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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2023 11:50 GMT
#961
The original case is golden.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2023 11:52 GMT
#962
Like i can see DP being susp of mathenalin as town, but VE, no fucking way it is just so detached from anything it doesnt make any sense ever in the world...

TTT is mafia tbh too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2023 11:53 GMT
#963
DP prolly just picked the wrong target eod1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2023 11:55 GMT
#964
disclaimer:

i dont have time to play almost at all for the next 4 irl days. i want this shit to unfold as much as possible today, if possible...

thank you.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2023 11:55 GMT
#965
On August 28 2023 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The original case is golden.

The original case is golden. I loved my vote more than I usually like a d1 vote. This passive defence from VE though… I will try to explain another way.

On d2 in Endures 1 after I had time to think about the lynch, VE was mafia for the Vivax push (for me anyway) because he refused to engage meaningfully with my concerns. Here he didn’t double down but used the ‘im bad’ defence. I know a lot of people hate meta, and VE is definitely smart enough to change up his play, but ‘I’m bad’ tends to be his appeal to emotion when he’s town.

So the irony is that although his posts were still not great after I left the thread, I’m a lot less happy about it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2023 11:57 GMT
#966
So you think he is town by meta?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2023 12:01 GMT
#967
I think TTT looks like mafia. There is nothing constructive going on and I read his interactions with DP and it feels (having read through all at once) that DP is probing a line of questioning and TTT is violently lashing out in return. It’s not even. Also (and I know obvs TTT has irl relationship with DP) it’s interesting to me that TTT validates DMB’s read on him, saying he can understand it, but can’t understand it coming from DP? If you really feel like you’re looking different - the reason for validating DMB’s read - then surely there should be some level of understanding for DP’s line too.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 12:01 GMT
#968
On August 28 2023 20:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
disclaimer:

i dont have time to play almost at all for the next 4 irl days. i want this shit to unfold as much as possible today, if possible...

thank you.


I'm here baby.

Marv, Rayn. Let's dance.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2023 12:02 GMT
#969
On August 28 2023 20:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you think he is town by meta?

I think I’m a lot less sure on my read than yesterday.

Can he make those posts as maf? Sure. Do they make me feel he might be town? Also yes
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 12:03 GMT
#970
On August 28 2023 16:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 16:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 16:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Idk whats the point of even trying to make a case aussies are gonna come and say youre lyncing a lurker anyways.


Did anyone say this??

Both you and TTT basically did. One of you is scum and other one dumb. That's it.


Yeah I never said this.

I call bullshit.


Rayn address this please, as I am about to spend a lot of time addressing you, it's the least you can do in return.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2023 12:03 GMT
#971
Also wagonomics wise, TTT got a lot of attention to only end up with 1 vote
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2023 12:04 GMT
#972
LS doesn’t look great for investment reasons.

Finding it hard to nail down that read as it’s hard to post normally when it’s your birthday :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2023 12:06 GMT
#973
On August 28 2023 19:04 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 18:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You're clearly talking to me like i am town, don't even try to deny it.


Have I had a day. I'll get on PC in a bit and do proper diving but dp is playing like he knows too much ngl.

I've had a consistent vibe read that he's mafia the whole game even though he is activity high and posting and doing trad town stuff which is useful. I'll have to actually do a proper read though and find out but long story short I'm back in the thread

I want to hear more about this please?

When I’m reconsidering my d1 leans you’re slap bang in the middle because I don’t really have a problem with your posting but I don’t have many clear townie signs either.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2023 12:08 GMT
#974
On August 28 2023 21:03 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 16:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 16:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 16:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Idk whats the point of even trying to make a case aussies are gonna come and say youre lyncing a lurker anyways.


Did anyone say this??

Both you and TTT basically did. One of you is scum and other one dumb. That's it.


Yeah I never said this.

I call bullshit.


Rayn address this please, as I am about to spend a lot of time addressing you, it's the least you can do in return.

I did.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2023 12:10 GMT
#975
Downgrading town lean on Vivax also. Chez called out iamp and Vivax saying ‘they should know better’. Think iamp is town though. Skimmed Vivax’s filter v quickly and I’m not sure there’s anything in there he couldn’t do as mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2023 12:10 GMT
#976
On August 28 2023 21:10 marvellosity wrote:
Downgrading town lean on Vivax also. Chez called out iamp and Vivax saying ‘they should know better’. Think iamp is town though. Skimmed Vivax’s filter v quickly and I’m not sure there’s anything in there he couldn’t do as mafia

no, vivax is town,
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2023 12:10 GMT
#977
On August 28 2023 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 21:10 marvellosity wrote:
Downgrading town lean on Vivax also. Chez called out iamp and Vivax saying ‘they should know better’. Think iamp is town though. Skimmed Vivax’s filter v quickly and I’m not sure there’s anything in there he couldn’t do as mafia

no, vivax is town,

Why
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2023 12:11 GMT
#978
Don’t say typogate
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 28 2023 12:11 GMT
#979
[image loading]



Okay I got kinda side tracked. Sister got broken into last night they stole her house keys etc so good news I'm at hers being guard dog and have internet and a computer again. but haven't been around constintantly. Will be on much more in the morning though due to it and from now.

Started filter diving and making this grid did ipee ve and myself and chezu before I got side tracked. Not sure what it means yet way to early for a paturn and I burnt out of this type of analysis anyway.

Maybe I'm red in the grid with chezu i just didn't feel like he pushed on me at all despite voting him hard and early.

Let me hit up dp and ttt now without trying to grid it just for leads.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 12:11 GMT
#980
On August 28 2023 16:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Im not upset about the lynch not going my way. I dont mind if you dont see the same way as i do since we hardly ever do at least early in the game.

Im upset about the fact you did this:

You posted a catch up post where you almost completely discard the only real case there is in the game. You only mention one marv's post offhand somewhere there when me/marv/iamp/Koshi talked about it in lengths. Like literally everything else there is is like "this is just different from game X"...


I didn't disregard it, I thought it was a good pickup, you also need to remember though, I am making a conclusion based on all the posts after that post by VE which is where I thought:
1.) he could actually hold those contradictory positions and not be mafia.
2.) his appeal to emotion/being bad whatever felt genuine and not what I would expect him to do as mafia, Like in endures 1 that guy was crazy trolling fake claiming etc, he genuinely loves playing as scum, didn't read anything but defeat from a town that feels dead and buried.

I don't think the confidence you had in it was warranted however, it was not a slam dunk read ever in my opinion.

On August 28 2023 16:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Instead you call TTT scum but then you actually decide on voting mathenalin instead. Okay. After that you start convincing TTT that TTT is scum when you should instead be trying to get people to lynch mafia if and as you dont want to lynch either Chezinu or VE.

The people around aside from TTT and you are Chezinu, Jacob, Vivax and mebaby. VE (if back) and Chezinu are going to vote for anything that is not going to be themselves. Now this bothers me;

If you really want to change the lynch from Chezinu to someone that's not VE, you are supposed to convince Vivax, because that will also most likely convince mebaby as she thinks Vivax is town already. But rather than doing that, you make some off-hand questions like "would anyone wanna change?", and continue arguing why TTT is not town... After that you even ask if TTT would switch with you lol.

Which begs the question, did you really want to change the lynch away from Chezinu?



I thought Math and TTT were better lynches and both were likely to flip scum.

I wanted to lynch chezinu over VE.

I tried to push TTT when I saw that DMB was on him and would not swap, but there was no traction, it was never going to happen, particularly with Perfection a very vocal proponent of the Chez lynch,

And i thought lynching chez would at least, clear the thread of the tunnelling, the memeing, AI etc a bit so was healthy for the game even if he was town.

But yeah, I think this is all clear when you read the events. Not sure why it's not clear to you TBH.




"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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