmar
First vote on mafia probably.
All combinations have Sandro in them though.
DP + Trfel + Sandro for the more tinfoily world
and Palmar + DMB + Sandro for the actual safe scumplay because there's nothing in Palmar's filter not making me thing that his read on Sandro is a bus at best and fake on town at worst. Vivax, what gives?
In this dynamic, the wagon initiator is more frequently town in my experience. I banished that thought cause I think Sandro is inifinitely more scummy and Palmar at this point is just a malevolent push.
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On December 12 2023 00:56 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 00:53 Vivax wrote:On December 12 2023 00:39 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 22:16 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:14 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:06 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:04 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:00 Vivax wrote:
It's hard to explain but town DP usually glows intensely and is very conscious about steering the thread to where he wants to (which usually isn't a bad direction), here he's more of a bystander who croaks at everything, tone-wise. The way he treated me I find his vote not being on me scummy and out of character.
Holyflare always plays pro-scum no matter the alignment so him hopping onto my wagon with Trfel is NAI at best.
Just got up to rant and give a few unripe thoughts. But having a wagon on myself is helpful in that I know it has to be at least partially mafia driven. What exactly is scummy about my vote not being on you, considering: A.) it was B.) the massive push i made on marv and C.) what do you mean by the way I treated you? When Palmar initiated the wagon yesterday you were keen on burying me even when I was adressing DMB for example (you defended her post instead). It's something you do on a level of confidence that doesn't match you just casually switching to marv. Even a look at the votecount made me sus of you. I don't think I 'casually' switched to marv, the marv stuff was bothering me for a while. I also think you are mafia FWIW. Particularly after this dramatic entrance. It's not me you have to tell that to. It's a shit wagon on the wrong player This is where you can already start judging who jumps on it. Palmar is probably town in this case. It's the bottom feeders latching to it that are more interesting. On December 11 2023 23:22 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Palmar
First vote on mafia probably.
All combinations have Sandro in them though.
DP + Trfel + Sandro for the more tinfoily world
and Palmar + DMB + Sandro for the actual safe scumplay because there's nothing in Palmar's filter not making me thing that his read on Sandro is a bus at best and fake on town at worst. Vivax, what gives? In this dynamic, the wagon initiator is more frequently town in my experience. I banished that thought cause I think Sandro is inifinitely more scummy and Palmar at this point is just a malevolent push. So you're voting for Palmar but you don't even think he is mafia? Fair enough, I suppose. Do we still do baby seals around here?
I think he is mafia. I just explained to you why my opinion had a change. That doesn't make anyone mafia.
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