We can talk about if it's you, Trfel, or Slam with DMB after we lynch the clear mafia today.
Not spilling the beans on what I think about that right now

sandroba

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December 20 2023 14:21 GMT

#3246

On December 20 2023 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like in contrary i can ask you do you think DMB is more likely to play crazy as mafia when she is crazy as town, or would Trfel play wishy-washy on everything ever posted, as he is wishy-washy as town?

Look at the HF interaction, she thought HF could be mafia. So she in fact did not think what she acted like she did when she made the martyr post.

sandroba

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December 20 2023 14:24 GMT

#3249

It's unreasonable to hold these 2 thoughts at the same time. Either HFis 100% blue who I'll rather get lynched in his place, or he could be mafia.

sandroba

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December 20 2023 14:25 GMT

#3250

On December 20 2023 23:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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Of course you think like that because you're mafia.

I'll let everyone be the judge of that

sandroba

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December 20 2023 14:27 GMT

#3252

It's pretty obvious to me that you don't seem to have any doubts about DMB. Slam came in and had some doubts, you seem pretty dead set on saying dmb is town

sandroba

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December 20 2023 14:29 GMT

#3256

I'm obviously not mafia. It's completely unreasonable that you wouldn't have a strong town read on me and would have one on dmb

sandroba

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December 20 2023 14:49 GMT

#3259

I spent like 2 hours reading Trfel's filter yesterday, reading every spoiler and went into the scum game of Trfel marv linked, I'm fairly confident he is town. Your case shows you haven't done the same as me, you are misrpresenting some aspects, other arguments you make don't even show any mafia motivation.
What I see from Trfel is that he actually made a lot of very well thought out posts and did try to make arguments to lynch his scum reads (Chezinu, later DMB), but they were mostly ignored and fell in deaf ears since town was busy fighting each other. I recommend everyone to actually take the time and read his whole filter including spoilers, especially after day 2.

Another thing that happened is that after he masoned me we briefly discussed the game before I had to go to bed. We said we would talk again the following day and have another back and forth.
In between the time over the spam of 1.5 hours Trfel was posting his thoughts in the chat going over dmb filter while I was sleeping. To me that is extremely unreasonable that a mafia would ever be doing that with absolutely no expectation that they needed to do that.
Why would a mafia be putting in work reading filters and posting about it in chat, while there was absolutely no expectation in my part of him doing so? I don't think it's reasonable to assume any mafia would think I would town read for that.

It has crossed my mind that it could be palmar + trfel initially, but if that is the case they played an absolutely stellar scum game and I would be happy to lose to them.
If it's you, you played a very strong scum game, at some times I read you townie, but at some times you did things wihch I believe had motivated reasoning. DMB rellied on the newbie card, which I guess is fair but I would be extremelly mad losing to.
Slam played super well, rather lose to him than to you, but I'm open to reassessing that after dmb flips mafia.

sandroba

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December 20 2023 14:55 GMT

#3261

What's going to happen most likely is that we will lynch DMB today, I'll get killed during the night and Palmar and Slam will lose the game for town tomorrow by lynching Trfel, which is sad but beyond my control at that point

sandroba

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December 20 2023 14:56 GMT

#3262

On December 20 2023 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh he masoned you...

You aren't reading...

sandroba

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December 20 2023 14:59 GMT

#3266

On December 20 2023 23:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why are people saying they are lynching DMB because "if we lose to someone else i am okay with it"?
It's very fucking shitty and doesn't make anyone mafia.

What we are saying is that DMB is obvious mafia and would be stupid to lose to her

sandroba

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December 20 2023 14:59 GMT

#3267

On December 20 2023 23:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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So you think i am mafia?

Yes, I'm pretty confident

sandroba

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December 20 2023 15:58 GMT

#3279

Why can't Trfel be bussing DMB rayn? Why are you so stuck in never considering DMB for mafia, while everyone else is fair game?

sandroba

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December 20 2023 16:02 GMT

#3280

You are like defending her as newbie town while not even considering what she would do as scum this game. All her game makes a lot more sense as scum than town. The HF being possible scum and 100% confirmed blue point at the same time which I pointed out to her while she was posting here, she had no response to, she vanished from the thread for hours, came back and still not response addressing that.

sandroba

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December 20 2023 16:14 GMT

#3287

On the Vivax stuff: Do you think if DMB is mafia she never feels pressure to do that? Vivax is likely on the same place as her fighting for his life, knows she is only and she is not saying anything. If she is mafia don't you think she would admit Vivax feels townie, fearing Vivax would just call her out as scum?
In fact Vivax did right before DMB unvoted her:

On December 12 2023 11:53 Vivax wrote:
Tinfoil world is Palmar/DMB/X

2nd point about HF: If her mind is racing to HFmight be scum, it's an act when she says: "Lynch me instead of HF, he is blue, I thought so since N2". It's scummy to misrepresent your feelings in order to appear townie or clueless

sandroba

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December 20 2023 16:15 GMT

#3288

"knows she is only" in that phrase should be online