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On December 19 2023 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 05:43 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
which of that happened after i voted? or after trfel voted?
i am not talking about stuff before that. I don't get it, why is this relevant? I only posted while I was online and then again after I came online again after eod because we all post when we can post. you are accusing me of posting on certain times or not posting on certain times, i have tried to post on time that matter, you throw shit on me for that. and then you don't do anything on the lynch, and appear literally on the deadline to shit on people. what am i supposed to think?
I accused you of mostly trying to placate people when you do post. Saying that I didn't do shit on the lynch is amazing, I think I did the most out of everyone here to figure out the game yesterday with the limited time I did have
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On December 19 2023 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 06:11 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 19 2023 06:06 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Trfel's vote of HF is suspicious for me, i can see how he comes to that conclusion but like he doesn't want to come to that conclusion and everything before and after that sounds like he should be voting for DMB and trying to make people vote for DMB. On December 18 2023 12:34 Trfel wrote:
]I wanted to lynch die_meatbaby but was unable to do so. Tried to make the best of bad options and failed. not sure if i believe this and i am not sure why sandroba believes this. I can possibly buy it being scummy if Palmar is scum, but if only Trfel is scum why doesn't he leave his vote on DMB? Why does he try to make an educated guess here on who is more likely mafia between the options available? Because he is not contributing to the lynch, and that's even worse. I mean if he doesn't make a choice between Palmar/HF, how does that look on him? Do you think he made the choice he should have? I think he looks worse from swapping onto the townie who is about to get lynched than to leaving his vote on dmb. Unless palmar is mafia, which you could argue he is doing to save palmar so like his vote looks bad in all of the cases? :D
Are you trying to understand or no? Yes, it will look bad if he swaps on the townie that is about to get lynched. As mafia you know that and you refrain from doing it, unless doing it is in your direct interest aka if palmar is scum with him and will be lynched otherwise
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On December 19 2023 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 06:14 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 19 2023 05:43 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
which of that happened after i voted? or after trfel voted?
i am not talking about stuff before that. I don't get it, why is this relevant? I only posted while I was online and then again after I came online again after eod because we all post when we can post. you are accusing me of posting on certain times or not posting on certain times, i have tried to post on time that matter, you throw shit on me for that. and then you don't do anything on the lynch, and appear literally on the deadline to shit on people. what am i supposed to think? I accused you of mostly trying to placate people when you do post. Saying that I didn't do shit on the lynch is amazing, I think I did the most out of everyone here to figure out the game yesterday with the limited time I did have I don't argue against that sentiment, but if HF and Palmar are both town then again you didn't. It's not exactly townie in my opinion to "do stuff" when the stuff is towards lynching a townie or a townie or a townie... I know i am wrong, in case Palmar in case is mafia, but on surface level that's not a really good argument in my mind, itä very easy to do stuff as mafia when your own shit is not on the line.
If I'm town I don't actually know who the mafia is huh? It's the whole purpose of the game? This line of questioning is quite stupid and you can say that 10x more about yourself or any other player
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On December 19 2023 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And if Palmar is town, why does Trfel not do it?
If Trfel is mafia and Palmar town Trfel doesn't need to do anything, he has no reason for sticking his neck out. Of course he can do it for w/e reason, but it's not something I think mafia would be doing.
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Maybe it's trfel dmb. Probably going to lynch palmar anyway tomorrow and lose
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Tomorrow we prob sleep actually
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Possible Marv tracked Palmar at some point and didn't see Palmar visit anyone. My heart says palmar, my head says sleep. Got Masoned by Trfel today, let's see if I can learn something
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On December 19 2023 17:54 Palmar wrote:
We can't no lynch.
Mafia can just plop down 1 vote on the deadline and win the game.
Can you explain this in more detail?
I really think we benefit from one extra flip. Probably Slam gets killed here and we eliminate the chance of losing to a slam team?
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On December 19 2023 18:06 Palmar wrote:
And you know, at the moment we just lynch dmb.
Agree with this. I'm just going to admit it, I'm not lynching Palmar this game. If he is mafia he has played a good game.
I still have this doubt about what Slam said to HF in the QT that made him say to never lynch Slam, which is why I wanted to sleep.
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The thing about DMB is that she is overplaying the crazy act. Every time suspicion on her begins to climb, she pops in, starts acting crazy, misunderstanding posts, calling everyone mafia with no follow up, she is just all over the place.
Some of the time I must admit it just looks like a bad townie. But looking at it over the spam of the game I think it's very likely this is just an act, she realized at some point that this works and is just repeating this over and over.
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I'm either killing DMB or sleeping today.
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If Palmar was mafia I would be dead and not marv. If mafia wanted to blue hunt I think they prob kill slam, since based on my logic for blue palmar I couldn't be blue either. So Palmar I think could only be mafia with Slam. And that means HF is wrong about Slam and Marv wrong about Palmar. If that's the case here congrats to both.
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Plopping my vote down now so a tie doesn't fuck us over. We can discuss sleep, but this way this is guaranteed
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On December 19 2023 17:54 Palmar wrote:
We can't no lynch.
Mafia can just plop down 1 vote on the deadline and win the game.
Are you saying if there is 4 no lynch votes and 2 votes on someone, someone gets lynched? I don't think that's how it works.
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On December 20 2023 00:58 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 23:04 sandroba wrote:
The thing about DMB is that she is overplaying the crazy act. Every time suspicion on her begins to climb, she pops in, starts acting crazy, misunderstanding posts, calling everyone mafia with no follow up, she is just all over the place.
Some of the time I must admit it just looks like a bad townie. But looking at it over the spam of the game I think it's very likely this is just an act, she realized at some point that this works and is just repeating this over and over. What crazy act? I tried to stop the HF lynch. I said rather kill me then HF. The hell should I do that as scum. Yes I was kinda wrong with his alignment but at least I knew he was not scum. And also yes Palmar looking kinda Town right now, but at this point we are not allowed to make another misslynch. Help me to find the real scum instead of voting me because you all think I have a bad Town game. Did anybody read my older games from those who play the first time with me? You will find all games I ever played here on TL.
How did you know he was not scum? You've been calling people scum randomly, how could you be so sure on HF?
Claiming kill me because HF is blue, or even believing HF blue claim is crazy as town as well. It looks like either yourself or some other mafia told you to act crazy / dumb and people would spare you.
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I did skim through a couple of games you played town. Here is your last game filter https://tl.net/forum/mafia/615573-quarterly-mafia-1-part-2?user=die_meatbaby for everybody else to look at.
You are a lot less all over that place in that game, it's very different from this one.
This HF thing alone is enough for me to call an act, compared to the other reads you have this game this one is supremely outlandish.
On the game I posted you were trying to form a concise view of who is mafia and who isn't and trying to get that across. Here you are all over the place not even trying to solve the game. Just acting as paranoid as you can, misinterpreting very straight forward posts, tunnelling palmar then not really going after him. It all screams like Chez or whoever, or you yourself came up with the idea to just go crazy in the thread.
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On December 20 2023 01:24 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2023 01:07 sandroba wrote:On December 20 2023 00:58 die_meatbaby wrote:On December 19 2023 23:04 sandroba wrote:
The thing about DMB is that she is overplaying the crazy act. Every time suspicion on her begins to climb, she pops in, starts acting crazy, misunderstanding posts, calling everyone mafia with no follow up, she is just all over the place.
Some of the time I must admit it just looks like a bad townie. But looking at it over the spam of the game I think it's very likely this is just an act, she realized at some point that this works and is just repeating this over and over. What crazy act? I tried to stop the HF lynch. I said rather kill me then HF. The hell should I do that as scum. Yes I was kinda wrong with his alignment but at least I knew he was not scum. And also yes Palmar looking kinda Town right now, but at this point we are not allowed to make another misslynch. Help me to find the real scum instead of voting me because you all think I have a bad Town game. Did anybody read my older games from those who play the first time with me? You will find all games I ever played here on TL. How did you know he was not scum? You've been calling people scum randomly, how could you be so sure on HF? Claiming kill me because HF is blue, or even believing HF blue claim is crazy as town as well. It looks like either yourself or some other mafia told you to act crazy / dumb and people would spare you. I explained why I called people scum. Look at my Filter I compared palmar with his old scumplays. I explained why Trfel is scummy for me. I explained why I called people scum here. I just use other methods and maybe I see the game in other eyes because it's my 4th game and I am already bored as well rolling Town all the time. And maybe it was stupid do think HF is blue but as scum I would killed him in the night??? Why would he be alive. Also I will not lynch my bf on the first day if I know he is Town. This misslynch from Vivax breaks my heart because he was happy and excited to play with Palmar again.
You don't seem bored at points in the thread where people are discussing you for a lynch.
"And maybe it was stupid do think HF is blue but as scum I would killed him in the night???"
I don't buy that you think this is a good explanation, surely if you were town you would know that as scum you could be just lying about thinking he is blue? Again this is pretending like you are dumb.
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On December 18 2023 00:35 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 00:25 Holyflare wrote:On December 18 2023 00:16 die_meatbaby wrote:
you guys can tell me I am paranoid about palmar beeing mafia but that it just an insane mafia play right there Why are you pretending like nobody in this game reads palmar as mafia and you're the only one fighting an uphill battle? Why have you never voted palmar? Who is mafia with palmar? There a people NOW who are thinking of him as scum, but not after the first lynch. I was alone with my thoughts there. I never votet on Palmar because it would just be a useless vote. First vote i need to safe vivax. (altough we missed one vote to safe him) Second 10 votes on chez... 1 vote on Palmar will chance the lynch... yeah.. I most likley think it would be Trfel or you! On December 18 2023 04:12 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 04:01 sandroba wrote:On December 18 2023 03:58 Trfel wrote:
I understand what sandroba is saying about the Koshi kill and how that implicates marvellosity and Palmar. However, that just isn't how I am reading the game.
I would very much like to lynch die_meatbaby but if that isn't possible I would lynch Holyflare over Palmar. I can lynch DMB. I won't lynch HF rather lynch me than HF. Better do lose a normal Town then losing a blue one! I will die for Town and i will not care but i will not be with a lynch our hope for a vigi or something else what could help.
I think these 2 posts here Trfel found are the strongest evidence that this is an act and DMB doesn't actually believe what she is saying. Only 4 hours before said HF was likely mafia. But 4 hours later she is telling us she is so sure HF is blue she wants to be lynched in his place. According to her she has been thinking HF is blue since N1, how can the first post ever make sense if that's how she sees it?
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On December 20 2023 01:49 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 23:22 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 17:54 Palmar wrote:
We can't no lynch.
Mafia can just plop down 1 vote on the deadline and win the game. Are you saying if there is 4 no lynch votes and 2 votes on someone, someone gets lynched? I don't think that's how it works. Yeah no I’m probably wrong, no lynch might be a plurality option. If you wanna we can but I kinda don’t care enough to wait.
I'm like 99.999 on dmb, at this point I think it's more risky a bad townie might screw us over if someone sensible dies
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On December 20 2023 03:38 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 23:13 sandroba wrote:
If Palmar was mafia I would be dead and not marv. If mafia wanted to blue hunt I think they prob kill slam, since based on my logic for blue palmar I couldn't be blue either. So Palmar I think could only be mafia with Slam. And that means HF is wrong about Slam and Marv wrong about Palmar. If that's the case here congrats to both. This logic is based on wifom
So far my NK logic has held up.
It seems like I'm the only one that cares about thinking what makes sense for mafia to do in the NK. It's hard to imagine mafia is making their own life a lot more difficult with the sole purpose to confuse me.
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