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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 31 2023 00:56 GMT
#1641
Did you just say both wagons could be scum after saying today hasn't been productive
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 31 2023 00:56 GMT
#1642
On August 31 2023 09:55 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 09:52 Vivax wrote:
On August 31 2023 06:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 31 2023 05:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 31 2023 05:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 05:31 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 31 2023 05:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and hi DP and ya I agree his case on you is very awful and you brought up a good point.



What’s up LS?

If you are town I would start posting all your reads.

Not much on my way home and ya I will post my reads when I get home.

DP: Town his fights was pushing the game forward and is actively trying to work with everyone.
math: Mafia I already said why towards Koshi.
Vivax: Can't tell if he changed his meta to posting more as mafia or his skill did decrease regarding his ability to read me because I feel like town Vivax would still try to figure the game out now. Null
Marv: Likely mafia he would not get my alignment wrong if he was town.
DMB: My 3rd biggest townread her reaction to Iamp's claim cements her being town I will argue with whoever thinks she is mafia.
Koshi: Likely mafia his case on DP was very horrendous for the amount of effort he put into it plus he been extra lazy for his own standards.
Iamp: unCCed Vig and had no reason to claim vig if he was mafia. Biggest townread.
TTT: Second biggest townread felt like he been more insightful this game compared to his last scum game plus his stuff towards DP seems very genuine.
JSL: Idk what to think of him but his posting been very all over the place idk if it's confused town or mafia trying to create chaos. Null.


The marv read is pure omgus and the Koshi read is fully based on his own read on DP so rather shallow.

At this rate both wagons could be scum but mathe has that chaos component that doesn't seem intentional and he seems unbothered by having opinions that work against him so LS is my clear preference.


But LS always looks like scum


Quite the opposite.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 31 2023 00:58 GMT
#1643
On August 31 2023 09:56 iamperfection wrote:
Did you just say both wagons could be scum after saying today hasn't been productive


Hung up on details while ignoring the big picture aren't we?

I said that I see more points in favour of town mathe but the wagon behaviour and LS' own read on him suggests that as scum they'd opt for a double bus scenario (which I didn't spell out tbh)
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 31 2023 00:59 GMT
#1644
Is a double bus strategy where mafia intentionally makes both lynches mafia? If so that's hilarious I have to try it one day. Oh I've just worked it out it's bussing each other nvm.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 31 2023 01:01 GMT
#1645
On August 31 2023 09:59 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Is a double bus strategy where mafia intentionally makes both lynches mafia? If so that's hilarious I have to try it one day. Oh I've just worked it out it's bussing each other nvm.


LS could have tried to push for a Koshi wagon for example with support from DP and even others but right now it might as well be a competition about two mafia on who dies first. Which it kinda looks like.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 31 2023 01:01 GMT
#1646
The marv scumread is odd though
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 31 2023 01:02 GMT
#1647
competition between two mafia
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 31 2023 01:03 GMT
#1648
On August 31 2023 10:01 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 09:59 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Is a double bus strategy where mafia intentionally makes both lynches mafia? If so that's hilarious I have to try it one day. Oh I've just worked it out it's bussing each other nvm.


LS could have tried to push for a Koshi wagon for example with support from DP and even others but right now it might as well be a competition about two mafia on who dies first. Which it kinda looks like.


Naw I recon math and ls are never together. That's far too dumb a scenario even for me. Day two there has to be enough mafia pull to at least avoid one being mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 31 2023 01:07 GMT
#1649
On August 31 2023 10:03 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 10:01 Vivax wrote:
On August 31 2023 09:59 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Is a double bus strategy where mafia intentionally makes both lynches mafia? If so that's hilarious I have to try it one day. Oh I've just worked it out it's bussing each other nvm.


LS could have tried to push for a Koshi wagon for example with support from DP and even others but right now it might as well be a competition about two mafia on who dies first. Which it kinda looks like.


Naw I recon math and ls are never together. That's far too dumb a scenario even for me. Day two there has to be enough mafia pull to at least avoid one being mafia.


The only one who I think could be mafia playing tug-o-war well today is iamperfection but he's a claimed vig so scratch that.

And Koshi. As mafia he knows he can't have DP around when DP is town and also after the rayn kill so he has to go full frontal.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 31 2023 01:08 GMT
#1650
Mafia Vigilante (At night you may shoot one person. You have only a single shot. If you are role blocked while shooting your shot will not be refunded.)

Reminder
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 31 2023 01:13 GMT
#1651
On August 31 2023 10:07 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 10:03 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 31 2023 10:01 Vivax wrote:
On August 31 2023 09:59 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Is a double bus strategy where mafia intentionally makes both lynches mafia? If so that's hilarious I have to try it one day. Oh I've just worked it out it's bussing each other nvm.


LS could have tried to push for a Koshi wagon for example with support from DP and even others but right now it might as well be a competition about two mafia on who dies first. Which it kinda looks like.


Naw I recon math and ls are never together. That's far too dumb a scenario even for me. Day two there has to be enough mafia pull to at least avoid one being mafia.


The only one who I think could be mafia playing tug-o-war well today is iamperfection but he's a claimed vig so scratch that.

And Koshi. As mafia he knows he can't have DP around when DP is town and also after the rayn kill so he has to go full frontal.


So one on each wagon huh?
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 31 2023 01:29 GMT
#1652
I still think it's pointless viewing him as scum though un counter claimed and based on the early shot mafia would like to save it so they can surprise kill if not under threat of being lynched.

Which means koshi if mafia is on the same person you're voting for?
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 31 2023 01:30 GMT
#1653
I'm either a genius or the dumbest town alive can't wait to see the obs chat.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 01:36 GMT
#1654
On August 31 2023 09:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 09:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 09:35 Vivax wrote:
Hey DP. I'm flattered.

For LS I'll have to check his list and see if it adds up, I only glanced over it for now so let me begin with mathe.

On August 26 2023 23:59 mathenalin wrote:
I really think VE could be onto something with chez.
Would actually be a very good lynch at this point


This is a hyperbole post in regards to what VE had to say cause nobody who didn't bother like myself didn't try to have an AI figure him out. I could understand the enthusiasm if he would have previously had a town read on VE but nada.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 26 2023 21:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Look at how Chezinu squirms once the AI figured him out so hard. As if to say "Hey guys this game I'm going to be extra unpredictable so definitely don't ask if I'm mafia!!!"

I'm fucking watching you Chez. You always think it but it's explicitly stated this game. Your filter has its own window. O > O <


On August 26 2023 21:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like pregame he was all playing with the AI and now he mentions it in passing and then OH LOOK AT THIS PRETTY PICTURE!!!!


O > O <


On August 26 2023 21:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hmmmmmm.....that might not wash, right? Because like........acting extra would make the AI MORE likely to think he's mafia if we were to ask.

Whatever. He won't be able to hide for long if he's mafia. Because I'm watching. ALWAYS WATCHING.



At most this was a FoS from VE with his usual exaggeration that mathe turned into a fully fledged scumread. However it's also pretty ballsy timing wise for a scum to just latch onto it like that so there's a lazy town angle to be had.

On August 27 2023 03:20 mathenalin wrote:
On August 27 2023 01:43 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2023 23:59 mathenalin wrote:
I really think VE could be onto something with chez.
Would actually be a very good lynch at this point


This reads to me like a busser‘s opinion purely off gut.
Any own reasons for this read ?


Oh do you think chez is mafia aswell then,

i've got a good feeling that he's mafia.


Here again an instance of enthusiasm that's more townie in my books and it looks like he's all giddy just waiting for a command to cannonball into him some more.

Feels like it's personal to some degree due to outside factors that others could know more about as I can only guess. We should all listen more to commonwealth countries. They already have their atrocities behind them so no need to commit more in the spirit of national superiority.

On August 27 2023 05:20 mathenalin wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:09 Koshi wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:06 mathenalin wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:04 Koshi wrote:
On August 26 2023 13:57 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 26 2023 13:38 iamperfection wrote:
we go from skirting the rules punk to boy scout punk.


Just anecdotally you seem more on point with these calls this game. Could be a well we just lost a game due to this result punk tho so I'll not say it means anything about him more you though.

I like you better this game.

Hmmmm on point is not the word I would use. Maybe confrontational. It's different not sure better. Pressuring Chez is 100% pointless.


Do you have a way of reading him?

No. Each day just start your vote on Chez and only remove it if you find mafia.

Fair enough, hes done a very poor job handling the pressure so far that im happy to keep it going


Tunnel confirmed.

On August 27 2023 18:28 mathenalin wrote:
VE is pretty disappointing, no one has read him as town which is a bad sign but he hasn't contributed much of note.


This is a stinky post because it took away all credit from VE FOSing Chez when mathe agreed with him.

But also, townie thing to say because it shows that mathe isn't thinking in an allies and enemies dichotomy which mafia often is forced into.

On August 28 2023 02:03 mathenalin wrote:
On August 28 2023 01:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Also ty Vivax! Turning 29 years old so I getting a bit old now >.<

Rip


Wat?

On August 28 2023 04:58 mathenalin wrote:
I think VE is a good choice. Hes been lacklustre and his weird vote on me and chez rules reasoning is super terrible. Glad others have confirmed my feeling.
Vote: VisceraEyes


Wat^2?

Mathe is in my opinion just a disorganized townie after this read. There's no agenda here just pure-hearted chaos.

Should I continue?



Why do you think he just left then??


If that's alignment indicative, shouldn't you have voted TTT?
I just left too when VE pushed me in TLE 1 when I was doctor but that's cause my need to sleep had priority. It's not AI.


It is when it’s for literally no reason and it completely contradicts the way he was acting before.

I know ttt has irl issues so that is different
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 01:38 GMT
#1655
On August 31 2023 10:01 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 09:59 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Is a double bus strategy where mafia intentionally makes both lynches mafia? If so that's hilarious I have to try it one day. Oh I've just worked it out it's bussing each other nvm.


LS could have tried to push for a Koshi wagon for example with support from DP and even others but right now it might as well be a competition about two mafia on who dies first. Which it kinda looks like.


It’s hard cause I want to lynch them both.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 01:40 GMT
#1656
On August 31 2023 10:07 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 10:03 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 31 2023 10:01 Vivax wrote:
On August 31 2023 09:59 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Is a double bus strategy where mafia intentionally makes both lynches mafia? If so that's hilarious I have to try it one day. Oh I've just worked it out it's bussing each other nvm.


LS could have tried to push for a Koshi wagon for example with support from DP and even others but right now it might as well be a competition about two mafia on who dies first. Which it kinda looks like.


Naw I recon math and ls are never together. That's far too dumb a scenario even for me. Day two there has to be enough mafia pull to at least avoid one being mafia.


The only one who I think could be mafia playing tug-o-war well today is iamperfection but he's a claimed vig so scratch that.

And Koshi. As mafia he knows he can't have DP around when DP is town and also after the rayn kill so he has to go full frontal.


I’m pretty sure that’s what’s happening with koshi.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 01:42 GMT
#1657
On August 31 2023 10:29 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I still think it's pointless viewing him as scum though un counter claimed and based on the early shot mafia would like to save it so they can surprise kill if not under threat of being lynched.

Which means koshi if mafia is on the same person you're voting for?


If koshi is mafia and ls is mafia koshi set up some conspiracy where I am scum and bussing ls.

Part of me wants to swap wagon last minute though.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 31 2023 01:42 GMT
#1658
On August 31 2023 10:08 Vivax wrote:
Mafia Vigilante (At night you may shoot one person. You have only a single shot. If you are role blocked while shooting your shot will not be refunded.)

Reminder

there is no way there would be too much kp going around.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 31 2023 01:43 GMT
#1659
Day Two Vote Count

LightningStrike (6): JacobStrangelove, mathenalin, Koshi, Vivax, Vivax, DarthPunk, marvellosity, die_meatbaby
mathenalin (4): JacobStranglelove, iamperfection, JacobStrangelove, DarthPunk, LightningStrike, TankTopTiger, die_meatbaby
DarthPunk (0): TankTopTiger
TankTopTiger (0): marvellosity, JacobStrangelove, Vivax

With 6 votes, LightningStrike is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Thursday, Aug 31 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 01:43 GMT
#1660
On August 31 2023 10:42 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 10:08 Vivax wrote:
Mafia Vigilante (At night you may shoot one person. You have only a single shot. If you are role blocked while shooting your shot will not be refunded.)

Reminder

there is no way there would be too much kp going around.


Agreed

Math or LS you think perfection?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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