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On December 18 2023 02:59 Palmar wrote:
Sandroba and HF are another story. Even if they’re town I probably pissed Sandroba off enough by trolling him in the mason QT so he’s tunneled in. HF thinks highly enough of himself to ignore marv.
But it’s still really annoying that 3 strong players who know marv and I read each other well enough to pretty much make playing mafia against each other a complete pain in the ass, just ignore that knowledge.
Dmb has an excuse, a classic pebkac.
You didn't super piss me off, just somewhat. I just don't think you as town would try so little in there to actually talk about relevant stuff and get a read.
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It felt like you were hiding behind low-effort troll persona to not have to town read me.
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On December 18 2023 03:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 03:07 sandroba wrote:
It felt like you were hiding behind low-effort troll persona to not have to town read me. No, he was trolling you because he was sure you were mafia.
You are just taking that at face value because you thought I was mafia. Palmar never explained why he thought so, even in the QT.
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On December 18 2023 03:22 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 03:21 sandroba wrote:On December 18 2023 03:12 marvellosity wrote:On December 18 2023 03:07 sandroba wrote:
It felt like you were hiding behind low-effort troll persona to not have to town read me. No, he was trolling you because he was sure you were mafia. You are just taking that at face value because you thought I was mafia. Palmar never explained why he thought so, even in the QT. Wait why would I explain to you why I think you’re mafia in private. That’s like the most pointless thing ever.
You didn't do it in the thread either. Plus, even if you do thought so, you didn't know so, so I expect as town you use that opportunity to try to work with me and try to get a better grasp on my alignment. To me it felt like you were trying to pretend you thought I was mafia and were putting on an act, not the kind of self doubt and fear of being wrong we usually see on a townie. That comes off even on the beginning of the convo when you were like. "I fell great" "Things are great, you are being lynched" Doesn't make sense you would talk to me in that sense unless you were putting on a show
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On December 18 2023 03:23 Palmar wrote:
I generally don’t try to convince mafia they’re mafia. I mean it would be hilarious if I pulled it off…
Maybe I’ll try in a future game lol
Again with this charade, unless you are mafia you don't know who the mafia is so you don't convince them of anything, you just talk to people to get a better shot of figuring them out
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To me here are the only a few worlds where Koshi gets killed and Palmar is town:
- Marv + one is mafia - refuse to contemplate this world - even with this the koshi kill is retarded since koshi was TR marv 100%. Prob I wouldn't get killed in this world for the same reason. Why not kill trfle or slam if this is the case?
- Dmb + (?slam) would make sense, since Koshi was dead set on palmar/dmb and had an initial suspicion on DMB which he would probably pursue today.
Teams of Rayn/HF where marv and palmar are town I don't see killing Rayn instead of marv, especially with a flipped doctor
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I meant Koshi in the last sentence
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On December 18 2023 03:59 Palmar wrote:
Again. Your entire read is based on me being a dick.
Maybe take your own advice and go read my other stuff in the game.
Not at all, it's based on you not doing what I think town you would do
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On December 18 2023 03:58 Trfel wrote:
I understand what sandroba is saying about the Koshi kill and how that implicates marvellosity and Palmar. However, that just isn't how I am reading the game.
I would very much like to lynch die_meatbaby but if that isn't possible I would lynch Holyflare over Palmar.
I can lynch DMB. I won't lynch HF
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On December 18 2023 03:59 Trfel wrote:
And yes, I take the risk of hard scumsiding if it's marvellosity and Palmar together. But so be it, I don't know what else to do.
Marv and palmar are not together. Marv would have not switch off me to chezinu yesterday if this was the case
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On December 15 2023 09:45 Palmar wrote:
I still think sandroba is scum. Even if I was mostly trolling him in the QT, I feel like he had a narrative that he wanted to push, an ideal target to land upon and was avoiding trying to give too much other stuff away.
Also, while this is not necessarily a strong scum-tell, it always felt like he was doing the "right thing" in pushing for a lynch he likes. My interactions with him felt like he wasn't annoyed and incredulous enough at being accused of being mafia. He almost "accepted" being called mafia and tried to push for a different lynch.
Now this isn't a scummy thing in itself, a good townie will push for alternative lynches, but the problem is I feel like townies tend to almost always get angry about being called scum when they aren't.
It's largely an emotional read on sandro.
On December 15 2023 09:46 Palmar wrote:
Like if people were genuinely calling me mafia here and trying to vote for me, I'm yelling from the rooftops that they're stupid and bad.
I was pretty angry in thread, not sure how it didn't come across to you. D2 you had very little to no influence in the game and today you are not being angry as you claim you would be.
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On December 18 2023 04:12 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 04:01 sandroba wrote:On December 18 2023 03:58 Trfel wrote:
I understand what sandroba is saying about the Koshi kill and how that implicates marvellosity and Palmar. However, that just isn't how I am reading the game.
I would very much like to lynch die_meatbaby but if that isn't possible I would lynch Holyflare over Palmar. I can lynch DMB. I won't lynch HF rather lynch me than HF. Better do lose a normal Town then losing a blue one! I will die for Town and i will not care but i will not be with a lynch our hope for a vigi or something else what could help.
Are you pretending to believe HF claim N1?
Maybe this is an attempt at scum association?
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I'm debating whether to leave my vote on you or DMB before I go in 30 min, not sure if I'll be able to change it before eod
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On December 18 2023 04:18 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 04:15 sandroba wrote:On December 18 2023 04:12 die_meatbaby wrote:On December 18 2023 04:01 sandroba wrote:On December 18 2023 03:58 Trfel wrote:
I understand what sandroba is saying about the Koshi kill and how that implicates marvellosity and Palmar. However, that just isn't how I am reading the game.
I would very much like to lynch die_meatbaby but if that isn't possible I would lynch Holyflare over Palmar. I can lynch DMB. I won't lynch HF rather lynch me than HF. Better do lose a normal Town then losing a blue one! I will die for Town and i will not care but i will not be with a lynch our hope for a vigi or something else what could help. Are you pretending to believe HF claim N1? Maybe this is an attempt at scum association? yeah i am believing that shit and I don´t know why mafia is not killing him in the night. Thats why this random nightkills just piss me off Also he playes strange but i really hope that i am seeing the right thing here
At the risk of being stupid and believing a scum player pretending to be confused: it's very unlikely an actual vigi feels the need to claim during the night when there can be a mafia rb in the setup and block his shot. What happens is they claim after shooting, or even don't claim at all unless they need to push something.
Still interested in hearing what HF was hoping to accomplish there, as I think it's a stupid play as either alignment.
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On December 14 2023 02:53 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2023 02:48 Trfel wrote:
I'm just going to vote for Chezinu, I think he is just mafia. We had a game in the past where we were town together and talked quite a bit, and a game in the past where we were scum together, in fact I think maybe two games, and his effort and engagement with the game feel very scummy. He's capable of much more as town, we all know this. You shouldn't have to beg him to interact with the game. He's even made plenty of posts, the time is there, the desire to do anything about solving the game is not.
##vote Chezinu
The house of brown has found it time to end your mafia-ness. Scummy
Palmar attacks Trfel for a very good post on Chezinu. Everything Trfel is saying here is true.
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On December 18 2023 04:36 Palmar wrote:
Sandro you owe me an answer to two questions before you go.
Reading your filter currently, didn't get to the Rayn exchange yet. Was there anything else you asked?
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On December 18 2023 04:53 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 04:51 sandroba wrote:On December 18 2023 04:36 Palmar wrote:
Sandro you owe me an answer to two questions before you go. Reading your filter currently, didn't get to the Rayn exchange yet. Was there anything else you asked? Yes. You summarized your read on me as me not doing what you’d expect me to as town, which I find amusing because that’s pretty much exactly the same read as marv has in me but with completely opposite conclusion. Do you think your expectations of me are more reliable than marv’s?
No, I don't. But marv could be having an off game.
I'm taking into account, just struggling to find a coherent alternative that I can buy
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Wow rereading the thread, Trfel was so good D2 he made us all look like trash.
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I want almost resign myself to sheep Trfel and Koshi who are clearly the best town players in this game and just lynch DMB
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My time is up, never got to re-read your rayn exchange, palmar. I'll leave my vote on DMB. I pussied out. Not sure I'll be able to spend time again before the eod.
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