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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2023 12:38 GMT
#1021
On August 28 2023 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:46 marvellosity wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu was, tbh, so townie in the end.

Yeah there was sincerity.

I also feel VE’s posts were sincere even though they were useless. It doesn’t look like maf-VE defending himself tbh. Almost /because/ the posts were useless. That dumb fist bump post… I think that’s great play if he is indeed mafia… to drop that basically in total isolation? Was I lynching him for being bad after all? Completely different defence on him this time (I’m bad) vs last time (I’m just so right about vivax guys!!!)

No. (i get to do this now)

fucking disagree on every level.

We can argue about this tomorrow (possibly)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2023 12:39 GMT
#1022
On August 28 2023 21:38 DarthPunk wrote:

Yes, I am good at the game, i knew Chez was town, must be TMI lol.

Good thing to brag about knowing Chezinu was lynched.
table for two on a tv tray
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 28 2023 12:39 GMT
#1023
On August 28 2023 21:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 21:03 marvellosity wrote:
Also wagonomics wise, TTT got a lot of attention to only end up with 1 vote


Agree, it felt impossible to lynch either TBH.

But maybe that's also because I have less thread control than I usually do from my absence day 1.


I was also prehaps too stubborn. I really stuck hard on cheeze. Almost ipee got me to change with the you seem like you know he'll flip green thing.

I'll try to wind back the stubborness day two with my voting. But also I think I was voting cheese partially on policy I can't work with that. There's only room for one thread troll and it'll be me.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2023 12:40 GMT
#1024
On August 28 2023 21:37 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i have to sleep before work.
VE/LS/TTT/DP.

For now i think it doesnt get harder than that.


Look for what it's worth these are all very nebulous I agree. VE has like no reads at all in the entire day one. Looking forward to some tonight hopefully given he's got the day to save himself after not being lynched.

This is the balanced viewpoint here.

I understand rayn hates the pass I’m giving VE currently, but that’s what it is, a pass, not a hard townread. It needs to be backed up too
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 12:40 GMT
#1025
On August 28 2023 21:17 marvellosity wrote:
DP, can you (re) summarise your math points please?

I’ve gone back over his filter. It’s not stacked but at the same time there’s several points I just feel ‘natural, natural, natural’


Yeah I can, I am just trying to catch up with the load of shit rayn threw my way.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
August 28 2023 12:40 GMT
#1026
Guess I could do TTT or mathe tomorrow off Chezs own reads and DPs and a lot of other probably town people.

The Chez lynch was silly.
Today I‘m free so will do some reviewing.

Non-silent nights are nice.

Want to see what iamperfection has to say to the two. Or maybe he already did and I have to read it...Hijole
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 28 2023 12:41 GMT
#1027
I disagree on dp being bad though. If anything his problem is he almost knows too much. He reads as Green because his behaviour is all green apart from him being borderline psychic which is either great town or mafia. not bad town for sure.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2023 12:41 GMT
#1028
On August 28 2023 21:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:46 marvellosity wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu was, tbh, so townie in the end.

Yeah there was sincerity.

I also feel VE’s posts were sincere even though they were useless. It doesn’t look like maf-VE defending himself tbh. Almost /because/ the posts were useless. That dumb fist bump post… I think that’s great play if he is indeed mafia… to drop that basically in total isolation? Was I lynching him for being bad after all? Completely different defence on him this time (I’m bad) vs last time (I’m just so right about vivax guys!!!)

No. (i get to do this now)

fucking disagree on every level.

We can argue about this tomorrow (possibly)

i dont believe it.
he is too god for it. its like he would have to be very bad to even make any posts he did as town, and he still made those, it's just scum written all over the place, i dont care if it is like "oh would he do this as mafia as it is stupid", it is more like would he do this as town, and no. It's so fucking stupid no.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 12:41 GMT
#1029
On August 28 2023 21:25 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 21:22 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 18:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
"His vote is on someone who is suspicious of the other person he’s suspicious of, based on a rule he’s warning his vote target that people take seriously (although he doesn’t but also does) except no one else is taking it seriously."


Yeah I understand this, its not as clear cut as you make it out to be in my opinion.

This is my quote btw. Somewhere somehow the quotes got mixed up


Yeah ok there is a lot.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2023 12:42 GMT
#1030
kill me mafia or i will vote VE all D2.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 12:42 GMT
#1031
On August 28 2023 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 21:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 27 2023 21:55 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 27 2023 21:40 marvellosity wrote:
On August 27 2023 21:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 27 2023 21:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
On August 27 2023 21:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I didn think Vivax was trolling too much last game, and definitely didnt "just" post nonsensical stuff.


he avoided having conversation with his teammates as well. For me it's to early to see him as red

Vivax has had a comverdation basically with iamperfection and DP this game. If he is not mafia with these people fie, but how can you use that "not hving conversations with his scum partners" as a basis of a read(?), whe he hasnt basically talked with 10 otherppl?

It’s indeed a very strange post. There’s reasons for him to be either alignment, but that isn’t one of them


Isn't she clearly talking about last game?

She is saying,

1.) last game he also avoided speaking with his team mates. in addition to trolling etc.

and

2.) Its too early to see him as red.

So she isn't using it as a basis for a read.

bad



Also I don't think being open to different perspectives on posts that are written by people not speaking their native language is bad, I think it is kind, and inclusive.

You do realize you have called me bad and mafia every game that we have played this year, right?

and in exactly zero of these games have I been bad or mafia.

Something to reflect on.

and this matters how?
i am not allowed to call you mafia because i was bad before?


Im just saying, its a pattern at this point.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 12:43 GMT
#1032
On August 28 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i have to sleep before work.
VE/LS/TTT/DP.

For now i think it doesnt get harder than that.


You can't leave!

I only just caught up.

(go sleep my friend this is just a game after all)
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2023 12:44 GMT
#1033
ignore pile.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 12:44 GMT
#1034
On August 28 2023 21:37 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i have to sleep before work.
VE/LS/TTT/DP.

For now i think it doesnt get harder than that.


Look for what it's worth these are all very nebulous I agree. VE has like no reads at all in the entire day one. Looking forward to some tonight hopefully given he's got the day to save himself after not being lynched.


You just said I was town, now you agree with a scum team I am in.

Weird as fuck jake. What gives?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
August 28 2023 12:45 GMT
#1035
On August 28 2023 21:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
kill me mafia or i will vote VE all D2.


Ok if you put it like that Im down to vote with you on VE tomorrow.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 28 2023 12:46 GMT
#1036
No I said you're nebulous!

I've read you as scum the whole game, then I read the filter and I'm like damn this guy looks like a town, acts like a town and walks like a town. I don't fucking like it must be scum.

jk but that's logic brain vs emotional brain.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 28 2023 12:48 GMT
#1037
Long story short I'm not seeing anything specific just I don't like how it feels like you know everything, and that you don't seem to agree with my vibe's on others. but you def seem like town other than that basically.

You're not a mafia read anymore just nebulous.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 12:48 GMT
#1038
On August 28 2023 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 21:38 marvellosity wrote:
On August 28 2023 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:46 marvellosity wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu was, tbh, so townie in the end.

Yeah there was sincerity.

I also feel VE’s posts were sincere even though they were useless. It doesn’t look like maf-VE defending himself tbh. Almost /because/ the posts were useless. That dumb fist bump post… I think that’s great play if he is indeed mafia… to drop that basically in total isolation? Was I lynching him for being bad after all? Completely different defence on him this time (I’m bad) vs last time (I’m just so right about vivax guys!!!)

No. (i get to do this now)

fucking disagree on every level.

We can argue about this tomorrow (possibly)

i dont believe it.
he is too god for it. its like he would have to be very bad to even make any posts he did as town, and he still made those, it's just scum written all over the place, i dont care if it is like "oh would he do this as mafia as it is stupid", it is more like would he do this as town, and no. It's so fucking stupid no.


Rayn, you tend to get caught up on this stuff, like the technical points or mistakes that people should never make, but people are flawed, everyone makes mistakes or is bad sometimes, that doesn't mean they are objectively bad or mafia every time that happens.

Yes, sometimes it is meaningful, but you need to determine the meaning behind it. In this case, I tend to believe he just held both thoughts without considering that they need to be consistent, something I actually think comes from town, as they don't care about being consistent as much. They just want to solve the game.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 12:51 GMT
#1039
On August 28 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 21:38 marvellosity wrote:
On August 28 2023 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:46 marvellosity wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu was, tbh, so townie in the end.

Yeah there was sincerity.

I also feel VE’s posts were sincere even though they were useless. It doesn’t look like maf-VE defending himself tbh. Almost /because/ the posts were useless. That dumb fist bump post… I think that’s great play if he is indeed mafia… to drop that basically in total isolation? Was I lynching him for being bad after all? Completely different defence on him this time (I’m bad) vs last time (I’m just so right about vivax guys!!!)

No. (i get to do this now)

fucking disagree on every level.

We can argue about this tomorrow (possibly)

i dont believe it.
he is too god for it. its like he would have to be very bad to even make any posts he did as town, and he still made those, it's just scum written all over the place, i dont care if it is like "oh would he do this as mafia as it is stupid", it is more like would he do this as town, and no. It's so fucking stupid no.


Rayn, you tend to get caught up on this stuff, like the technical points or mistakes that people should never make, but people are flawed, everyone makes mistakes or is bad sometimes, that doesn't mean they are objectively bad or mafia every time that happens.

Yes, sometimes it is meaningful, but you need to determine the meaning behind it. In this case, I tend to believe he just held both thoughts without considering that they need to be consistent, something I actually think comes from town, as they don't care about being consistent as much. They just want to solve the game.


This is probably why we tend to be at odds a lot of the time, you assign a lot of meaning to things I just don't.

And I assign a lot of meaning to things you don't.

At the end of the day both methods of thinking and playing the game have merit.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2023 12:52 GMT
#1040
On August 28 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 21:38 marvellosity wrote:
On August 28 2023 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:46 marvellosity wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu was, tbh, so townie in the end.

Yeah there was sincerity.

I also feel VE’s posts were sincere even though they were useless. It doesn’t look like maf-VE defending himself tbh. Almost /because/ the posts were useless. That dumb fist bump post… I think that’s great play if he is indeed mafia… to drop that basically in total isolation? Was I lynching him for being bad after all? Completely different defence on him this time (I’m bad) vs last time (I’m just so right about vivax guys!!!)

No. (i get to do this now)

fucking disagree on every level.

We can argue about this tomorrow (possibly)

i dont believe it.
he is too god for it. its like he would have to be very bad to even make any posts he did as town, and he still made those, it's just scum written all over the place, i dont care if it is like "oh would he do this as mafia as it is stupid", it is more like would he do this as town, and no. It's so fucking stupid no.


Rayn, you tend to get caught up on this stuff, like the technical points or mistakes that people should never make, but people are flawed, everyone makes mistakes or is bad sometimes, that doesn't mean they are objectively bad or mafia every time that happens.

Yes, sometimes it is meaningful, but you need to determine the meaning behind it. In this case, I tend to believe he just held both thoughts without considering that they need to be consistent, something I actually think comes from town, as they don't care about being consistent as much. They just want to solve the game.

Although I have defended VE, I don’t agree with this defence. I think consistent thoughts come more naturally from town, because, well, it’s natural. It’s not normal to hold contradictory thoughts (certainly without explicitly realising them) as town, because it doesn’t make sense of the game.
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