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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 29 2023 02:55 GMT
#1161
On August 29 2023 11:48 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Hey no I would confirm ipee town with that shot. At least for all intents and purposes until he doesn't die night two (without blue interaction)

Almost no point considering him as mafia until day 3 now if he somehow suvives.

Die baby thinking it's mafia would have to be a very new player though? Unless it's faked.

Fuck this does mean we have to hate marv now?

Friends to lovers is dashed.

it certainly is one or the other isn't it. thanks for your wonderful contribution.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 02:57 GMT
#1162
also Iamperfection as assumed town can you give your reads again.

I'll have to re read both ve and Ray to see what they said on who they thought was mafia ray particually clearly they were onto someone to look like a good shot.

Ve though iirc didn't read much at all which is annoying.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 02:58 GMT
#1163
On August 29 2023 11:55 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 11:48 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Hey no I would confirm ipee town with that shot. At least for all intents and purposes until he doesn't die night two (without blue interaction)

Almost no point considering him as mafia until day 3 now if he somehow suvives.

Die baby thinking it's mafia would have to be a very new player though? Unless it's faked.

Fuck this does mean we have to hate marv now?

Friends to lovers is dashed.

it certainly is one or the other isn't it. thanks for your wonderful contribution.



Well I don't know their history have they played a whole heap? If so.. sus if not town.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 29 2023 02:59 GMT
#1164
On August 29 2023 11:54 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Okay you know what bold move I know. I'm not even under attack yet but I'm going to claim Vanilla Town. Because here's the thing. It's not giving any info to mafia well maybe slightly but not enough to matter and IF this means they don't kill me next and hit a blue that's not Iamperf it'll mean IF there is another blue they'll suddely realise Iamperf is lying. If not it's still low chance of them hitting blue knowing I'm not blue if I'm perf is blue as there's likely only one left.

Also this ups my chance of surviving to day three where I thrive as town by claiming stupid early not blue it takes away options if I was a mafia which isn't something a mafia would want to do certainly not someone who "as mafia" would want to wait til late game to counter claim a blue if I was mafia.

With this though I'm suggesting other town don't claim town over blue though because at that point we would be giving mafia too much information.






is this a troll game. Did you all get together before the game and say since im in the game lets try to cause him as much annoyance as possible.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 29 2023 03:00 GMT
#1165
like why are people talking about survival if they are town. i legitimately don't understand.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 03:02 GMT
#1166
On August 29 2023 12:00 iamperfection wrote:
like why are people talking about survival if they are town. i legitimately don't understand.


Don't worry this will make sense later.

Okay so Ve's only real read is Math so is DPs who was against both town lynches day one.

I'm going to vote math and then read rayn's filters

##votes Math
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
August 29 2023 03:03 GMT
#1167
Yo.

I'm taking some time off the game. I asked to be replaced but that's hella unlikely to happen. This game feels like a chore to me where I'm getting blasted every time I try to engage with it. I understand why, but that doesn't help me want to play.

I feel bad about this, but I think it's better than the alternative where I either pretend to be engaged or end up fighting people over stupid shit.

gl
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 29 2023 03:05 GMT
#1168
fighting people over stupid shit is the whole basis of the game
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 29 2023 03:16 GMT
#1169
On August 29 2023 11:58 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 11:55 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 11:48 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Hey no I would confirm ipee town with that shot. At least for all intents and purposes until he doesn't die night two (without blue interaction)

Almost no point considering him as mafia until day 3 now if he somehow suvives.

Die baby thinking it's mafia would have to be a very new player though? Unless it's faked.

Fuck this does mean we have to hate marv now?

Friends to lovers is dashed.

it certainly is one or the other isn't it. thanks for your wonderful contribution.



Well I don't know their history have they played a whole heap? If so.. sus if not town.

you said we have to hate Marv now how did you come to that conclusion.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 03:23 GMT
#1170
On August 27 2023 00:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I was gonna speedread in my 10mins, butthere was nothing to read.

Is LS mafia now as he looks more town to me than last game lol?
Iamp probs town here.


Super early but this could be a spooked LS shot.

On August 27 2023 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think ismp looks very different from last game. Here i feel like he is actually interested inthe topics he takes part to (hope this answers your wuestion yesterday as well mathenalin).
Marv i had some restrictions early on, namely the "No" post where he after that somehow felt the need to wxplain the "no" for some reason. Idk it felt unnecessary. However his posting today i agree a lot with, the only reason i am not writing him off a firm town read is because he is defs capable pf that as mafia, sonce we are not really talking about scumreads here. Anyways id say town here.
Idk why Jacob is being scumread. He's more careless than before restart but you can probably tell why if you reslly think about it..
I dont think Vivax is mafia. Probably strongest town read after iamp. DP also looks "good" from the argument, but just because he was being logical and letting go ehen he "needed to" doesnt make him town. Definitely still townie side.
I also read mathenalin town just for being invested, but not a strong read, could still be mafia. I also read him town before restart, for the same reasons. Idk if it was a legit reasonto read him town for though.
TTT is probably town. Here he is actually asking about some relevant shit, before restart it was pretty... lol, i mean where he faked interest as mafia.

Everyone else can be mafia for now. Chezinu i dont even really care to read D1, dont hate the votes on him atm. Just dont know if what Jacob said is true. Koshi said some Koshi-smart stuff early on (before his marv/dp/rayn scum post). After that no smart. DMB has just not really posted.

Is someone else in the game? Let me look.


He likes Vivax, DP, Iamp, TTT? and Mathenalin. Hmm

On August 27 2023 20:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah LS and VE..

LS i dont care about until D1 end. Gonn be around near deadline so i will see what he has done by then.
VE isnt as townie as last game. He could post as town or as mafia as he has here imo.


On August 28 2023 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Koshi


Votes koshi early

On August 28 2023 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 03:25 mathenalin wrote:
On August 28 2023 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mathenalin, around 10 hours ago you said you were prioritizing getting a read on iamp and Jacob. I see you formed a read on iamp but there is no mention in your filter about Jacob (even after you talked with DP about your reads -- so it doesn't fall under "if anyone has questions for me" anymore i guess).

Did you ever form a read on Jacob?


I'd say i don't like him but i cant point to anything as, thats scum behaviour.

His point about dp following rules and iamp being "on point" was silly.

His vote on marv being anything other than a joke.

Then talking about voting chez but immediately calling it a "pressure" vote which instantly makes it lose power.

I'd lynch him and not lose sleep but i cant form a slam dunk case.

I find it quite weird you treat this as anti-town behavior for some reasons:
1) Every vote particularly during D1 is "pressure", since noone has a good clue who is mafia (especially seems to be true this game since nobody really seems to have a even remotely good case they trust.
2) You said yourself, before voting for Chezinu, at twice, that pressure on Chezinu is good and should be kept up.

Why did you say that while simultaneously claiming if you announce pressure it loses power over the target?


starts presuring Math

On August 28 2023 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 05:28 mathenalin wrote:
If VE is now here and making a contribution that isnt lynching me then I would rather lynch chez over anyone else.

I dont think it's time to play games like this rn, or if youre not playing games with him this is a very stupid post at best.


continues for a bit.

On August 28 2023 16:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Pretty sure Koshi is not mafia iamp.


Reverses on Koshi

On August 28 2023 17:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk DP, you didnt even try to get people on TTT your top scumread while mebaby was voting there and Vivax already said the post where she voted was tip top tier. Did you really want to lynch not-chezinu?


Starts going on DP

On August 28 2023 17:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 08:21 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hi. I read the thread while in bed and so I'm caught up.

Vote is currently split between VE and Chez, with VE set to go down.

I don't have anyone else I'd prefer to lynch, but I don't think these are great lynches. Feels LAL. Basically, both players are off, but assuming differences in play is due to alignment shift with no underlying mechanistic explanation is dumb. I've seen VE as scum, and it didn't look like this. I'm actually darker on VE now since I last mentioned him, because I think his responses have been nothing at all, but I still don't feel great about it.

I think Chez is a better lynch. VE is playing rubbish as either alignment, but I see this as NAI. Chez however isn't engaged in his shitposting and that seems like a red flag to me. He's offered zero insight and has been half-hearted in his provocation. He hasn't bargained or given cryptic clues about the game state. He also hasn't adapted to the ban on his seal. I believe last time he started using filters or something? Normally, he is galvanised by a sadistic need to lure people into his cryptic BS. This game, it feels like he's playing solitaire for show and doesn't actually want us to come and play.

this is so horrible... so very horrible.


and TTT

On August 28 2023 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS looks like he's just agreeing with whatever the game state is. So i am gonna say it's just VE + LS + DP/TTT, maybe TTT moreso than DP.


Interesting for context in this post.

On August 28 2023 17:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you could technically argue Koshi could be mafia if VE is town (i wouldnt still believe that), but never with VE, since at the time thread progression was VE lynch pushed by marv+rayn+iamp and from those people marv+iamp didnt think mebaby is town, so why make a read the influence doesnt believe and is not supposed to gain you any town points?


Koshi could be mafia now that VE is town according to town rayn.

On August 28 2023 18:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You're clearly talking to me like i am town, don't even try to deny it.

On August 28 2023 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think DP is mafia tbh..


On August 28 2023 19:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Reasons:
- tried to change the lynch from his town read but not really tried
- missing out on obvious good reasons on VE and doing something else instead
- something else instead was kind of a lackluster, i doubt he actually wanted to do something else instead
- Koshi pointed out smart stuff, DP pointed out stupid stuff on that
- bad read on mebaby, not warranted at all that point




Hmm is on DP again.

On August 28 2023 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is also this Koshi thing that doesnt make any sense...


also back to koshi


On August 28 2023 19:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
problem is TTT looks fucking insta red at this point and i dont really think they are mafia together...


But dp and TTT not mafia together? TTT bailing on the game does seem like something red TTT might do in frustration at being caughtish. Town ttt might just jump on someone else instead I would have thought.

On August 28 2023 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 21:10 marvellosity wrote:
Downgrading town lean on Vivax also. Chez called out iamp and Vivax saying ‘they should know better’. Think iamp is town though. Skimmed Vivax’s filter v quickly and I’m not sure there’s anything in there he couldn’t do as mafia

no, vivax is town,


Likes vivax still

On August 28 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i have to sleep before work.
VE/LS/TTT/DP.

For now i think it doesnt get harder than that.


LS TTT DP

On August 28 2023 21:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
kill me mafia or i will vote VE all D2.



Hmm Ironic?

On August 29 2023 03:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I want to lynch VE and TTT and because VE wanted to lynch mathenalin i dont care about him.


Hmm so doesn't want to lynch VE because he wanted to lynch math but we can ignore this as VE is town so I stillt hink math vote good but there's a lot ot TTT LS and DP preasure coming out of the person Mafia shot.


A bit of Koshi presure as well. This indicates to me that the focus should be on TTT LS DP Koshi or, Math as the side vote. I might end up switching vote off math based on this. I like DP personally think ray could have just been wrong think honestly might be semi lurky LS being like lets get the guy who keeps saying I'm mafia dead.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 03:25 GMT
#1171
On August 29 2023 12:16 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 11:58 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 29 2023 11:55 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 11:48 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Hey no I would confirm ipee town with that shot. At least for all intents and purposes until he doesn't die night two (without blue interaction)

Almost no point considering him as mafia until day 3 now if he somehow suvives.

Die baby thinking it's mafia would have to be a very new player though? Unless it's faked.

Fuck this does mean we have to hate marv now?

Friends to lovers is dashed.

it certainly is one or the other isn't it. thanks for your wonderful contribution.



Well I don't know their history have they played a whole heap? If so.. sus if not town.

you said we have to hate Marv now how did you come to that conclusion.


I forget who someone said wait wasn't it you who said if VE is town then marv is bad? And if it's you and theoretically I'm acting as you're town until counter claimed or if another two blue's end up dead what you say is genuine. I personally after looking at ray's filter who mafia wanted dead go hmm maybe it's LS possibly Koshi ttt with a side of DP tho.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 03:28 GMT
#1172
There's a lot of association goodness here I'll start forming linked scumteams.

Do I think DP and TTT can be a scum team together and secretly TTT is having a whale of a time pretending to be pissed off to the point of faking a withdrawal from the game?


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH no. No I don't. Entirely within their wheelhouse if they rolled scum together. But it does feel more likely he was dragged into the game by dp rolled scum twice and was like fuck it I can't do this shit I'm out and he would be more presured to be replaced if he was on mafia team as he feels like he's letting them down compared to town where he would be yall idiots fuck yall Scum is x I'm out bitches. here are my quick reads before I leave the thread.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 29 2023 03:28 GMT
#1173
On August 29 2023 12:25 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 12:16 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 11:58 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 29 2023 11:55 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 11:48 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Hey no I would confirm ipee town with that shot. At least for all intents and purposes until he doesn't die night two (without blue interaction)

Almost no point considering him as mafia until day 3 now if he somehow suvives.

Die baby thinking it's mafia would have to be a very new player though? Unless it's faked.

Fuck this does mean we have to hate marv now?

Friends to lovers is dashed.

it certainly is one or the other isn't it. thanks for your wonderful contribution.



Well I don't know their history have they played a whole heap? If so.. sus if not town.

you said we have to hate Marv now how did you come to that conclusion.


I forget who someone said wait wasn't it you who said if VE is town then marv is bad? And if it's you and theoretically I'm acting as you're town until counter claimed or if another two blue's end up dead what you say is genuine. I personally after looking at ray's filter who mafia wanted dead go hmm maybe it's LS possibly Koshi ttt with a side of DP tho.

you forgot who said it.. you know the posts don't change right.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 29 2023 03:32 GMT
#1174
On August 29 2023 12:28 JacobStrangelove wrote:
There's a lot of association goodness here I'll start forming linked scumteams.

Do I think DP and TTT can be a scum team together and secretly TTT is having a whale of a time pretending to be pissed off to the point of faking a withdrawal from the game?


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH no. No I don't. Entirely within their wheelhouse if they rolled scum together. But it does feel more likely he was dragged into the game by dp rolled scum twice and was like fuck it I can't do this shit I'm out and he would be more presured to be replaced if he was on mafia team as he feels like he's letting them down compared to town where he would be yall idiots fuck yall Scum is x I'm out bitches. here are my quick reads before I leave the thread.

its a wifom mind bomb. Probably should be a policy lynch but we should try to have a productive day anyways.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 29 2023 03:32 GMT
#1175
On August 29 2023 11:54 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Okay you know what bold move I know. I'm not even under attack yet but I'm going to claim Vanilla Town. Because here's the thing. It's not giving any info to mafia well maybe slightly but not enough to matter and IF this means they don't kill me next and hit a blue that's not Iamperf it'll mean IF there is another blue they'll suddely realise Iamperf is lying. If not it's still low chance of them hitting blue knowing I'm not blue if I'm perf is blue as there's likely only one left.

Also this ups my chance of surviving to day three where I thrive as town by claiming stupid early not blue it takes away options if I was a mafia which isn't something a mafia would want to do certainly not someone who "as mafia" would want to wait til late game to counter claim a blue if I was mafia.

With this though I'm suggesting other town don't claim town over blue though because at that point we would be giving mafia too much information.






DP Marv and Koshi i would like your thoughts on this.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 03:38 GMT
#1176
Actually you know what I think TTT is so red it's not even worth voting him for two reasons, one lets find someone else and two if he is town then maybe taking the preasure off him when he comes into the thread will allow him or a replacement to make some good reads and contribute.

I would focus more on LS and Koshi today and I'm picking LS for spooky reasons. Think Ray may have spooked him where as Ray went off koshi a bit in the middle. going to change vote to LS.

##vote LS
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 03:39 GMT
#1177
On August 29 2023 12:32 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 12:28 JacobStrangelove wrote:
There's a lot of association goodness here I'll start forming linked scumteams.

Do I think DP and TTT can be a scum team together and secretly TTT is having a whale of a time pretending to be pissed off to the point of faking a withdrawal from the game?


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH no. No I don't. Entirely within their wheelhouse if they rolled scum together. But it does feel more likely he was dragged into the game by dp rolled scum twice and was like fuck it I can't do this shit I'm out and he would be more presured to be replaced if he was on mafia team as he feels like he's letting them down compared to town where he would be yall idiots fuck yall Scum is x I'm out bitches. here are my quick reads before I leave the thread.

its a wifom mind bomb. Probably should be a policy lynch but we should try to have a productive day anyways.


yeah that's what I mean day would be more productive not focusing on him unless it looks like it's shit up near the end then policy voting him late if we have to.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 29 2023 03:53 GMT
#1178
interesting that DP considered me confirmed town. He didn't even consider a mafia vig.......
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 29 2023 03:54 GMT
#1179
On August 29 2023 12:53 iamperfection wrote:
interesting that DP considered me confirmed town. He didn't even consider a mafia vig.......

marv and koshi thoughts on this plz.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 29 2023 03:55 GMT
#1180
On August 29 2023 11:45 iamperfection wrote:
same to you DP i guess since in your mind you have a soft spot because he is a tip top player.



That’s not why I have a soft spot lol. I just like him around
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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