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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 14:42 GMT
#321
Why is marv LS whisperer??
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 14:43 GMT
#322
Can you explain, marv why what i said about LS shouldnt ske him mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 14:43 GMT
#323
Ske = make,

I hate playing on phone..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 14:47 GMT
#326
On August 25 2023 23:44 iamperfection wrote:
Im not getting huge scum vibes from LS early vibes. I felt the same thing about his forced ai point about jacob. Since i had already made those jokes sort of before the game and at the start.

So why does a player who plays only by meta early on contradict his own meta read on someone?

Do tou have an answer for that for a townie?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 14:53 GMT
#329
On August 25 2023 23:51 iamperfection wrote:
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On August 25 2023 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2023 23:44 iamperfection wrote:
Im not getting huge scum vibes from LS early vibes. I felt the same thing about his forced ai point about jacob. Since i had already made those jokes sort of before the game and at the start.

So why does a player who plays only by meta early on contradict his own meta read on someone?

Do tou have an answer for that for a townie?

is that even true. Seems like a flawed way to play to me. I doubt its true.

Are you reading the game?
If you are you should be able to tell if its true or not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 14:54 GMT
#330
I can tell you though that 95% of LS reads are based purelyon meta, when he is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 15:00 GMT
#333
On August 25 2023 23:46 Koshi wrote:
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On August 25 2023 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2023 23:05 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Particularly:
"Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia."
"Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?"
"Nope not that I remember"

He believes I wouldnt openly want to get lynched as mafia.
He believes I never openly said I want to get lynched as either alignment.

There is no contradiction.

We have to agree to disagree here then. Because what i see is a player who bases their reads (especially early on) fully and completely to meta. The first post would be fine if he just said "i dont think Koshi would want to get lynched as mafia like this", but instead he bases it on a meta on Koshi where Koshi has never wanted to be lynched as mafia. This does not go well with the fact that his meta suggests that "Koshi doesn't do that as any alignment". Aka it should be a null tell for him, and especially the first post he made suggesests that he should not have that conclusion about Koshi's alignment based on what he gives as a reasoning.

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On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.

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On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.

LS was mafia in my last game and I wouldn't have guessed it on D1. So I will take your read in consideration but to me it seems he makes a meta read that I wouldn't do it as mafia. Not because I never did it, but that I wouldn't do it based on my previous playstyle as mafia.

He also elaborated it like that when pressed so story checks out.

He made the read because its not your mafia!meta.
Whwn questioned, he said its not your town!meta either.

If honest, he should not read you anything because his meta suggests a null!read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 15:04 GMT
#337
What did he say then? Becausethats what i read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 15:06 GMT
#338
Idk i have to go theough this all again when i hve access to computer.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 15:10 GMT
#339
I would appreciate if you three, koshi/marv/iamp would get on the same page on this, because i value all of your opinion if youre town (and it would be telling if youre not). Because right now:
- marv understands point, says it doesnt make LS mafia
- koshi says LS disnt do it at all
- iamp doesnt understand point
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 15:15 GMT
#343
My point is:
- LSreada people by meta
- LS read Koshi based on meta that is insufficent
- LS should know this as he reads people by meta, aka as if i go through thread checking for inconsistancies of thinking, LS goes through past games checking whats comparable or not to this game
- LS sefintely didnt do this properly at all
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 15:22 GMT
#345
On August 26 2023 00:17 Koshi wrote:
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On August 26 2023 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My point is:
- LSreada people by meta
- LS read Koshi based on meta that is insufficent
- LS should know this as he reads people by meta, aka as if i go through thread checking for inconsistancies of thinking, LS goes through past games checking whats comparable or not to this game
- LS sefintely didnt do this properly at all

How do you not understand that not having done something does not remove the fact somebody would more likely do x over y.

I completely understand that, however LS didnt say that at all in the first post, whoch he should have done if he thought that genuinely.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 15:24 GMT
#346
If he said "i dont think Koshi would do this more likely as mafia than as town and as he has not done this as mafia ever i think he is town" in first place, i would be completely fine with the read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 15:29 GMT
#350
On August 26 2023 00:26 Koshi wrote:
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On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he wouldnt do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.

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On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.

@rayn: I changed a word. Would that have be fine? Or does this still makes LS mafia?

No. Not for LS. His level of explaing his reads is way above that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 15:31 GMT
#351
But okay, you can talk about something else.
We'll see later.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 18:03 GMT
#356
!eporuE olleH
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 18:14 GMT
#357
marv what's your read on iamp and if you don't have any, do you think you should have one based on his posting?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 18:22 GMT
#359
On August 26 2023 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what's your read on iamp and if you don't have any, do you think you should have one based on his posting?

what a stupid question after the initial one lol :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 18:55 GMT
#368
Oh that was the weird question i couldn't find anymore.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 19:12 GMT
#370
Well i guess i am just waiting for Vivax and mebaby making their real openers then.
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