Winter Warfare Mafia - Page 14

On December 14 2023 03:36 Trfel wrote:
I don't think it's an issue in this case though. I don't think that those differences end up being mafia indicative at all here.

On December 14 2023 03:40 Trfel wrote:
People never think what I am thinking

In all seriousness though, if you guys lynch sandroba then I hope I am wrong. But I'm just not seeing it, so unless something dramatically changes then you won't have my vote.

Why not Chezinu or die_meatbaby?

On December 14 2023 04:12 Trfel wrote:
I'm also starting to wonder about Koshi's alignment since he is just playing so anti-town. What if he rolls mafia, is he going to do all this I-should-be-lynched stuff still? That would really detract from his ability to play the game and improve as mafia, but he'd have to, or it would be really obvious he is mafia? What would it look like if he were mafia and trying to play this way? It just feels really scary to have him as town though.

Chezinu/die_meatbaby/raynpelikoneet I think are more likely still, but yeah. Uneasy feelings.

On December 14 2023 04:06 Trfel wrote:
After reading raynpelikoneet's filter, I actually think he could be mafia.

Lots of posts but minimal presence. Doesn't feel like he is pushing much here compared to how active he has been. Two exceptions: his "catch" on Holyflare not reading (more on this later) and his scumreading Palmar. Look at the way he scumreads Palmar, he isn't very committed to it or upset that no one is listening, he feels largely content to just say "Palmar could be mafia" and then move on with life. This isn't how I am used to raynpelikoneet playing as town, nor is it town motivated.

His "catch" on Holyflare. He's so stubborn about this, but town!raynpelikoneet that I'm used to is more willing to try and see things from other people's perspectives, even on "logic" disagreements. Don't misunderstand, he's still super stubborn, but he won't hold onto things literally forever anymore. The fact that he hasn't let it go, but simultaneously isn't passionately driving it in everyone's face and calling for Holyflare's lynch seems very off. I don't understand how this in-between world exists for town raynpelikoneet.

Then there are little things that probably don't mean much. Part of me wants to think that saying "do you have a vig" to die_meatbaby is a slip but I also don't really believe in slips. His post-d1 lynch apology to Vivax feels more told-you-so than actually apologetic, given that he was scumreading and voting for Vivax before the lynch, and the way it comes off feels wrong. But the main two points are above.

On December 14 2023 05:53 Palmar wrote:

I mean you are pretty basic and forgettable

On December 14 2023 18:44 Holyflare wrote:
Very uneventful day and lots of people not particularly caring who we go on doesn't make me feel much better.

On December 14 2023 18:58 Koshi wrote:

Yes. I have said this clearly all game.
I don't hold him to the same standards as you guys do.
I think I read a decent case which made it plausible that he is under performing. So in that aspect I can see it.

But I think DMB is performing worse than Sandroba (which doesn't make her more mafia)

On December 14 2023 18:58 Holyflare wrote:


Rayn post good, koshi one not that great.

Although not sure it's correct on rayn, I like the sentiment at least. Went to check the last game I played with rayn on here because I felt like there was some other misunderstanding bs but last time he was mafia with me and pointed out something similar he was way more likely to back down on it there. I suppose you could say he's backed down here but it doesn't feel like it's in the same way.

On December 14 2023 19:01 Koshi wrote:

My hearth and head are in a calm place and I am happy with the way I am approaching this game.

On December 14 2023 19:00 Koshi wrote:
Last game of Tfrel. Very long time ago:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia?user=Trfel

On December 14 2023 19:09 Koshi wrote:

I will not waste my vote and put it were I think it needs to be for town.
I was wrong yesterday. Completely.

Today I think DMB is mafia, I think her lists are ridiculous and the fact Palmar is mafia 5/6 times in upper lists makes me suspicious that DMB and Palmar are mafia.

I didn't think sandroba and Tfrel were mafia yesterday. I still don't see it for myself but I can sheeep you because your activity during night was more than enough to trust you.

I think rayn could be mafia but he is not a main suspect.

HF is town
Palmar is town for me but like I said. DMB made me doubt it slightly.
Slam is very town for me. But apparently the mason thing is randomed so I am not sure if that affected me. But I really like how he played so far. He is readable, even though I haven't really tried.

On December 14 2023 19:14 Palmar wrote:
I think we lynch Sandroba, nothing he said in the chat with me has changed my mind all that much.

I'm obviously less certain than I was on day 1. I generally do my best work on day 1.

Truffle looks a lot worse than on day 1. I remember my thoughts being "but at least he's trying" along with the impatience to dump his read into the thread. I can't really say he's trying anymore.

DMB looks marginally worse, but I still feel like the posting tends to lean bad town.

Marv looks a little better, and I really hope this is town marv. There are several warning signs though that I've almost decided to ignore and wait.

Idk about the trolls, chez and slam. I'm just ignoring them for now.

Rayn/HF/Koshi has a mafia, idk who but atm I'm leaning HF. I think it's really scummy that HF thinks I'm town.