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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 14:24 GMT
#3248
On December 20 2023 23:19 sandroba wrote:
We can talk about if it's you, Trfel, or Slam with DMB after we lynch the clear mafia today.
Not spilling the beans on what I think about that right now

Of course you think like that because you're mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 14:26 GMT
#3251
On December 20 2023 23:24 sandroba wrote:
It's unreasonable to hold these 2 thoughts at the same time. Either HFis 100% blue who I'll rather get lynched in his place, or he could be mafia.

That's not what she said though. If it was she would vote for herself.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 14:27 GMT
#3253
Well i hope you turn out to be mafia here, sandroba.
Otherwise i think we're 100% losing this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 14:27 GMT
#3254
On December 20 2023 23:27 sandroba wrote:
It's pretty obvious to me that you don't seem to have any doubts about DMB. Slam came in and had some doubts, you seem pretty dead set on saying dmb is town

yes.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 14:28 GMT
#3255
Either i am stupid as fuck or i am right, but that's what i am going to be with my vote today.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 14:30 GMT
#3257
On December 20 2023 23:29 sandroba wrote:
I'm obviously not mafia. It's completely unreasonable that you wouldn't have a strong town read on me and would have one on dmb

You are not obviously not mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 14:32 GMT
#3258
How about, if my case on Trfel is just all wrong, you comment on what's wrong about it and why he is town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 14:55 GMT
#3260
Oh he masoned you...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 14:56 GMT
#3263
Why are people saying they are lynching DMB because "if we lose to someone else i am okay with it"?
It's very fucking shitty and doesn't make anyone mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 14:57 GMT
#3264
On December 20 2023 23:55 sandroba wrote:
What's going to happen most likely is that we will lynch DMB today, I'll get killed during the night and Palmar and Slam will lose the game for town tomorrow by lynching Trfel, which is sad but beyond my control at that point

Okay so you don't think Tfel is mafia, i gathered that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 14:59 GMT
#3265
On December 20 2023 23:55 sandroba wrote:
What's going to happen most likely is that we will lynch DMB today, I'll get killed during the night and Palmar and Slam will lose the game for town tomorrow by lynching Trfel, which is sad but beyond my control at that point

So you think i am mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 15:01 GMT
#3268
Okay that doesn't surprise me. Then i guess i have to sell my case to Palmar.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 15:02 GMT
#3269
Palmar:
On December 20 2023 23:49 sandroba wrote:
It has crossed my mind that it could be palmar + trfel initially, but if that is the case they played an absolutely stellar scum game and I would be happy to lose to them.
If it's you, you played a very strong scum game, at some times I read you townie, but at some times you did things wihch I believe had motivated reasoning. DMB rellied on the newbie card, which I guess is fair but I would be extremelly mad losing to.
Slam played super well, rather lose to him than to you, but I'm open to reassessing that after dmb flips mafia.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 15:03 GMT
#3270
##unvote
##vote sandroba
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 15:09 GMT
#3271
Also i will never ever believe anyone who is saying anyone as mafia benefits from killing anyone anyone else than marv N3.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 15:23 GMT
#3272
On December 20 2023 23:49 sandroba wrote:
I spent like 2 hours reading Trfel's filter yesterday, reading every spoiler and went into the scum game of Trfel marv linked, I'm fairly confident he is town. Your case shows you haven't done the same as me, you are misrpresenting some aspects, other arguments you make don't even show any mafia motivation.
What I see from Trfel is that he actually made a lot of very well thought out posts and did try to make arguments to lynch his scum reads (Chezinu, later DMB), but they were mostly ignored and fell in deaf ears since town was busy fighting each other. I recommend everyone to actually take the time and read his whole filter including spoilers, especially after day 2.

Yet he always ended up in "idk" stances. Not on Chezinu, but at the time there was no reason to believe Chezinu is gonna get lynched and if it would happen, Trfel would look good on it, but it still was out of his hands. Let's be honest there was no good case to be made on Chezinu!!! Same with DMB, only now, when were in MYLO, he has some ACTUAL "yeah let's lynch 100% thoughts" on someone, why didn't he have those D3?

Another thing that happened is that after he masoned me we briefly discussed the game before I had to go to bed. We said we would talk again the following day and have another back and forth.
In between the time over the spam of 1.5 hours Trfel was posting his thoughts in the chat going over dmb filter while I was sleeping. To me that is extremely unreasonable that a mafia would ever be doing that with absolutely no expectation that they needed to do that.
Why would a mafia be putting in work reading filters and posting about it in chat, while there was absolutely no expectation in my part of him doing so? I don't think it's reasonable to assume any mafia would think I would town read for that.

What town reasoning there is for him to tell his read on DMB in mason chat rather than in thread? What town reasoning do you have for that? Can you paraphrase the whole chat in the thread, because i don't see any reasoning for a town player to discuss scum reads in private with another player.

It has crossed my mind that it could be palmar + trfel initially, but if that is the case they played an absolutely stellar scum game and I would be happy to lose to them.
If it's you, you played a very strong scum game, at some times I read you townie, but at some times you did things wihch I believe had motivated reasoning. DMB rellied on the newbie card, which I guess is fair but I would be extremelly mad losing to.
Slam played super well, rather lose to him than to you, but I'm open to reassessing that after dmb flips mafia.

scummmyyyyyyyy.... rather lose to these people than not to these people to back up a scumread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 15:41 GMT
#3273
sandroba definitely benefited the most from not killing marv N2 (or Palmar).
However in MYLO it's all hands on deck, no bullshit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 15:43 GMT
#3274
On December 20 2023 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How about, if my case on Trfel is just all wrong, you comment on what's wrong about it and why he is town?

I rephrase my question, why is my case wrong?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 15:44 GMT
#3275
Everyone should be aware that mafia can do townie things in this game, especially sandroba should be aware of this, since he is a vet.

Can someone fucking argue why scummy stuff isn't scummy, other than me?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 15:48 GMT
#3276
I was trying to argue why Trfel is mafia. I was trying to argue why DMB is town.
I was trying to argue why DMB is town also by attacking the arguments made towards her.
Now i wouldn't normally care, as it's not my job to defend other people, but it is MYLO, and i think we are lynching town, so i do care.

sandroba was trying to argue why Trfel is town, based on something that was not said. I specifically asked him to comment on my case, he did something else. sandroba should be better than that. Mafia right there boys and girls.
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