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JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 09:07 GMT
#1201
On August 29 2023 15:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 15:17 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 29 2023 14:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 29 2023 13:50 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 13:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 29 2023 13:15 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 12:56 iamperfection wrote:
why didnt you consider a mafia vig. You can confess your sins to me

im going to bed but im not forgetting this DP.


Didn’t remember about mafia vig not a role I have played with a lot, or is that likely in a 10+3 setup

Also

Why would you do that as mafia? lol

Naughty boy. Let's see what the others say


What’s naughty about it?

Anyway we really need to solve things this phase btw.

The Rayn nk is interesting maybe dodging medic


Aware you might take a while to respond to this understandable. So you don't think Rayn's reads were good at all?


His top read was on VE who just flipped town.



I mean yeah but a lot of people read VE as mafia. I wouldn't ignore genuine reads entirely.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 29 2023 09:18 GMT
#1202
On August 29 2023 18:07 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 15:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 29 2023 15:17 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 29 2023 14:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 29 2023 13:50 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 13:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 29 2023 13:15 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 12:56 iamperfection wrote:
why didnt you consider a mafia vig. You can confess your sins to me

im going to bed but im not forgetting this DP.


Didn’t remember about mafia vig not a role I have played with a lot, or is that likely in a 10+3 setup

Also

Why would you do that as mafia? lol

Naughty boy. Let's see what the others say


What’s naughty about it?

Anyway we really need to solve things this phase btw.

The Rayn nk is interesting maybe dodging medic


Aware you might take a while to respond to this understandable. So you don't think Rayn's reads were good at all?


His top read was on VE who just flipped town.



I mean yeah but a lot of people read VE as mafia. I wouldn't ignore genuine reads entirely.


I guy you voting with math on LS you don’t think he is mafia?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 09:19 GMT
#1203
On August 28 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i have to sleep before work.
VE/LS/TTT/DP.

For now i think it doesnt get harder than that.

To remember
I had a good night of sleep.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 29 2023 09:20 GMT
#1204
On August 29 2023 18:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i have to sleep before work.
VE/LS/TTT/DP.

For now i think it doesnt get harder than that.

To remember


At least two of these are wrong…

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 09:41 GMT
#1205
Caught up from the lynch. Didn’t read around 5 pages before lynch but cba.
Going to park my vote on LS and figure out if he mafia misslynch of choice or just mafia.

##vote: LS

More to come during and after lunchbreak.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 09:42 GMT
#1206
On August 29 2023 18:20 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 18:19 Koshi wrote:
On August 28 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i have to sleep before work.
VE/LS/TTT/DP.

For now i think it doesnt get harder than that.

To remember


At least two of these are wrong…


Doesn't sound very good for the other 2 then.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 09:51 GMT
#1207
On August 29 2023 12:23 JacobStrangelove wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 17:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you could technically argue Koshi could be mafia if VE is town (i wouldnt still believe that), but never with VE, since at the time thread progression was VE lynch pushed by marv+rayn+iamp and from those people marv+iamp didnt think mebaby is town, so why make a read the influence doesnt believe and is not supposed to gain you any town points?

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 19:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Reasons:
- tried to change the lynch from his town read but not really tried
- missing out on obvious good reasons on VE and doing something else instead
- something else instead was kind of a lackluster, i doubt he actually wanted to do something else instead
- Koshi pointed out smart stuff, DP pointed out stupid stuff on that
- bad read on mebaby, not warranted at all that point

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is also this Koshi thing that doesnt make any sense...

also back to koshi


Hmm so doesn't want to lynch VE because he wanted to lynch math but we can ignore this as VE is town so I stillt hink math vote good but there's a lot ot TTT LS and DP preasure coming out of the person Mafia shot.


A bit of Koshi presure as well. This indicates to me that the focus should be on TTT LS DP Koshi or, Math as the side vote. I might end up switching vote off math based on this. I like DP personally think ray could have just been wrong think honestly might be semi lurky LS being like lets get the guy who keeps saying I'm mafia dead.[/QUOTE]
The things you point out here are false.
First quote he says "I still wont believe koshi is mafia in this scenario"
Second quote he is talking about the DP stuff said against me. "What DP said about Koshi doesn't make sense"
Nothing there is rayn pressure on me. Quite the opposite because he townread me because of the DP stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 09:51 GMT
#1208
fml
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 09:55 GMT
#1209
On August 28 2023 17:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you could technically argue Koshi could be mafia if VE is town (i wouldnt still believe that), but never with VE, since at the time thread progression was VE lynch pushed by marv+rayn+iamp and from those people marv+iamp didnt think mebaby is town, so why make a read the influence doesnt believe and is not supposed to gain you any town points?


On August 28 2023 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is also this Koshi thing that doesnt make any sense...


On August 28 2023 19:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Reasons:
- tried to change the lynch from his town read but not really tried
- missing out on obvious good reasons on VE and doing something else instead
- something else instead was kind of a lackluster, i doubt he actually wanted to do something else instead
- Koshi pointed out smart stuff, DP pointed out stupid stuff on that
- bad read on mebaby, not warranted at all that point


I fucked it up.

The things you point out here are false. Potentially intentionnaly because you also changed the order of the quotes.

First quote he says "I still wont believe koshi is mafia in this scenario" but in theory it is possible.

Second quote he is talking about the DP stuff said against me. "What DP said about Koshi doesn't make sense" and he explains it better in the next quote

Nothing there is rayn pressure on me. Quite the opposite because he townread me because of the DP stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 09:55 GMT
#1210
Not happy about that shit tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 09:56 GMT
#1211
(also I lied and didn't read last 3 pages yet so now I am catching up on those.)
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 10:02 GMT
#1212
On August 29 2023 12:32 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 11:54 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Okay you know what bold move I know. I'm not even under attack yet but I'm going to claim Vanilla Town. Because here's the thing. It's not giving any info to mafia well maybe slightly but not enough to matter and IF this means they don't kill me next and hit a blue that's not Iamperf it'll mean IF there is another blue they'll suddely realise Iamperf is lying. If not it's still low chance of them hitting blue knowing I'm not blue if I'm perf is blue as there's likely only one left.

Also this ups my chance of surviving to day three where I thrive as town by claiming stupid early not blue it takes away options if I was a mafia which isn't something a mafia would want to do certainly not someone who "as mafia" would want to wait til late game to counter claim a blue if I was mafia.

With this though I'm suggesting other town don't claim town over blue though because at that point we would be giving mafia too much information.

DP Marv and Koshi i would like your thoughts on this.

People tend to continue playing as mafia more than as town. To not let the team down.
So if he is mafia it is with people that aren't active.

If it is a fake drop out. I would be very upset.


I am a big fan of never modkilling for inactivity and never replacing people with a filter +1 page. The info is in the thread and the game is not balanced around it.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2023 10:02 GMT
#1213
On August 29 2023 05:47 JacobStrangelove wrote:
The math case does look solid so far don't quite like the response looks a bit stiff.

I don’t agree with this
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 10:03 GMT
#1214
On August 29 2023 12:54 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 12:53 iamperfection wrote:
interesting that DP considered me confirmed town. He didn't even consider a mafia vig.......

marv and koshi thoughts on this plz.

People who considered a mafia vig longer than a minisecond should be lynched. That's the dumbest shit possible. And also. The problem solves itselve most likely.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 10:09 GMT
#1215
On August 29 2023 13:07 mathenalin wrote:
I think ls is the lynch. Still no investment, emotional or otherwise, hopped on the chez wagon.

Game hasnt been what i expected now VE has flipped town. Poor play and low activity from him. Plus someone replacing out because of headspace. Like its a text forum game not a war.

I'm being scumread by a lot of people now off of a weak case and responding to it is scummy apparently. I guess im not cut out for this game and don't understand it.

Im voting LS and outta here. Peace

# Vote LightningStrike

I think you played well but this is just weird.
tinfoil: 2 mafia that want to replace? lol
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 10:10 GMT
#1216
On August 29 2023 14:16 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 13:50 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 13:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 29 2023 13:15 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 12:56 iamperfection wrote:
why didnt you consider a mafia vig. You can confess your sins to me

im going to bed but im not forgetting this DP.


Didn’t remember about mafia vig not a role I have played with a lot, or is that likely in a 10+3 setup

Also

Why would you do that as mafia? lol

Naughty boy. Let's see what the others say


What’s naughty about it?

lol

lol

lol
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 10:12 GMT
#1217
On August 29 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 12:32 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 11:54 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Okay you know what bold move I know. I'm not even under attack yet but I'm going to claim Vanilla Town. Because here's the thing. It's not giving any info to mafia well maybe slightly but not enough to matter and IF this means they don't kill me next and hit a blue that's not Iamperf it'll mean IF there is another blue they'll suddely realise Iamperf is lying. If not it's still low chance of them hitting blue knowing I'm not blue if I'm perf is blue as there's likely only one left.

Also this ups my chance of surviving to day three where I thrive as town by claiming stupid early not blue it takes away options if I was a mafia which isn't something a mafia would want to do certainly not someone who "as mafia" would want to wait til late game to counter claim a blue if I was mafia.

With this though I'm suggesting other town don't claim town over blue though because at that point we would be giving mafia too much information.






DP Marv and Koshi i would like your thoughts on this.


Intial impression:

Dumb.

1st level down: Townish because he has the conspiratorial 'the mafia are after me and im gonna be NK' thing going on, completely lacking the self awareness to understand he is never getting shot and in all likilihood will be facing down a lylo with fucking LS and Math at this rate.

2nd level down: I am worried he is shit posting as mafia and getting away with it.

wow this was a brainshock
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2023 10:13 GMT
#1218
Ahhhhhh VE
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 10:15 GMT
#1219
On August 29 2023 19:12 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 29 2023 12:32 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 11:54 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Okay you know what bold move I know. I'm not even under attack yet but I'm going to claim Vanilla Town. Because here's the thing. It's not giving any info to mafia well maybe slightly but not enough to matter and IF this means they don't kill me next and hit a blue that's not Iamperf it'll mean IF there is another blue they'll suddely realise Iamperf is lying. If not it's still low chance of them hitting blue knowing I'm not blue if I'm perf is blue as there's likely only one left.

Also this ups my chance of surviving to day three where I thrive as town by claiming stupid early not blue it takes away options if I was a mafia which isn't something a mafia would want to do certainly not someone who "as mafia" would want to wait til late game to counter claim a blue if I was mafia.

With this though I'm suggesting other town don't claim town over blue though because at that point we would be giving mafia too much information.






DP Marv and Koshi i would like your thoughts on this.


Intial impression:

Dumb.

1st level down: Townish because he has the conspiratorial 'the mafia are after me and im gonna be NK' thing going on, completely lacking the self awareness to understand he is never getting shot and in all likilihood will be facing down a lylo with fucking LS and Math at this rate.

2nd level down: I am worried he is shit posting as mafia and getting away with it.

wow this was a brainshock

(because I misread that initial post)
I thought iamp quoted the same post twice and he asked about the jacob thing on TTT.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2023 10:16 GMT
#1220
On August 29 2023 11:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 11:34 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 11:28 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:09 Koshi wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:06 mathenalin wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:04 Koshi wrote:
On August 26 2023 13:57 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 26 2023 13:38 iamperfection wrote:
we go from skirting the rules punk to boy scout punk.


Just anecdotally you seem more on point with these calls this game. Could be a well we just lost a game due to this result punk tho so I'll not say it means anything about him more you though.

I like you better this game.

Hmmmm on point is not the word I would use. Maybe confrontational. It's different not sure better. Pressuring Chez is 100% pointless.


Do you have a way of reading him?

No. Each day just start your vote on Chez and only remove it if you find mafia.


Reread this after the flip.

what am i rereading ?


He knew that Chez was town

Don’t be ridiculous
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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