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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 31 2023 00:00 GMT
#1621
On August 31 2023 04:20 iamperfection wrote:
And if ls is town?


On August 31 2023 02:57 iamperfection wrote:
Need to vote meat


This is your D2 if I had to sum it up in two posts and also a bunch of loose supicions on others.

What about my analysis of LS‘ read progressions do you not see as convincing ?

Or DPs analysis of mathe but either way there‘s no point in having other names on the table.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
August 31 2023 00:00 GMT
#1622
Also Vivax did you feed the snake today or should I do it now?
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 31 2023 00:00 GMT
#1623
TTT Koshi maybe but I see them both with a higher degree of uncertainty
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 31 2023 00:02 GMT
#1624
On August 31 2023 09:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
Also Vivax did you feed the snake today or should I do it now?


Keep it safe for work.

You can either post in here or post more in here until then no food for you.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
August 31 2023 00:03 GMT
#1625
On August 31 2023 09:02 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 09:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
Also Vivax did you feed the snake today or should I do it now?


Keep it safe for work.

You can either post in here or post more in here until then no food for you.


But meat needs meat
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 00:04 GMT
#1626
managed to take a bathroom break and catchup on the thread. I am really ok with both wagons.

But I think its gonna be bad if MAth just never comes back or tries to defend himself,

its really a question of motivation why is math not engaged by scumhunting, at this point, especially when there is a lot more happening ITT?

even if you are under suspicion you can still, as town, find away to be engaged with solving as much as possible before you go down.

I also don't know what to make of LS and his reads that don't go along with thread sentment, definately outside of the normal play of LS as both alingments.

AS much as I want to vote with marv I don;t want to vote with Koshi, so at the end of the da I am ok with both wagons.

VIVAX!!! what do you think brother? Math or LS?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
August 31 2023 00:06 GMT
#1627
On August 31 2023 09:04 DarthPunk wrote:
managed to take a bathroom break and catchup on the thread. I am really ok with both wagons.

But I think its gonna be bad if MAth just never comes back or tries to defend himself,

its really a question of motivation why is math not engaged by scumhunting, at this point, especially when there is a lot more happening ITT?

even if you are under suspicion you can still, as town, find away to be engaged with solving as much as possible before you go down.

I also don't know what to make of LS and his reads that don't go along with thread sentment, definately outside of the normal play of LS as both alingments.

AS much as I want to vote with marv I don;t want to vote with Koshi, so at the end of the da I am ok with both wagons.

VIVAX!!! what do you think brother? Math or LS?


TTT
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 00:07 GMT
#1628
I said I would give him a pass for this day.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 31 2023 00:08 GMT
#1629
Day Two Vote Count

LightningStrike (5): JacobStrangelove, mathenalin, Koshi, Vivax, Vivax, DarthPunk, marvellosity
mathenalin (5): JacobStranglelove, iamperfection, JacobStrangelove, DarthPunk, LightningStrike, TankTopTiger, die_meatbaby
DarthPunk (0): TankTopTiger
TankTopTiger (0): marvellosity, JacobStrangelove, Vivax

With 5 votes, LightningStrike is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Thursday, Aug 31 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 31 2023 00:24 GMT
#1630
On August 31 2023 08:52 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 07:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
If koshi is mafia for not voting dp does that mean he's still happy with an LS lynch going through?


Dp/Koshi/?
would be an interesting wagon I never thought until now.


Math, because while they say don't mind either the votes are still on ls.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 31 2023 00:28 GMT
#1631
Also that's all ten votes. Ls set to be lynched. I hope I'm wrong.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 31 2023 00:35 GMT
#1632
Hey DP. I'm flattered.

For LS I'll have to check his list and see if it adds up, I only glanced over it for now so let me begin with mathe.

On August 26 2023 23:59 mathenalin wrote:
I really think VE could be onto something with chez.
Would actually be a very good lynch at this point


This is a hyperbole post in regards to what VE had to say cause nobody who didn't bother like myself didn't try to have an AI figure him out. I could understand the enthusiasm if he would have previously had a town read on VE but nada.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 26 2023 21:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Look at how Chezinu squirms once the AI figured him out so hard. As if to say "Hey guys this game I'm going to be extra unpredictable so definitely don't ask if I'm mafia!!!"

I'm fucking watching you Chez. You always think it but it's explicitly stated this game. Your filter has its own window. O > O <


On August 26 2023 21:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like pregame he was all playing with the AI and now he mentions it in passing and then OH LOOK AT THIS PRETTY PICTURE!!!!


O > O <


On August 26 2023 21:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hmmmmmm.....that might not wash, right? Because like........acting extra would make the AI MORE likely to think he's mafia if we were to ask.

Whatever. He won't be able to hide for long if he's mafia. Because I'm watching. ALWAYS WATCHING.



At most this was a FoS from VE with his usual exaggeration that mathe turned into a fully fledged scumread. However it's also pretty ballsy timing wise for a scum to just latch onto it like that so there's a lazy town angle to be had.

On August 27 2023 03:20 mathenalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2023 01:43 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2023 23:59 mathenalin wrote:
I really think VE could be onto something with chez.
Would actually be a very good lynch at this point


This reads to me like a busser‘s opinion purely off gut.
Any own reasons for this read ?


Oh do you think chez is mafia aswell then,

i've got a good feeling that he's mafia.


Here again an instance of enthusiasm that's more townie in my books and it looks like he's all giddy just waiting for a command to cannonball into him some more.

Feels like it's personal to some degree due to outside factors that others could know more about as I can only guess. We should all listen more to commonwealth countries. They already have their atrocities behind them so no need to commit more in the spirit of national superiority.

On August 27 2023 05:20 mathenalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2023 05:09 Koshi wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:06 mathenalin wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:04 Koshi wrote:
On August 26 2023 13:57 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 26 2023 13:38 iamperfection wrote:
we go from skirting the rules punk to boy scout punk.


Just anecdotally you seem more on point with these calls this game. Could be a well we just lost a game due to this result punk tho so I'll not say it means anything about him more you though.

I like you better this game.

Hmmmm on point is not the word I would use. Maybe confrontational. It's different not sure better. Pressuring Chez is 100% pointless.


Do you have a way of reading him?

No. Each day just start your vote on Chez and only remove it if you find mafia.

Fair enough, hes done a very poor job handling the pressure so far that im happy to keep it going


Tunnel confirmed.

On August 27 2023 18:28 mathenalin wrote:
VE is pretty disappointing, no one has read him as town which is a bad sign but he hasn't contributed much of note.


This is a stinky post because it took away all credit from VE FOSing Chez when mathe agreed with him.

But also, townie thing to say because it shows that mathe isn't thinking in an allies and enemies dichotomy which mafia often is forced into.

On August 28 2023 02:03 mathenalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 01:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Also ty Vivax! Turning 29 years old so I getting a bit old now >.<

Rip


Wat?

On August 28 2023 04:58 mathenalin wrote:
I think VE is a good choice. Hes been lacklustre and his weird vote on me and chez rules reasoning is super terrible. Glad others have confirmed my feeling.
Vote: VisceraEyes


Wat^2?

Mathe is in my opinion just a disorganized townie after this read. There's no agenda here just pure-hearted chaos.

Should I continue?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 31 2023 00:37 GMT
#1633
On August 31 2023 09:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 04:20 iamperfection wrote:
And if ls is town?


Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 02:57 iamperfection wrote:
Need to vote meat


This is your D2 if I had to sum it up in two posts and also a bunch of loose supicions on others.

What about my analysis of LS‘ read progressions do you not see as convincing ?

Or DPs analysis of mathe but either way there‘s no point in having other names on the table.

?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
August 31 2023 00:40 GMT
#1634
On August 31 2023 09:37 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 09:00 Vivax wrote:
On August 31 2023 04:20 iamperfection wrote:
And if ls is town?


On August 31 2023 02:57 iamperfection wrote:
Need to vote meat


This is your D2 if I had to sum it up in two posts and also a bunch of loose supicions on others.

What about my analysis of LS‘ read progressions do you not see as convincing ?

Or DPs analysis of mathe but either way there‘s no point in having other names on the table.

?


No "?" needed
even I am feeling this was a bad D2 as playing for the 4th time
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 31 2023 00:41 GMT
#1635
On August 31 2023 09:40 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 09:37 iamperfection wrote:
On August 31 2023 09:00 Vivax wrote:
On August 31 2023 04:20 iamperfection wrote:
And if ls is town?


On August 31 2023 02:57 iamperfection wrote:
Need to vote meat


This is your D2 if I had to sum it up in two posts and also a bunch of loose supicions on others.

What about my analysis of LS‘ read progressions do you not see as convincing ?

Or DPs analysis of mathe but either way there‘s no point in having other names on the table.

?


No "?" needed
even I am feeling this was a bad D2 as playing for the 4th time


I think you should vote LS.
I know you like a bit of antagonism but pweeaaaaase
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
August 31 2023 00:50 GMT
#1636
On August 31 2023 09:41 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 09:40 die_meatbaby wrote:
On August 31 2023 09:37 iamperfection wrote:
On August 31 2023 09:00 Vivax wrote:
On August 31 2023 04:20 iamperfection wrote:
And if ls is town?


On August 31 2023 02:57 iamperfection wrote:
Need to vote meat


This is your D2 if I had to sum it up in two posts and also a bunch of loose supicions on others.

What about my analysis of LS‘ read progressions do you not see as convincing ?

Or DPs analysis of mathe but either way there‘s no point in having other names on the table.

?


No "?" needed
even I am feeling this was a bad D2 as playing for the 4th time


I think you should vote LS.
I know you like a bit of antagonism but pweeaaaaase


Okey but just because math is a newbie and you guys let me play on my first game longer than I should because I looked scum as hell
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 31 2023 00:50 GMT
#1637
On August 31 2023 09:35 Vivax wrote:
Hey DP. I'm flattered.

For LS I'll have to check his list and see if it adds up, I only glanced over it for now so let me begin with mathe.

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 23:59 mathenalin wrote:
I really think VE could be onto something with chez.
Would actually be a very good lynch at this point


This is a hyperbole post in regards to what VE had to say cause nobody who didn't bother like myself didn't try to have an AI figure him out. I could understand the enthusiasm if he would have previously had a town read on VE but nada.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 26 2023 21:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Look at how Chezinu squirms once the AI figured him out so hard. As if to say "Hey guys this game I'm going to be extra unpredictable so definitely don't ask if I'm mafia!!!"

I'm fucking watching you Chez. You always think it but it's explicitly stated this game. Your filter has its own window. O > O <


On August 26 2023 21:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like pregame he was all playing with the AI and now he mentions it in passing and then OH LOOK AT THIS PRETTY PICTURE!!!!


O > O <


On August 26 2023 21:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hmmmmmm.....that might not wash, right? Because like........acting extra would make the AI MORE likely to think he's mafia if we were to ask.

Whatever. He won't be able to hide for long if he's mafia. Because I'm watching. ALWAYS WATCHING.



At most this was a FoS from VE with his usual exaggeration that mathe turned into a fully fledged scumread. However it's also pretty ballsy timing wise for a scum to just latch onto it like that so there's a lazy town angle to be had.

Show nested quote +
On August 27 2023 03:20 mathenalin wrote:
On August 27 2023 01:43 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2023 23:59 mathenalin wrote:
I really think VE could be onto something with chez.
Would actually be a very good lynch at this point


This reads to me like a busser‘s opinion purely off gut.
Any own reasons for this read ?


Oh do you think chez is mafia aswell then,

i've got a good feeling that he's mafia.


Here again an instance of enthusiasm that's more townie in my books and it looks like he's all giddy just waiting for a command to cannonball into him some more.

Feels like it's personal to some degree due to outside factors that others could know more about as I can only guess. We should all listen more to commonwealth countries. They already have their atrocities behind them so no need to commit more in the spirit of national superiority.

Show nested quote +
On August 27 2023 05:20 mathenalin wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:09 Koshi wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:06 mathenalin wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:04 Koshi wrote:
On August 26 2023 13:57 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 26 2023 13:38 iamperfection wrote:
we go from skirting the rules punk to boy scout punk.


Just anecdotally you seem more on point with these calls this game. Could be a well we just lost a game due to this result punk tho so I'll not say it means anything about him more you though.

I like you better this game.

Hmmmm on point is not the word I would use. Maybe confrontational. It's different not sure better. Pressuring Chez is 100% pointless.


Do you have a way of reading him?

No. Each day just start your vote on Chez and only remove it if you find mafia.

Fair enough, hes done a very poor job handling the pressure so far that im happy to keep it going


Tunnel confirmed.

Show nested quote +
On August 27 2023 18:28 mathenalin wrote:
VE is pretty disappointing, no one has read him as town which is a bad sign but he hasn't contributed much of note.


This is a stinky post because it took away all credit from VE FOSing Chez when mathe agreed with him.

But also, townie thing to say because it shows that mathe isn't thinking in an allies and enemies dichotomy which mafia often is forced into.

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 02:03 mathenalin wrote:
On August 28 2023 01:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Also ty Vivax! Turning 29 years old so I getting a bit old now >.<

Rip


Wat?

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 04:58 mathenalin wrote:
I think VE is a good choice. Hes been lacklustre and his weird vote on me and chez rules reasoning is super terrible. Glad others have confirmed my feeling.
Vote: VisceraEyes


Wat^2?

Mathe is in my opinion just a disorganized townie after this read. There's no agenda here just pure-hearted chaos.

Should I continue?



Why do you think he just left then??
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 31 2023 00:52 GMT
#1638
On August 31 2023 06:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 05:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 31 2023 05:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 05:31 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 31 2023 05:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and hi DP and ya I agree his case on you is very awful and you brought up a good point.



What’s up LS?

If you are town I would start posting all your reads.

Not much on my way home and ya I will post my reads when I get home.

DP: Town his fights was pushing the game forward and is actively trying to work with everyone.
math: Mafia I already said why towards Koshi.
Vivax: Can't tell if he changed his meta to posting more as mafia or his skill did decrease regarding his ability to read me because I feel like town Vivax would still try to figure the game out now. Null
Marv: Likely mafia he would not get my alignment wrong if he was town.
DMB: My 3rd biggest townread her reaction to Iamp's claim cements her being town I will argue with whoever thinks she is mafia.
Koshi: Likely mafia his case on DP was very horrendous for the amount of effort he put into it plus he been extra lazy for his own standards.
Iamp: unCCed Vig and had no reason to claim vig if he was mafia. Biggest townread.
TTT: Second biggest townread felt like he been more insightful this game compared to his last scum game plus his stuff towards DP seems very genuine.
JSL: Idk what to think of him but his posting been very all over the place idk if it's confused town or mafia trying to create chaos. Null.


The marv read is pure omgus and the Koshi read is fully based on his own read on DP so rather shallow.

At this rate both wagons could be scum but mathe has that chaos component that doesn't seem intentional and he seems unbothered by having opinions that work against him so LS is my clear preference.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
August 31 2023 00:55 GMT
#1639
On August 31 2023 09:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 09:35 Vivax wrote:
Hey DP. I'm flattered.

For LS I'll have to check his list and see if it adds up, I only glanced over it for now so let me begin with mathe.

On August 26 2023 23:59 mathenalin wrote:
I really think VE could be onto something with chez.
Would actually be a very good lynch at this point


This is a hyperbole post in regards to what VE had to say cause nobody who didn't bother like myself didn't try to have an AI figure him out. I could understand the enthusiasm if he would have previously had a town read on VE but nada.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 26 2023 21:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Look at how Chezinu squirms once the AI figured him out so hard. As if to say "Hey guys this game I'm going to be extra unpredictable so definitely don't ask if I'm mafia!!!"

I'm fucking watching you Chez. You always think it but it's explicitly stated this game. Your filter has its own window. O > O <


On August 26 2023 21:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like pregame he was all playing with the AI and now he mentions it in passing and then OH LOOK AT THIS PRETTY PICTURE!!!!


O > O <


On August 26 2023 21:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hmmmmmm.....that might not wash, right? Because like........acting extra would make the AI MORE likely to think he's mafia if we were to ask.

Whatever. He won't be able to hide for long if he's mafia. Because I'm watching. ALWAYS WATCHING.



At most this was a FoS from VE with his usual exaggeration that mathe turned into a fully fledged scumread. However it's also pretty ballsy timing wise for a scum to just latch onto it like that so there's a lazy town angle to be had.

On August 27 2023 03:20 mathenalin wrote:
On August 27 2023 01:43 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2023 23:59 mathenalin wrote:
I really think VE could be onto something with chez.
Would actually be a very good lynch at this point


This reads to me like a busser‘s opinion purely off gut.
Any own reasons for this read ?


Oh do you think chez is mafia aswell then,

i've got a good feeling that he's mafia.


Here again an instance of enthusiasm that's more townie in my books and it looks like he's all giddy just waiting for a command to cannonball into him some more.

Feels like it's personal to some degree due to outside factors that others could know more about as I can only guess. We should all listen more to commonwealth countries. They already have their atrocities behind them so no need to commit more in the spirit of national superiority.

On August 27 2023 05:20 mathenalin wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:09 Koshi wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:06 mathenalin wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:04 Koshi wrote:
On August 26 2023 13:57 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 26 2023 13:38 iamperfection wrote:
we go from skirting the rules punk to boy scout punk.


Just anecdotally you seem more on point with these calls this game. Could be a well we just lost a game due to this result punk tho so I'll not say it means anything about him more you though.

I like you better this game.

Hmmmm on point is not the word I would use. Maybe confrontational. It's different not sure better. Pressuring Chez is 100% pointless.


Do you have a way of reading him?

No. Each day just start your vote on Chez and only remove it if you find mafia.

Fair enough, hes done a very poor job handling the pressure so far that im happy to keep it going


Tunnel confirmed.

On August 27 2023 18:28 mathenalin wrote:
VE is pretty disappointing, no one has read him as town which is a bad sign but he hasn't contributed much of note.


This is a stinky post because it took away all credit from VE FOSing Chez when mathe agreed with him.

But also, townie thing to say because it shows that mathe isn't thinking in an allies and enemies dichotomy which mafia often is forced into.

On August 28 2023 02:03 mathenalin wrote:
On August 28 2023 01:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Also ty Vivax! Turning 29 years old so I getting a bit old now >.<

Rip


Wat?

On August 28 2023 04:58 mathenalin wrote:
I think VE is a good choice. Hes been lacklustre and his weird vote on me and chez rules reasoning is super terrible. Glad others have confirmed my feeling.
Vote: VisceraEyes


Wat^2?

Mathe is in my opinion just a disorganized townie after this read. There's no agenda here just pure-hearted chaos.

Should I continue?



Why do you think he just left then??


If that's alignment indicative, shouldn't you have voted TTT?
I just left too when VE pushed me in TLE 1 when I was doctor but that's cause my need to sleep had priority. It's not AI.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
August 31 2023 00:55 GMT
#1640
On August 31 2023 09:52 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 06:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 31 2023 05:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 31 2023 05:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 05:31 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 31 2023 05:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and hi DP and ya I agree his case on you is very awful and you brought up a good point.



What’s up LS?

If you are town I would start posting all your reads.

Not much on my way home and ya I will post my reads when I get home.

DP: Town his fights was pushing the game forward and is actively trying to work with everyone.
math: Mafia I already said why towards Koshi.
Vivax: Can't tell if he changed his meta to posting more as mafia or his skill did decrease regarding his ability to read me because I feel like town Vivax would still try to figure the game out now. Null
Marv: Likely mafia he would not get my alignment wrong if he was town.
DMB: My 3rd biggest townread her reaction to Iamp's claim cements her being town I will argue with whoever thinks she is mafia.
Koshi: Likely mafia his case on DP was very horrendous for the amount of effort he put into it plus he been extra lazy for his own standards.
Iamp: unCCed Vig and had no reason to claim vig if he was mafia. Biggest townread.
TTT: Second biggest townread felt like he been more insightful this game compared to his last scum game plus his stuff towards DP seems very genuine.
JSL: Idk what to think of him but his posting been very all over the place idk if it's confused town or mafia trying to create chaos. Null.


The marv read is pure omgus and the Koshi read is fully based on his own read on DP so rather shallow.

At this rate both wagons could be scum but mathe has that chaos component that doesn't seem intentional and he seems unbothered by having opinions that work against him so LS is my clear preference.


But LS always looks like scum
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
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