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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 07 2023 12:09 GMT
#30
/in
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 08 2023 21:12 GMT
#46
I won't spam a lot in this game, maybe.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 03:28 GMT
#67
A wild copcakekerino is here!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 03:33 GMT
#69
I will just assume that is a copypaste from chatgpt
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 05:54 GMT
#150
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 06:07 GMT
#156
On June 09 2023 15:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
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On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


i want to lynch Koshi. Is it possible to lynch co host?


You want to lynch all the hosts?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 06:29 GMT
#172
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 06:30 GMT
#173
On June 09 2023 15:28 DarthPunk wrote:
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On June 09 2023 15:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So okay DP.

In my opinion you asking me who to lynch right now only really makes sense if you think i should have or could have a scum read based on something in the game. Did you think i should have a scumread at that point of the game and if yes, then who would that be and why? If you don't, why did you ask the question -- and furthermore why did you try to "force" me to answer when i clearly said i can't answer at that point?


Tbh this is a normal way to start the game. Of course we can´t know already who is who or if somebody make scum or not. Its imposible to manage it in the first 10 posts of the game and just 3-4 players are active right now. But how else should the game get started. It seems like a normal questing to just ignore chez and slam usually meme/troll posts. Somebody has to make a start here and this is just a normal way. Only second game here but seems normal to me (for now)


This.


Not always, mafia can pretend to “scumhunt” and engage conversation.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 06:33 GMT
#177
On June 09 2023 15:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
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On June 09 2023 15:16 Chezinu wrote:
The morning arrived, casting a soft glow upon the world as I stepped outside, my heart pounding with anticipation. Today was the day I would confront my fears head-on, the day I would open the letter waiting patiently in my mailbox and lower the red flag that had taunted me for so long.

Approaching the mailbox, I took a deep breath, mustering every ounce of courage within me. With trembling hands, I unlatched the lid, revealing the solitary envelope resting inside. It was as if the letter held a hidden power, a secret that could change everything.

Gingerly, I withdrew the envelope from its enclosure, feeling the weight of its contents in my grasp. The paper felt delicate, as if it held a multitude of untold stories within its fibers. The Master's rules echoed in my mind once more, reminding me not to reveal anything personal about the sender.

I carefully slit the envelope open, revealing the neatly folded letter contained within. Unfolding it, I held my breath, unsure of what I would find. The words that met my eyes were unexpected, a departure from the sterile nature of my usual deliveries.

"Dear Courier, I know the burden you carry. The fear, the isolation. But remember, there is strength in unity, even in the face of an oppressive regime. Do not let the Master's control extinguish your spirit. Take solace in the small acts of rebellion, for they hold the power to ignite change. Lower the red flag today, reclaim your freedom. Together, we can defy the chains that bind us."

As I read those words, a surge of hope coursed through my veins. It was as if the sender had understood my turmoil, my yearning for connection and liberation. Their message was a call to action, a rallying cry that resonated deep within me.

Determined, I closed the letter and slipped it back into the envelope. The weight of the Master's gaze and the consequences of my actions paled in comparison to the flicker of rebellion that had ignited within me. Today, I would defy the Master's control, even if only in a small, symbolic act.

With renewed purpose, I reached up and gently lowered the red flag, its descent a defiance against the oppressive grip of the Master. The symbolic act sent a surge of exhilaration through me, a sense of liberation that I hadn't felt in so long.

The raised red flag had represented fear and subservience, but now, as it stood lowered, it became a beacon of hope, a symbol of resilience and the possibility of change. I had taken a step towards reclaiming my identity, towards forging a path of my own in the face of an oppressive regime.

As I closed the mailbox, a newfound sense of empowerment filled me. The journey ahead would not be easy, but I had found allies, kindred spirits in the shadows. Together, we would continue to resist, to sow the seeds of rebellion, and to fight for a future where personal connections and individuality were celebrated.

With each step I took on my mail courier route that day, I carried with me the words of the sender. They fueled my determination, reminding me that I was not alone in my struggles. I would continue to deliver the unsealed letters, but now, I would also carry within me the invisible threads that connected us, the whispers of unity and defiance against the Master's oppressive rule.


Artificial Intelligence (AI) chatbots have become increasingly popular in the gaming industry. These chatbots are designed to simulate human conversation and provide players with a more immersive experience. However, using AI chatbots in games is not a way to play cool.

Firstly, AI chatbots lack the emotional intelligence that humans possess. They cannot understand sarcasm or irony and often provide generic responses that do not add value to the gaming experience. This can lead to frustration and disappointment for players who expect more from their interactions with NPCs.

Secondly, relying on AI chatbots takes away from the social aspect of gaming. One of the most enjoyable aspects of playing games is interacting with other players and building relationships. Using AI chatbots instead of real people diminishes this experience and can lead to feelings of isolation.

Lastly, using AI chatbots in games perpetuates the idea that technology is superior to human interaction. It promotes a culture where people are encouraged to rely on machines instead of developing meaningful relationships with others.

In conclusion, while AI chatbots may seem like a cool addition to games, they ultimately detract from the overall experience by lacking emotional intelligence, diminishing social interaction, and promoting reliance on technology over human connection. Using AI should be a ban


This is chatgpt for that “In conclusion” opening of the last paragraph lmao


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 06:34 GMT
#179
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


Why is slam town?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 06:41 GMT
#186
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 07:38 GMT
#196
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 07:39 GMT
#197
On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?


I literally went to have lunch
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 07:48 GMT
#204
On June 09 2023 15:34 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


Why is slam town?



This is what i needed an answer for so I could go deeper @rayn
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 07:50 GMT
#205
And I believed you quote me .-. Because I didnt answer asap when I was doing TM
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 07:58 GMT
#207
On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master


There is a thing people call “meta” that is a pattern how a participant plays when he/she is mafia or town.

I think from experience, for example, that slam tends to be more town when he is easy going. But ofc you should not consider this as a “complete” read because actions speak louder and those reads can change.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 08:01 GMT
#211
On June 09 2023 16:59 marvellosity wrote:
What are you talking about, Copcake?


???????
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 08:03 GMT
#213
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


- someone else -

Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.

Is this hard to understand?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 08:04 GMT
#215
On June 09 2023 17:02 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 16:58 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master


There is a thing people call “meta” that is a pattern how a participant plays when he/she is mafia or town.

I think from experience, for example, that slam tends to be more town when he is easy going. But ofc you should not consider this as a “complete” read because actions speak louder and those reads can change.


He was easy going Last game and you read him town in obs for it and he flipped maf so….


No, early game i called him maf and even grack was like “interesting you read him like that” so dont try to manipulate the story.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 08:12 GMT
#220
On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


- someone else -

Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.

Is this hard to understand?


You do t understand clearly.

I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol.

But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info.


I understand, and I explained that the question I needed an answer for was why is slam town so I could know if your reads have some sort of substance or not.

Because to - me - it looks like you wanted rayn reads to base yours in the future with that. I need to actually check last game and see if rayn asked you right away when there was only like 3 persons and 7 posts to - force you - have reads. :D
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 08:17 GMT
#221
On June 09 2023 17:03 marvellosity wrote:
Blimey. Why don’t you just tell us whatever it is you think you were getting at?


I wanted to understand why he was “forcing rayn”

But the “lunch” case was a missunderstanding of my part, because I am also playing terraforming mars with rayn and I believed he was questioning me why I was active there and not here.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 08:29 GMT
#226
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 08:30 GMT
#228
On June 09 2023 17:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
@Copcake
So just to see if I get it right.
DP starts seriously the game with question to Rayn.
Rayn gets little emotional here (maybe more than he should) and defense himself, where is nothing to defense, because it was just a question.
Slam is meme posting here like last game. Little bit more than last game.
Chez is Chez. I still don't know if he is actually human.
Vivax just lazy as always. Posting not to much obviously want to player longer than last time. Use save option but can't see anything thing suspect.
Marv coming later and just ask questions as DP did in the beginning.
CC is directly suspect of DP. Marv ask questions too but is not suspect for Cc and Rayn got already a townread from you


What is the question here for me?

And now that I am here, what do you think of this dp vs copcake?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 08:30 GMT
#229
On June 09 2023 17:26 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 16:39 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?


I literally went to have lunch


What did you have for lunch ?


Cake!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 12:18 GMT
#302
I am baaackkkkk
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 12:26 GMT
#306
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


Why are you treating me as if I was retarded? I have read your posts and Rayn's case, which you "ooof" is dumb because I believed he was asking me something else. He was putting pressure because you answered, but my question to go "deeper" was why you think slam is town, so I could get an idea from which angle you are trying to read people. Because me not knowing you were mimicking rayn question from the last game makes it look like you are a scum trying to have an idea of what a strong player thinks and start to craft from there.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 12:30 GMT
#310
On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


- someone else -

Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.

Is this hard to understand?


You do t understand clearly.

I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol.

But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info.


So, how it is operating in good faith?, not questioning you perhaps?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 12:31 GMT
#312
I think, and HOPE that clarifies the whole lunch and cake can't read what Dart posted btw.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
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June 09 2023 12:35 GMT
#315
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 12:36 GMT
#316
I am going by phases lol I can't answer everything fast!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
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June 09 2023 12:43 GMT
#323
On June 09 2023 18:29 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:04 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:58 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master


There is a thing people call “meta” that is a pattern how a participant plays when he/she is mafia or town.

I think from experience, for example, that slam tends to be more town when he is easy going. But ofc you should not consider this as a “complete” read because actions speak louder and those reads can change.


He was easy going Last game and you read him town in obs for it and he flipped maf so….


No, early game i called him maf and even grack was like “interesting you read him like that” so dont try to manipulate the story.


Err... Just gonna pipe in here. Copcake you switched on and off slam many times during the course of obs QT. You did cite him being relaxed a lot iirc, but your read was not nearly as simple as thinking him scum D1 then green reading him for being relaxed.

So both you and DP way oversimplified it.


I called Slam mafia before the vivax lynch, I mentioned also his reaction to him being doctor was weird and lack of emotion, very robotic, etc. Later I believed he was town because DP and you looked more scum and there was the thing that I painted the scenario that chezinu was cop and cleared him.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 12:44 GMT
#324
On June 09 2023 21:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
[quote]

But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


- someone else -

Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.

Is this hard to understand?


You do t understand clearly.

I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol.

But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info.


So, how it is operating in good faith?, not questioning you perhaps?


Because the questions you are asking are answered by reading the thread, because I have clearly explained and responded to those questions.

tbh she was asking you why you think Slam is town, and mostly that, and i had the same concern at the time, so i don't think that's a good basis for a scumread.


Im not scum reading her for that, I'm scum reading her because she wont explain her town read on you that was super early and super strong and when she did explain it doesn;t even make sense.

The whole premise of her arguments from the beginning relies on you being town, so why was it so hard for her to explain a good reason for you to be town? Especially when in the obs thread a meta of her being suspicious of you exists.

Further, all the questions she asked had already been answered in the thread, so she was either asking those questions having not read my answers, or she was operating in bad faith because she was mafia.,

Those two factors are enough at this juncture.

##Vote: Copcake


This is like an absolute lie
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 12:47 GMT
#330
On June 09 2023 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem with Cake is that every time i am town and she is following the game she thinks i am mafia, i have a hard time imagining she genuinely has a town read on me right now.


After last game when I called you mafia irl and you were town I decided not to do that anymore.

When was the last time we both were town and I called you mafia?

Because if I remember correctly :D you have been mafia a lot until last game.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 12:48 GMT
#331
On June 09 2023 21:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway like I said before the role PMS were posted going to be posting less this game, look forward to some clarity on that super early rayn town read by copcake that forms the lynchpin of basically every post she has made subsequently.

Goodnight.


Dude, do you even know how much I post per game?

This is nothing lol
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 12:48 GMT
#332
Like you have a meta read on me when you don't even know me.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 12:49 GMT
#333
Tell me darth, how much do I post per game to know what is too little or too much? :D
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 12:51 GMT
#339
On June 09 2023 21:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
[quote]

The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


- someone else -

Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.

Is this hard to understand?


You do t understand clearly.

I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol.

But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info.


So, how it is operating in good faith?, not questioning you perhaps?


Because the questions you are asking are answered by reading the thread, because I have clearly explained and responded to those questions.

So my only assumption is that either:

1.) you have not read or understood the thread

or

2.) You have read and understood and are not operating in good faith

And BTW it has been hours and you have repeatedly ignored the question I have asked about why you think Rayn was town so early in the game, particularly when rayn said in the OBS thread from last game you always think he is scummy.



No by the time, you didn't answer my slam question which I needed, so you are just fabricating a scenario here.

I invite EVERYONE to read my filter.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 12:59 GMT
#345
On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hey DP can we get clarification on your use of the term "good faith" so we're all on the same page because I've seen it used multiple ways and seen a lot of people get confused by its different uses.

Do you just mean honest?

@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable. Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread?


The post being questioned is #186, let's called it "rayn's push".

What I needed was to know how he was reading slam. Darth answered that on #187.

So someone explain me how he answered me in #186 if the answered I needed was in #187?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:01 GMT
#346
On June 09 2023 15:34 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


Why is slam town?



Like this was my question which darth didn't answer until #187
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:03 GMT
#348
So if Darth was a "super cool" town player, instead of jumping to me and look for clarification, he just saw a opportunity to a misslynch when rayn pointed that out (he thinking darth answered me already)

Like, as town, you go and double check if things are correct
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:10 GMT
#350
Btw if you have question towards me, go ahead.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:11 GMT
#351
And sorry, I understood he was also making a case on me for saying I would post less <_<
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:14 GMT
#353
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:16 GMT
#356
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:17 GMT
#358
And I also said that after last game in which I was obvs I would be less paranoid of you :D
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:21 GMT
#359
On June 09 2023 22:16 TankTopTiger wrote:
For me, the main thing is why you have a town read on Rayn when that contradicts your meta of suspecting him. This meta is demonstrated in obs QT for endurance II, is evidenced by Rayn's report of your usual MO, and is expected based on your match history together of him being scum often (betrayal breeds suspicion not blind trust).

All this other stuff is squabbling compared to that. IMO your answer to this question will likely decide whether you live to see the night.


There is this thing that Rayn has rolled mafia A LOT.

Last game we were both mafia together.

And last game I was town and he mafia, he was very aggressive if I recall correctly.

There is also the stupid, "I am the cop, you idiot"

Like, idr a game in which both of us have been town.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:22 GMT
#362
Wait, when we were town together was that game when town ate each other, idr if when chezinu was mafia he was mafia with him.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:27 GMT
#365
On June 09 2023 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:21 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:16 TankTopTiger wrote:
For me, the main thing is why you have a town read on Rayn when that contradicts your meta of suspecting him. This meta is demonstrated in obs QT for endurance II, is evidenced by Rayn's report of your usual MO, and is expected based on your match history together of him being scum often (betrayal breeds suspicion not blind trust).

All this other stuff is squabbling compared to that. IMO your answer to this question will likely decide whether you live to see the night.


There is this thing that Rayn has rolled mafia A LOT.

Last game we were both mafia together.

And last game I was town and he mafia, he was very aggressive if I recall correctly.

There is also the stupid, "I am the cop, you idiot"

Like, idr a game in which both of us have been town.

Holy Guardian Cht3 both you guys were town O.o


Was that the one chezinu was mafia?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:28 GMT
#366
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry

have i done that before or where do you get that idea?


Yes, you have.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:31 GMT
#372
The only thing I remember from that game is truffle, chezinu being mafia posting a shit ton of videos and VE and me being the only ones calling chezinu being a bad guy.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:32 GMT
#374
On June 09 2023 22:30 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


Copcake is altering the narrative the slam question was asked and answered when I stated she was operating in bad faith.

It was about why I asked Rayn which was stated in the thread in the beginning the slam shit was never involved in this discussion. She just found the one question I didn’t answer immediately and used it out of context


Literally, question was asked in #179 I think and you answered in #187...
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:34 GMT
#379
On June 09 2023 22:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:28 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry

have i done that before or where do you get that idea?


Yes, you have.


He did get emotional and angry, Marv even pointed this out in the thread so how does this make any sense.



???? What ?????

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:39 GMT
#383
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)

But you actually answered slam in #187.

So why did you answer that before?

I do believe #186 goes before #187.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:39 GMT
#384
How*
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:41 GMT
#385
I think that when rayn started to question me, you just jumped to get a misslynch. REALLY, I am asking you, if you are town, to check and read the filter, i think it is on page 12 for getting more flow ~,you didn't answer the slam question before #187.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:46 GMT
#393
#CAKEISNOTLYING2023

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:49 GMT
#396
On June 09 2023 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:39 CopCake wrote:
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)

But you actually answered slam in #187.

So why did you answer that before?

I do believe #186 goes before #187.

I just checked this more into detail and yep he finally answered your question in #187 regarding his read on Slam.

I think it is some other questions DP is saying Cake is asking whihc he had answered already.


Which is that?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:49 GMT
#398
I am sorry
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 18:04 GMT
#426
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?


His push feels forced, I don't understand why he thinks he got a case when I explained the error of the question.

I am certified, healthy, copcake.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 18:36 GMT
#429
On June 09 2023 22:55 TankTopTiger wrote:
Yeah I think everyone's posting a bit fast instead of taking their time, and it's making everything super confusing. I'm constantly double-taking from the misinterpretations which seem honest but unproductive.

If you want people to actually understand what happened, you need to quote the posts, in order, and probably summarise how they fit into what you're claiming.

Because I really tried to check the posts you're mentioning but I just don't understand, and I doubt other people do either.

It's not enough to be right, you need to clearly communicate why you're right.



I am going to start from the beginning
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


This is me interrogating Darth, post #174 page 9 (You can go from there and see the flow if you want)

He asked me what I think, but I needed a specific question to be answered, about reading slam because in my opinion, he really is acting very differently from last game.

On June 09 2023 15:34 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


Why is slam town?




On June 09 2023 15:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:34 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


Why is slam town?



Why don't you answer my question, and then I will answer this one.


Then he demands me to answer his question, totally fair

On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.[/QUOTE]

On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


So if you see, DP and me were talking civilian, in this order.

Then I got busy at work, then went to have a small lunch break and went to play my other game, then Rayn pointed out this:
On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?


Which I believed he was telling me that DP answered me, and in my MIND I believed he was telling me to answer asap (because I was online on another web) which I was like, hey I just went to lunch!

But the problem here, is that DP liked THAT case, and called it "oooooffff you are right rayn cake mafia", when Rayn actually quotes something DP hasn't answered.

If you were DP, and town, and you know Rayn made a mistake, wouldn't you clarify that or would you just JUMP and try to start a train over a misunderstanding?

I hope I am being clear here.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 18:44 GMT
#430
On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote:
Had a nice nap after almost being choked to death in my sleep tonight.

On a partial reread, I could do a DP lynch. Maybe even a rayn one. DP basically takes LS post at face value and instatowns it while it‘s far from apparent how it makes him town and that doesn‘t change when I point out he‘s copied it. His questions to rayn at times seem fabricated and you can observe how he nudges rayn into interacting with him for the purpose of manipulating him into voting Cake.

I‘d also add that the way rayn followed into DPs footsteps in regards to Cake felt forced and hedgy.

Overall I don‘t really see what they saw aside from Cake using lunch as an excuse which to me seems like a silly reason to base the entire read on.

With that in mind and them not giving off the same energy as last game where at least rayn seemed like an easy townlean, Cake gets my axe for wagonomical reasons til I get to decide if rayn isn‘t a better lynch for the way he got smacked into submission by DP.

##Vote DarthPunk

Something about Ttts entrance also rubbed me the wrong way as it felt like they were evaluating the dp-cop interaction from the sidelines as an opener that suggested they wanted to play it safe.


I disagree, I think he was being some sort of moderator and called out us both equally.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 19:01 GMT
#433
On June 10 2023 03:59 Hapahauli wrote:
Cake, have you played with DP before?


Not that I remember, at least not here.

I was obvs in last game and saw him play.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 20:41 GMT
#466
Explain me the chezinu thing

Is it only because he voted vivax?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 20:55 GMT
#475
At 21:21 he voted vivax

At 05:07 he put that in red?

🤔

I believed he was pointing out phrases he consider mafia in the Happa quote?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 20:57 GMT
#477
Like what makes MZ look bad for using “probably” etc
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 21:00 GMT
#481
Chezinu hasn't seen Harry Potter it seems
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 21:05 GMT
#486
On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier:
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On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?


Do you think it was w vs w or a town vs wolf?

If the last, who was the most town?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 21:08 GMT
#495
On June 10 2023 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 10 2023 06:05 CopCake wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier:
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?


Do you think it was w vs w or a town vs wolf?

If the last, who was the most town?

closer to Mafia vs Town type of deal (Or Wolf vs Town since you know Werewolf better i think?) In that case I have no idea at the moment to be honest.


If you think is closer to town vs mafia, isn't it because you think one looks more "innocent" than the other?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 21:14 GMT
#504
On June 10 2023 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS + Cake + idk ez game


Why am I even mafia?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 21:16 GMT
#509
I don't want to make the same mistake <_< as I didn't in endurance
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 21:19 GMT
#513
LS

what is different with my interactions with rayn or ttt than with darth?

I know you think I look more "town" because I didn't lie but couldn't my interaction with rayn also be "forced"?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 21:26 GMT
#522
On June 10 2023 06:22 Chezinu wrote:
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On June 10 2023 06:12 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 05:37 Chezinu wrote:
On June 10 2023 04:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 04:19 Chezinu wrote:
Can someone post some AI drawings of mafia Walruses so we can see what they look like on a line up?

[image loading]

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Note. These are Walruses and Mafia. Not to be mistaken with the creatures that people go clubbing for.


Chezinu are you writing that ?


It all started out pretty normal...
[image loading]


But then I started taking notes..
[image loading]





There is "Jadi" and a mouse laying balancing a cup with his nose and a penis in the notes?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 21:36 GMT
#527
Ok, now I am legit confused
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 23:15 GMT
#546
I know that what LS said was pretty scummy but I feel like he is emotionally involved in this game compared to Endurance II (I went to check his filter) and I see a lot of excuses “sorry I slept, sorry my aunt this, sorry was busy”, but here he seems excited, even participating before and meeting and posting right after it finished.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 23:15 GMT
#547
Endurance I*

I am phone posting ring ring
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 23:21 GMT
#548
On June 09 2023 22:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I should of said this pre game but will be gone for like 30 minutes in 1.5 hours due to taking care of school stuff.


Not work. School, my mistake.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 10 2023 08:58 GMT
#638
On June 10 2023 08:54 TankTopTiger wrote:
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On June 10 2023 03:36 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:55 TankTopTiger wrote:
Yeah I think everyone's posting a bit fast instead of taking their time, and it's making everything super confusing. I'm constantly double-taking from the misinterpretations which seem honest but unproductive.

If you want people to actually understand what happened, you need to quote the posts, in order, and probably summarise how they fit into what you're claiming.

Because I really tried to check the posts you're mentioning but I just don't understand, and I doubt other people do either.

It's not enough to be right, you need to clearly communicate why you're right.



I am going to start from the beginning
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


This is me interrogating Darth, post #174 page 9 (You can go from there and see the flow if you want)

He asked me what I think, but I needed a specific question to be answered, about reading slam because in my opinion, he really is acting very differently from last game.

On June 09 2023 15:34 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


Why is slam town?




On June 09 2023 15:35 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:34 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


Why is slam town?



Why don't you answer my question, and then I will answer this one.


Then he demands me to answer his question, totally fair

On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


So if you see, DP and me were talking civilian, in this order.

Then I got busy at work, then went to have a small lunch break and went to play my other game, then Rayn pointed out this:
On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?


Which I believed he was telling me that DP answered me, and in my MIND I believed he was telling me to answer asap (because I was online on another web) which I was like, hey I just went to lunch!

But the problem here, is that DP liked THAT case, and called it "oooooffff you are right rayn cake mafia", when Rayn actually quotes something DP hasn't answered.

If you were DP, and town, and you know Rayn made a mistake, wouldn't you clarify that or would you just JUMP and try to start a train over a misunderstanding?

I hope I am being clear here.


Sorry, can you spell it out for me, what is the question DP hasn't answered that Rayn quoted?
What is the mistake that Rayn made that DP knew about?


Why slam is mafia.

It is weird now that LS understood but you didnt.

Who else has this problem about the copcake - dp?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 10 2023 09:29 GMT
#640
Ok, this is bullshit, specially the “copcake doesnt read rayn as mafia therefore she is mafia muhahahahaaha”

Honestly, I have answered this, I said that after what happened last game, which my 6th sense told me “rayn is mafia” I decided not to make the same mistake IN GAME.

What is the best thing a town cake needs to do?
Correct her mistakes and play better.

My focus on DP went how fast he jumped on me with the “ooofff” comment.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 10 2023 09:35 GMT
#641
I am even reading the obsq and I didnt call rayn mafia that much as I remember I tend to do? And rayn isnt even alive that much.

Besides my rule is if rayn is alive for day 3 is mafia. But that was like a long time ago.

@DP @TTT tell me in which games I have been town and rayn town to make the conclusion that I am extreme paranoid of him?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 10 2023 09:36 GMT
#643
I dont understand why my whoooooooleeeee personality is based on a obsq. Just one. As if it was a fact forever.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 10 2023 09:38 GMT
#645
No, you are trying to make a narrative, the order is there.

Btw are you asking me why I didnt read rayn mafia because of the “ooofff good catch”?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 10 2023 09:42 GMT
#646
On June 10 2023 18:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Confusion and misrepresentation are the traits of mafia.


This is not a 100% fact.

Remember how bad you called marv mafia because LS mentioned him so many times?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 10 2023 09:42 GMT
#647
You mention absolute laws to fit narratives on your reads.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 10 2023 21:59 GMT
#820
I am heeereeee (for a while)
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 10 2023 22:30 GMT
#861
On June 10 2023 22:57 DarthPunk wrote:
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On June 10 2023 22:47 Vivax wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:47 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:39 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?


I literally went to have lunch

I dont understand what having lunch has anything with this. You asked him if he had gathered some information, which he just posted in the post you quoted.


Oooff

this is good actually.


On June 10 2023 16:36 DarthPunk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Catch up post:

(I have been following the thread on my phone but I am using the 2 hours free time I have now to post in more detail.)

On June 09 2023 21:48 CopCake wrote:
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On June 09 2023 21:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway like I said before the role PMS were posted going to be posting less this game, look forward to some clarity on that super early rayn town read by copcake that forms the lynchpin of basically every post she has made subsequently.

Goodnight.


Dude, do you even know how much I post per game?

This is nothing lol


On June 09 2023 21:49 CopCake wrote:
Tell me darth, how much do I post per game to know what is too little or too much? :D


These posts make me think the cop cake stuff could just be a comprehension issue. I was clearly talking about myself posting less.

It does make me concerned that someone is calling someone out without reading/understanding? their filter cause I had talked about this on the front page as well.

On June 09 2023 21:51 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 09 2023 21:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hey DP can we get clarification on your use of the term "good faith" so we're all on the same page because I've seen it used multiple ways and seen a lot of people get confused by its different uses.

Do you just mean honest?

@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable. Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread?

I fucking like this guy!

Ya this cements how I was reading him to be honest.


This post is scummy to me, but I think LS has posted so much more this game than last, MZ states later that this could be a reaction to his failings as scum in the prior game, and that could be true, but do people adjust so fast? can LS adjust that fast? I'm not sure, following the thread I feel better about LS than last game at this point I guess?

I think he might just post in a way that is traditionally scummy. the real thing to look for is engagement levels, and they seem to be higher, but I also don't see him analysing things or scum hunting. Is LS able to do those things as town?

On June 09 2023 21:51 TankTopTiger wrote:
FWIW I don't care at all for any argument based on post-count, I'd ignore if for now if DP doesn't expand upon it.


Find it weird that TTT did not read the post properly either.


On June 09 2023 21:51 CopCake wrote:
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On June 09 2023 21:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


- someone else -

Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.

Is this hard to understand?


You do t understand clearly.

I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol.

But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info.


So, how it is operating in good faith?, not questioning you perhaps?


Because the questions you are asking are answered by reading the thread, because I have clearly explained and responded to those questions.

So my only assumption is that either:

1.) you have not read or understood the thread

or

2.) You have read and understood and are not operating in good faith

And BTW it has been hours and you have repeatedly ignored the question I have asked about why you think Rayn was town so early in the game, particularly when rayn said in the OBS thread from last game you always think he is scummy.



No by the time, you didn't answer my slam question which I needed, so you are just fabricating a scenario here.

I invite EVERYONE to read my filter.


Yep, either willful ignorance or straight up ignorant (see my big post on the matter)

On June 09 2023 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 09 2023 22:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:32 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:28 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
[quote]

Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry

have i done that before or where do you get that idea?


Yes, you have.


He did get emotional and angry, Marv even pointed this out in the thread so how does this make any sense.


getting emotional and angry is different than getting someone else emotional and angry.
and i didn't even get e/a. Now i am starting to for this shit.


Oh ok I misread never mind

wtf? how can you misread "getting someone angry" into "getting angry"?
Do you think i was getting angry or are you just sheeping marv's shit?


How you ask? Its midnight, I'm phone posting in bed and I was drunk.

I wasn't sheeping marvs shit, I was saying, if Marv thought that, it would be reasonable for others to also think this, but yeah just misread it. Lol.

On June 09 2023 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 09 2023 22:39 CopCake wrote:
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)

But you actually answered slam in #187.

So why did you answer that before?

I do believe #186 goes before #187.

I just checked this more into detail and yep he finally answered your question in #187 regarding his read on Slam.


On June 09 2023 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
This Copcake vs Darth stuff is making my head spin -.-


These two posts are absolutely not aligned, first is 'look i am participating I get whats happening' second is "yeah so confusing."

Actually LS is sheeping rayn hard

On June 09 2023 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
that being said the thing between DP and Cake is so convoluted i can't comprehend even when reading their filters... Make it easier to understand if you think one is mafia pls.



Then

On June 09 2023 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
This Copcake vs Darth stuff is making my head spin -.-


Like rayn is clearly trying to get somewhere in the mess, LS is just trying to be part of it without actually adding things?

On June 09 2023 22:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:39 CopCake wrote:
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)

But you actually answered slam in #187.

So why did you answer that before?

I do believe #186 goes before #187.

I just checked this more into detail and yep he finally answered your question in #187 regarding his read on Slam.

I think it is some other questions DP is saying Cake is asking whihc he had answered already.

That has to be the only explanation otherwise this just shitting up the thread for very little reason. Again this is making my head spin -.-


More rayn sheep. Pretty gross.


This post by Vivax is WILD!


On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote:
Had a nice nap after almost being choked to death in my sleep tonight.

On a partial reread, I could do a DP lynch. Maybe even a rayn one. DP basically takes LS post at face value and instatowns it while it‘s far from apparent how it makes him town and that doesn‘t change when I point out he‘s copied it. His questions to rayn at times seem fabricated and you can observe how he nudges rayn into interacting with him for the purpose of manipulating him into voting Cake.

I‘d also add that the way rayn followed into DPs footsteps in regards to Cake felt forced and hedgy.

Overall I don‘t really see what they saw aside from Cake using lunch as an excuse which to me seems like a silly reason to base the entire read on.

With that in mind and them not giving off the same energy as last game where at least rayn seemed like an easy townlean, Cake gets my axe for wagonomical reasons til I get to decide if rayn isn‘t a better lynch for the way he got smacked into submission by DP.

##Vote DarthPunk

Something about Ttts entrance also rubbed me the wrong way as it felt like they were evaluating the dp-cop interaction from the sidelines as an opener that suggested they wanted to play it safe.



On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote:
On a partial reread, I could do a DP lynch. Maybe even a rayn one. DP basically takes LS post at face value and instatowns it while it‘s far from apparent how it makes him town and that doesn‘t change when I point out he‘s copied it.


This partis just straight up untrue. I never town read LS on face value, I call that post out for feeling crafted, and guess what, Copypasta. It was.


On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote:
His questions to rayn at times seem fabricated and you can observe how he nudges rayn into interacting with him for the purpose of manipulating him into voting Cake.


What questions? the one I did at the start of the game to get shit going? no idea what this means TBH

On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote:
Overall I don‘t really see what they saw aside from Cake using lunch as an excuse which to me seems like a silly reason to base the entire read on.


I never mentioned her lunch. the thing we both saw was a narrative of suspicions cast at me which relied on a super early town read of rayn that didn;t make sense based on the stated meta of her scum reading rayn.

And then she refused to elaborate on this town read.

Yeah shit post Vivax TBH.
+ Show Spoiler +


On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?


Now LS sheeps vivax's take of the cupcake /Dp battle feeling forced. But its cast as his own idea?

He knows someone else feels that way, vivax just posted that exact sentiment.

Bad, bad, bad.

On June 10 2023 04:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 04:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 03:15 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 10 2023 03:09 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 02:36 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 10 2023 02:35 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 02:19 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 10 2023 01:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Hapa if you are around had you caught up yet by chance?


I’m just about caught up, but nothing I’ve read is inspiring to me one way or the other beyond a very strong town read on Slam.

I also have this overwhelming desire to tunnel marv for nostalgia’s sake, but that’s about it.


Weak tbh, I had the same urge with you and there‘s a bunch of info around already.
You used to be more opinionated.


Once upon a time I had a full head of hair and now it is gone.


Relatable. Mine goes grey instead.


Re: opinions, there are a lot of games that I’ll have strong opinions, but this thread is difficult for me. There is “information” but a lot of it to me is bad. It’s basically DP shitting up the thread by forcing a case on CopCake, because he can’t help himself.

But that doesn’t give me a lot to go on.

Frankly, I’m more skeptical/suspicious of players that have developed strong opinions more than anything else. MZ’s post looks quite bad to me in that respect. I’d think yours is bad too, but I also think you’re of the same mentality as DP.

Regarding the bolded do you think this is alignment indicative for Darth?


I don’t think forcing a case is alignment indicative in an early game context.

Stuff like him refusing to read Chez’s wall of text and then reading said wall anyway tells me he was just bored early game and doing random shit.



Wrong, its actually pro town (not that the case on CC is particularly forced IMO) I feel fairly comfortable taking heat from people and provoking activity at the cost of some mild defending.

I definitely have been the driver of a lot of activity and forcing people to take positions early in day one which is certainly pro town.

You're right in regard to me though, I could probably still do this as mafia.

On June 10 2023 05:30 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 14:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Why do you have a strong opinion of LS alignment slam?

Statistics, and difference of opener.

Why you got all questions and no reads, m8? I asked all the questions last game iirc it ain't so townie


You don't think I have talked about peoples alignment? Even though you quoted my post stating lynching LS at the time was a good call?

Don't you think that qualifies as a read at this point in the game?

His opener doesn't seem that different to me. Still seems anxious and crafted.


Yes it is anxious and crafted. It‘s not from this world or era. It‘s pasta, copy..pasta.

Do you think that‘s not revenant, DP ? Do you really think that ?


Yep, that is why I scum read him for it immediately. lol.

On June 10 2023 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
whoever said vivax is mafia is probably mafia.

that's my best read atm


Bad.

On June 10 2023 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
whoever said vivax is mafia is probably mafia.

that's my best read atm


Initially I thought hapa didn't do enough to establish himself as town when he entered the game, particularly if he prides himself as being easy to read (and from memory this was very true when he was town 7 years ago)

But the second read through he seems better to me, just feels very relaxed.


On June 10 2023 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 05:41 CopCake wrote:
Explain me the chezinu thing

Is it only because he voted vivax?

Chezinu is a good hunter of power roles as mafia, and has a "blue/red sickness" as town, which means people tend to play more cautiously when they are a power role rather than vanilla, and Chezinu recognizes that (and thinks it's mafia because mafia also plays more carefully).

Vivax is not blue, never fucking ever in this game, so Chezinu has to be mafia because he i voting for Vivax and Vivax doesn't even look scummy at all.


The problem with this is that I don't think he read his role PM.


On June 10 2023 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think lynching LS is the way here though


Agree at this point in my read through.

On June 10 2023 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Ok if I have to choose out of Darth and CopCake who is mafia more likely Darth? CopCake didn't lie about her stuff towards him and Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason?


Bad.

On June 10 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you have to choose?


Exactly.

On June 10 2023 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you have to choose?

1 of them is mafia the other is town. It felt to forced from one side (IE how I caught a mafia player in the past and was correct on who). This is usually what happens when 1 person is town the other is mafia.


Where the fuck did this come from?

On June 10 2023 06:21 Vivax wrote:
I‘m like 90% sure LS is mind boggingly town after a skim.
And y‘all thought you were good.


Is this only for activity levels? YOu also thought he was town last game FWIW.

And were very wrong.

On June 10 2023 06:22 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
meh.. does anyone else think LS is mafia?

Darth does but he's not here.


And it's only gotten worse as I read through I am afraid.

On June 10 2023 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 06:21 Vivax wrote:
I‘m like 90% sure LS is mind boggingly town after a skim.
And y‘all thought you were good.

i am going to agree, even if i dont want to.


WTF?! Why the backflip.



On June 10 2023 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier:
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?

From both of them? No.

It felt like it from one side at least but I having a hard time figuring out who and why.

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:05 CopCake wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier:
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?


Do you think it was w vs w or a town vs wolf?

If the last, who was the most town?

closer to Mafia vs Town type of deal (Or Wolf vs Town since you know Werewolf better i think?) In that case I have no idea at the moment to be honest.

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier:
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?

From both of them? No.

It felt like it from one side at least but I having a hard time figuring out who and why.

.................... the what?

At least how I read that entire conversation between the two of them it felt forced from one side IE one of them is mafia type of deal with how that entire sequence felt.

I dont think iam gonna get around of this any more.
"I think one is scum but i cant specify which just one is or for what reasons!!"

##unvote Chezinu
##vote LightningStrike


sorry vivax i think this is it.


Nevermind.

On June 10 2023 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm idk i think i let Hapa off too easy, it as kinda bad after all what he posted..


Bad does not equal scum. Otherwise Vivax is 1000% mafia in this spot.

On June 10 2023 09:40 die_meatbaby wrote:
I finished work right now... and wow much to read. I was just fast reading and have to read it again more accurately after some sleep, but what I got so far is
Vivax is posting a lot of bullshit nonsense
MZ writes bad as last game
LS seems suspect for me
Rayn seems always suspect for me so I can't make a opinion on him.
TTT Strong Townread
Marv is okey for now
Chez is Chez. I still think he is not human. His account is a first AI try for scum maybe.
And I have to Filter everyone I didn't mention here.


I like DMB this game, not that I agree with all her reads, just reminds me of the end of last game a bit, like she is reading and comprehending what is actually happening. Not pretending to. Thats like 75th percentile play at this juncture.

On June 10 2023 12:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
welp, posted without really previewing but LS never came back to that question about Chez which just reinforces my impression that he was casting random suspicions rather than scum hunting.

I was scum hunting by asking questions about people trying to come up with my own conclusions? I did come up with my own conclusions and was some of posting them.


Actually you were sheeping strong players. HARD.

This is just so not true.

On June 10 2023 16:17 TankTopTiger wrote:
Yes you missed something. I'm red on CC since my conversations with Rayn regarding her. If Rayn had responded differently, I would have tunneled her. But Rayn is giving her the benefit of the doubt, which leaves me thinking she's red but I was willing to give her room to breathe.

Specifically, her thinking Rayn is green and basing her perspective of the game on that from moment one is super bad, much worse than all this other nonsense she's embroiled in.


This is the big reason to scum read cop cake, she was paranoid as fuck in the obs thread, and it makes no sense for her to say, I was wrong last game and now I think you are town.

I also think the way I enter games tends to draw out interest from scum trying to start a wagon on me, it's a great way of getting reads IMO.



Then how should I read this ? Didn't her lunch make you go Oooff when rayn pointed it out? Do you skip lunches, Darth Punk ? Do you discriminate against Mexican cuisine is that what you want to say?

If you are town I better see you gulp down two sushi burritos in a row or else.


The oof was the fact that she was asking for information which was answered in the post quoted.

Which meant a lot more to me in that moment than subsequently because I was not considering the slam thing.


So why are you saying I am mafia? Because I should be paranoid of rayn? I should call him mafia all the time? Because in ONE single obs discord chat you came to that conslusion and make it an absolute truth?

When rayn quoted that and you “ooooffffed” me it felt very opportunistic, very very and even worse after i explained that you didnt answer the slam thing. It felt like if you were a wolf from those old vintage disney cartoons wolves that got happy because he saw fresh meat.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 10 2023 22:34 GMT
#870
On June 11 2023 07:17 Hapahauli wrote:
ALso where did Cake go? Wasn't she here a minute ago?


I was reading DP’s filter
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 10 2023 22:39 GMT
#885
On June 10 2023 23:40 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 23:36 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh hm I’m not reading carefully enough. Gonna re-read and recalibrate.


The story of this game honestly. It seems like the only one actually reading properly is dmb and then she scum reads me for literally no reason. So sad.


I hate this kind of posts, so rayn doesnt read good, neither TTT
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 10 2023 22:46 GMT
#902
On June 11 2023 06:56 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 06:51 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 11 2023 06:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 06:40 Hapahauli wrote:
I think all and all, I'm still on MZ and TTT as our best lynches for today.

Rayn, curious to hear your thoughts on both (and LS, since you clearly disagree with me). I'll note that I think TTT has effectively set up CC and LS as back to back lynches in his filter, similar to what you are saying about LS.


Meh Hapa, I appreciate you trying to save me and all but you landed like a plane with no wings on this one.


Work with me here will ya? Happy to discuss CopCake all you want as long as I can convince ya to look at some different people.


Do you think MZ was lying about being a bottle of wine deep and having personal issues?


How is this relevant? I am sorry, I would have asked what do you think of his posts instead of mentioning drink and personal issues. I don’t think anyone would lie about serious stuff in a mafia game.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 10 2023 22:47 GMT
#903
Like shockey did a lot of meeeeetiinggsss but that was funny.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 10 2023 22:51 GMT
#908
Ok now to read the thread properly
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
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June 10 2023 22:58 GMT
#914
Ok DP, if I live in a world you are town, do you think TTT has the power to manipulate you and play you?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 08:43 GMT
#1101
-______-

Not gonna lie, I love the irony but damn :/

Baby I hope you continue to play <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 08:45 GMT
#1102
On June 11 2023 11:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

die_meatbaby (4): raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Hapahauli, DarthPunk, TankTopTiger, Alakaslam, die_meatbaby, TankTopTiger, Hapahauli
DarthPunk (3): CopCake, Vivax, die_meatbaby, LightningStrike, Vivax, Vivax
Vayoletta (1): DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh, DarthPunk
Raynpelikoneet (1): Chezinu
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Hapahauli, die_meatbaby, Hapahauli
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, DarthPunk, TankTopTiger
CopCake (0): DarthPunk, TankTopTiger, Alakaslam
Chezinu (0): raynpelikoneet
Vivax (0): Chezinu


Not Voting (3): marvellosity, Vayoletta, DarthPunk

With 4 votes, die_meatbaby has been lynched!



Is thus correct? DP didnt vote?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 08:55 GMT
#1104
Yeah I went to check and he voted exactly at 00
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 09:26 GMT
#1105
DP, why did you ask if MZ “drunk post” was real but when he was here you didn’t even care?

Why did you believe Baby was being honest instantly but MZ could be faking?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 10:44 GMT
#1123
On June 11 2023 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP can you look at TTT's filter for me and tell me what you think? He seems to be saying Cake is mafia for having such a strong town read on me every time she talks about Cake, but every time he talks with me the conversation ends in "okay if you know each other i see your point and that's not why i think Cake is mafia". It's really absurd.

Cake comeon, do you really still think DP is mafia??? If you can't process what happened especially towards eod1 you're either insane or mafia if this read still sticks.


???????

Can’t mafia fake to try to save someone and then be “i told you so”? Or what I am not seeing right here? Please elaborate. Because I am tunelled.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 10:49 GMT
#1124
On June 11 2023 07:58 CopCake wrote:
Ok DP, if I live in a world you are town, do you think TTT has the power to manipulate you and play you?



This was my last post before I fell asleep.

Can you answer me Darth?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 10:57 GMT
#1126
On June 11 2023 19:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 19:44 CopCake wrote:
On June 11 2023 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP can you look at TTT's filter for me and tell me what you think? He seems to be saying Cake is mafia for having such a strong town read on me every time she talks about Cake, but every time he talks with me the conversation ends in "okay if you know each other i see your point and that's not why i think Cake is mafia". It's really absurd.

Cake comeon, do you really still think DP is mafia??? If you can't process what happened especially towards eod1 you're either insane or mafia if this read still sticks.


???????

Can’t mafia fake to try to save someone and then be “i told you so”? Or what I am not seeing right here? Please elaborate. Because I am tunelled.

save someone to lynch themselves??????
you realise if DMB would not be lynched DP would most likely..


He didnt want to lynch dmb, tho.

He was proposing to lynch Vayoletta.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 11:18 GMT
#1128
Ok, now I get your point. You think mafia DP would have sit and be quiet and let Dmb die instead of trying to save her because if not, it was more likely he would be lynched.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
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June 11 2023 11:41 GMT
#1132
On June 11 2023 20:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 20:18 CopCake wrote:
Ok, now I get your point. You think mafia DP would have sit and be quiet and let Dmb die instead of trying to save her because if not, it was more likely he would be lynched.

Exactly, not necessarily be quiet but not to advocate another lynch that strongly. The only way i can see that, is if DP somehow figured out DMB is blue and made an educated guess DMB is gonna claim and then he HAS to try to lynch someone else. I don't know if that's true and i would need to check better since it seemed like noone thought DMB is blue.


He said that Dmb is the only one that “reads” and he took time to read chezinu. Nevertheless, that doesn’t confirm he figured out she was blue.

And even if he did figured out and she claimed, he was the lynch pretty much. (Most likely)
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
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June 11 2023 11:51 GMT
#1133
On June 11 2023 11:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

die_meatbaby (4): raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Hapahauli, DarthPunk, TankTopTiger, Alakaslam, die_meatbaby, TankTopTiger, Hapahauli
DarthPunk (3): CopCake, Vivax, die_meatbaby, LightningStrike, Vivax, Vivax
Vayoletta (1): DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh, DarthPunk
Raynpelikoneet (1): Chezinu
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Hapahauli, die_meatbaby, Hapahauli
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, DarthPunk, TankTopTiger
CopCake (0): DarthPunk, TankTopTiger, Alakaslam
Chezinu (0): raynpelikoneet
Vivax (0): Chezinu


Not Voting (3): marvellosity, Vayoletta, DarthPunk

With 4 votes, die_meatbaby has been lynched!



At least MZ, TTT, Darth, Happa and LS were active (from this thread, need to check times in voting thread)

MZ was already on vayoletta, Idk if LS would move his vote from DP, that leaves TTT and Happa for a secure (maybe?) switch to Vayoletta. (??????) if dmb claimed doc.



CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
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June 11 2023 12:04 GMT
#1135
Yeah I will stop to tunnel him because that would have been waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy too risky.

Even if he figured it out.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
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June 11 2023 16:01 GMT
#1143
I think DP is just like that, last game he also sounded extremely manipulative, I called him mafia many times for that.

He read marv bad too.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 17:30 GMT
#1145
On June 11 2023 19:06 Vayoletta wrote:
I was not aware that nights are talky this game, that's not how these games are usually played. Thought I'd use the quiet night to catch up with the game.

In my vision Copcake, Alakaslam and Hapahauli are all town. With Alakaslam that's more of the tone and the way he conveyed his thoughts early game that makes me read him town. Copcake's aggression makes me read that slot as town. and Hapahauli's request of clarification for activity rules here makes me think he has genuine concern on my slot, which would more naturally come from town.

Haven't read the thread for pr claims, but will need to check if there are any clears.

If Darthpunk is town, I would say there is a good chance that there is one mafia there. I don't think Copcake is mafia, so either Lightning or Vivax.

Copcake, what's the reason you voted DarthPunk?





Sorry I found this when I was filtering you.

At the time I found very oportunistic how he jumped on me, only after rayn made a comment about “why lunch have something to do with this? Darth already answered you.” Which he didn’t. I was waiting to see how he was reading and why slam was town.

But Darth just “oooffeeed” the comment and said I was mafia bla bla bla “good catch ryan”. I told him he didn’t answer me and went full spirall after that. His mmmmm playstyle, is quite agressive, he call people “bad players”, “only baby can read” and didn’t consider other people’s opinion.

Nevertheless, his end of the day would be way toooooo risky for mafia, like insane because he could be lynched, like the best he could do as mafia was to sit in the shadows and wait for baby to die but he tried to get the lynch an inactive. (You)

He needs to recalibrate and be a little bit more humble, it seems he only cares what ryan has to say, ttt and big personalities.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 17:33 GMT
#1146
On June 07 2023 10:04 Grackaroni wrote:
Rule change for this game:

No townie seal posts. Don't make one and don't ask Chez to post one.


+ Show Spoiler +
Slam was a good sport last game but it kind of ruins the point of the game if you can just choose to confirm yourself whenever you want as town.



@vayoletta about your question about chezinu
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
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June 11 2023 17:35 GMT
#1147
And yes, I can fake my reaction online 🥱, the sky is blue, the grass is green, nothing new there.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
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June 12 2023 05:04 GMT
#1205
I am town TTT and I checked my filter and answered all your questions. I think I over reacted to your “ooofff comment” that made me think that you were mafia and made me tunel you hard, you don’t wanting to answer me if you think TTT could play you also made me 🤷🏽‍♀️ when I was trying to focus in something else.

I invite you to pls, consider me town. Be wary of me if you wish but have me as town for a while. When rayn pointed out the end of the day I realized my mistake. And I hope you are humble enough to consider yours (if i remember correctly you went hard on LS because he appeared “like magic” and called dmb good, then she progressed bad and then “she was acting the same way as last game”)

I have my suspicious on TTT and that is nothing new, reconsidering my Slam read also, I wonder if he started to look “less stressed” because he read in the obvs that being like that is a mafia trait of his, if I remember again the EoTD he changed his vote according to Happa’s will. Something similar when there was the Marv vs DP (I am never ever ever lynching Marv to lol bye see that cool case!), I need to see more of vayoletta and marv, so I’ll have them in null.

I dont trust Vivax, his 180° flip on me has me ????? Like if he is just following what is “cool”.

I need to re read MZ, I barely remember something.

Chezinu is… Chezinu.

But can someone explain how the blue/res disease works?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 05:08 GMT
#1206
Oh yeah, and ofc I play different than in obvs, I am a very emotional person and I tone read a lot.

I called marv town even when all of you called him mafia :p, his tone and filter made me have that

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 05:39 GMT
#1207
On June 12 2023 11:40 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Obviously I think someone who knows Hapa's rep killed him but the question is who had played with Hapa before?


He was also objectively townie and had thread presence.

I also think mz is town so maybe maf wanted to push things in that direction.

I think people who didn’t care about the lynch seeing it was town on town on town, are the people to look at.

Mafia really struggle with last minute vote switching so it’s a good place to look for info.

It’s part of the reason I agree with Rayn that vivax is town, also why I thought hapa and mz were town.

I need to re read cause it didn’t feel like ttt actually cared about who got lynched but that could also be style or whatever.

But yeah firm on mz, vivax, you, me as town at this point.

Rayn would be in that group too but I guess I respect his scum game too much, thinking he could appear this town or and actually plausibly still be mafia (not thinking that is the case)


Btw, not shitting on you or anything, but don’t you think mafia rayn! Would have let tunelled cake continue to bother you? Or LS? Anyone else?

He pretty much cleared you.

There can be a tinfoil scenario but that doesn’t help here.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 06:07 GMT
#1210
On June 12 2023 14:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 14:39 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 11:40 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Obviously I think someone who knows Hapa's rep killed him but the question is who had played with Hapa before?


He was also objectively townie and had thread presence.

I also think mz is town so maybe maf wanted to push things in that direction.

I think people who didn’t care about the lynch seeing it was town on town on town, are the people to look at.

Mafia really struggle with last minute vote switching so it’s a good place to look for info.

It’s part of the reason I agree with Rayn that vivax is town, also why I thought hapa and mz were town.

I need to re read cause it didn’t feel like ttt actually cared about who got lynched but that could also be style or whatever.

But yeah firm on mz, vivax, you, me as town at this point.

Rayn would be in that group too but I guess I respect his scum game too much, thinking he could appear this town or and actually plausibly still be mafia (not thinking that is the case)


Btw, not shitting on you or anything, but don’t you think mafia rayn! Would have let tunelled cake continue to bother you? Or LS? Anyone else?

He pretty much cleared you.

There can be a tinfoil scenario but that doesn’t help here.


I think there is some stuff could scum players have to do if they are strong town players.

Or actually do to result in reads like this.

But I don’t actually think Rayn is mafia right now which I said in my post.

Why do you react so strongly to my reads and posts but not about anything else In the game?

Surely if you think I am town it’s in your best interest to look at the posts of others?


I am about to slee, that is why.

Gn, wanted to adress the thing I find most important.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 06:08 GMT
#1211
Sleep*
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 09:55 GMT
#1253
Fuck Slam I am so so so sorry
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 10:01 GMT
#1254
On June 12 2023 15:26 TankTopTiger wrote:
@Rayn
I see CC as only having done OMGUS since CCvsDP. She's made shallow comments elsewhere, but the bulk of her attention has been directly on people who have expressed suspicions of her. Is this a fair assessment, and if so, is this consistent with how she plays as town?


I have called you town, and LS even before he claimed.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 10:24 GMT
#1256
I was mafia in this game and rayn was town, I won as mafia. It is a small game so it would be easier to read:

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/563528-im-a-cop-you-idiot-round-2

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 10:45 GMT
#1257
In this game I was town, l didnt call rayn mafia, in fact I called him town.

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/560300-holy-guardians-cpt-3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 10:47 GMT
#1258
So yeah debunked theory “copcake calls rayn mafia” debunked.

Pls don’t make me look for more games, It was annoying to look for those because the intro doesnt say who is town and who was mafia, I had to filter myself.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 10:49 GMT
#1259
On June 12 2023 19:11 Vivax wrote:
Man, I must have slept through two days and now need to have ketchup for breakfast.

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 11:21 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 11:18 LightningStrike wrote:
So the only people really active the last hour of Day 1 were Darth, MZ, Hapa(dead town), dmb (dead town), TTT, and Vivax. Just wonderful -_-
Read Hapa's filter and the only thing I got out of it so far is he had a big scumread on MZ hmmmmm.


Can you stop acting so scummy otherwise I’m going to think you fake claimed.

Mafia know that mz was on Japan’s radar that could be the reason the nk him it’s wifom that you yourself used as mafia last game as mafia.



I lol'd.

HEY GUYS I'M LOOKING FOR MAFIA SO STOP PLAYING LIKE ONE OR I WILL CATCH YOU.

I'm unceremoniously UnScumreading DarthPunk. I believe his post before the flip to be more likely from town and I tip my hat if that is a scum post.
LS' post after the flip felt like a slight taunt so mindmeld points to that.

Now to see where CC's head is at.


You summoned! You named me and I appeared! I must be mafia!

I want to know why you changed your view on me?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 10:52 GMT
#1260
Ok, Darthpunk, TTT, with proof that “cake always calls or is paranoid of rayn as town” is NOT a #fact neither a #meta

How do you see me?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 11:03 GMT
#1263
Tbh now TTT and DP look worse in my eyes (DP get a bit of a pass because of EotD and would be too tinfoil)

Because they relayed on the word of ONE person, and a obvq in which I didnt called rayn mafia that much to make a whoooooooooleeeee strong read on me.

To me it looks like one of them or both took the opportunistic “rayn is a strong player let’s go from there” door and tried to grill me.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 11:15 GMT
#1265
You are right, you wanted to see where my head is, sorry. I read your comment yesterday before going to sleep but still it was a bit of a shady thing to say.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 11:32 GMT
#1266
On June 11 2023 12:00 Alakaslam wrote:
Remember, lynch me last

WAIT VIVAX TO DMB

VE TO HAPA
NO SHUT UP LISTEN

VE TO HAPA

ME TO CHEZINU

WARCH IT HAOOEN


Slam were you saying here that Hapa is mafia?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 11:55 GMT
#1267
Nevermind, is probably bromance/romantic stuff assuming the vivax/dmb and chezinu/slam
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 12:40 GMT
#1274
It is very different to be on obvs than being in the game -_____-

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 12:41 GMT
#1275
On June 12 2023 21:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
Look at filters for D1 between last game and this one:
Endurance Mafia CC reads on D1 (from obs QT):
    *Rayn
    *Koshi
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *Slam
    *Chez
    *Chez
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DMB
    *vivax
    *MZ
    *DP
    *Koshi
    *Slam


Endurance Mafia II CC reads on D1:
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *Rayn
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *LS
    *TTT


These are approx. cos I did it fast, but should be fairly reasonable birds eye view of her actions. There's no flipflopping this game, only blind read on Rayn early, singular shallow reads, and tunnels on people who suspect her.


This is a lie, I called LS and Slam town.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 12:44 GMT
#1278
And I also said I would be busier, which is true.
I dislike how you are twisting things, and you know, I would expect you to check on Rayn because “OMG is true she doesnt call him mafia inmediatly”

And even worse because you think that rayn calling DP for eotd actions doesnt clear DP.

You are not trying to solve the game.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 12:44 GMT
#1279
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.




I never called him mafia?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 12:51 GMT
#1284
On June 10 2023 08:15 CopCake wrote:
I know that what LS said was pretty scummy but I feel like he is emotionally involved in this game compared to Endurance II (I went to check his filter) and I see a lot of excuses “sorry I slept, sorry my aunt this, sorry was busy”, but here he seems excited, even participating before and meeting and posting right after it finished.



More proof I never called LS scum this game, his tone is different from last game.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 12:52 GMT
#1285
On June 12 2023 21:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
Look at filters for D1 between last game and this one:
Endurance Mafia CC reads on D1 (from obs QT):
    *Rayn
    *Koshi
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *Slam
    *Chez
    *Chez
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DMB
    *vivax
    *MZ
    *DP
    *Koshi
    *Slam


Endurance Mafia II CC reads on D1:
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *Rayn
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *LS
    *TTT


These are approx. cos I did it fast, but should be fairly reasonable birds eye view of her actions. There's no flipflopping this game, only blind read on Rayn early, singular shallow reads, and tunnels on people who suspect her.


This is a lie, I called LS and Slam town.


That actually makes you look worse in my opinion.


That fact you have only one scum read all game and haven’t actively suspected anyone who hasn’t suspected you make la you look worse to be clear


I called you and TTT mafia 🤷🏽‍♀️
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 12:52 GMT
#1287
Well TTT was a soft and I wanted to venture that with me but you refused.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 12:57 GMT
#1289
On June 12 2023 21:50 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 20:03 CopCake wrote:
Tbh now TTT and DP look worse in my eyes (DP get a bit of a pass because of EotD and would be too tinfoil)

Because they relayed on the word of ONE person, and a obvq in which I didnt called rayn mafia that much to make a whoooooooooleeeee strong read on me.

To me it looks like one of them or both took the opportunistic “rayn is a strong player let’s go from there” door and tried to grill me.



I think DP came off as townier after review, but I wasn‘t going to proclaim that during night phase and his behaviour around Hapa flip seemed genuine unless he‘s pulling off HF style scumplay.

I take issue in this post that during D1 I had a similar perspective on TTT and DP having an associative component linking them and you keep perpetuating the same into this day expecting me to be an ally to you for the purposes of not getting lynched.

While I‘m over thinking that the associative behaviour made them mafia, I still think TTT in isolation can be.

To put it in simpler terms: Can you find arguments to scumread them in isolation? Because this looks like you‘re double omgusing without being clear about which one is the dishonest omgus and which one has a point.

At this point I think DP comes off as townier and TTT can be explained by being mafia who‘s hiding by attempting to be his shadow. Would explain the lack of suspicion on his part.


I think I made it clear that DP looks more town for the EoTD actions, like I have him almost locked town. I even changed my tone to him.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 12:58 GMT
#1290
On June 12 2023 21:55 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 21:52 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
Look at filters for D1 between last game and this one:
Endurance Mafia CC reads on D1 (from obs QT):
    *Rayn
    *Koshi
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *Slam
    *Chez
    *Chez
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DMB
    *vivax
    *MZ
    *DP
    *Koshi
    *Slam


Endurance Mafia II CC reads on D1:
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *Rayn
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *LS
    *TTT


These are approx. cos I did it fast, but should be fairly reasonable birds eye view of her actions. There's no flipflopping this game, only blind read on Rayn early, singular shallow reads, and tunnels on people who suspect her.


This is a lie, I called LS and Slam town.


That actually makes you look worse in my opinion.


That fact you have only one scum read all game and haven’t actively suspected anyone who hasn’t suspected you make la you look worse to be clear


I called you and TTT mafia 🤷🏽‍♀️



Mostly just me though.


This is true, I tunelled you hard for the “ooofffff” comment.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 12:59 GMT
#1292
That EoTD, it would be kamikaze DP
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:00 GMT
#1295
On June 12 2023 21:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 21:57 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:50 Vivax wrote:
On June 12 2023 20:03 CopCake wrote:
Tbh now TTT and DP look worse in my eyes (DP get a bit of a pass because of EotD and would be too tinfoil)

Because they relayed on the word of ONE person, and a obvq in which I didnt called rayn mafia that much to make a whoooooooooleeeee strong read on me.

To me it looks like one of them or both took the opportunistic “rayn is a strong player let’s go from there” door and tried to grill me.



I think DP came off as townier after review, but I wasn‘t going to proclaim that during night phase and his behaviour around Hapa flip seemed genuine unless he‘s pulling off HF style scumplay.

I take issue in this post that during D1 I had a similar perspective on TTT and DP having an associative component linking them and you keep perpetuating the same into this day expecting me to be an ally to you for the purposes of not getting lynched.

While I‘m over thinking that the associative behaviour made them mafia, I still think TTT in isolation can be.

To put it in simpler terms: Can you find arguments to scumread them in isolation? Because this looks like you‘re double omgusing without being clear about which one is the dishonest omgus and which one has a point.

At this point I think DP comes off as townier and TTT can be explained by being mafia who‘s hiding by attempting to be his shadow. Would explain the lack of suspicion on his part.


I think I made it clear that DP looks more town for the EoTD actions, like I have him almost locked town. I even changed my tone to him.


You just said I looked worse. Now I’m locked town??


I also said I gave you a pass for EotD, and also said “almost”
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:02 GMT
#1298
On June 12 2023 21:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 21:52 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
Look at filters for D1 between last game and this one:
Endurance Mafia CC reads on D1 (from obs QT):
    *Rayn
    *Koshi
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *Slam
    *Chez
    *Chez
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DMB
    *vivax
    *MZ
    *DP
    *Koshi
    *Slam


Endurance Mafia II CC reads on D1:
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *Rayn
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *LS
    *TTT


These are approx. cos I did it fast, but should be fairly reasonable birds eye view of her actions. There's no flipflopping this game, only blind read on Rayn early, singular shallow reads, and tunnels on people who suspect her.


This is a lie, I called LS and Slam town.


That actually makes you look worse in my opinion.


That fact you have only one scum read all game and haven’t actively suspected anyone who hasn’t suspected you make la you look worse to be clear


I called you and TTT mafia 🤷🏽‍♀️


How is this not what I said? You OMGUSed the people who were on you. And you tunneled hard D1. Last game it took you until D3 to even close to tunnel. You then suspended the tunnel D4 and jumped back on D5, so not even a true tunnel until D5!!


Is different to play an obvs than in game

Check my games, I am always chaotic.

Stop using an obvs as reference. And the word of ONE player.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:07 GMT
#1302
On June 12 2023 22:02 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:00 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:57 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:50 Vivax wrote:
On June 12 2023 20:03 CopCake wrote:
Tbh now TTT and DP look worse in my eyes (DP get a bit of a pass because of EotD and would be too tinfoil)

Because they relayed on the word of ONE person, and a obvq in which I didnt called rayn mafia that much to make a whoooooooooleeeee strong read on me.

To me it looks like one of them or both took the opportunistic “rayn is a strong player let’s go from there” door and tried to grill me.



I think DP came off as townier after review, but I wasn‘t going to proclaim that during night phase and his behaviour around Hapa flip seemed genuine unless he‘s pulling off HF style scumplay.

I take issue in this post that during D1 I had a similar perspective on TTT and DP having an associative component linking them and you keep perpetuating the same into this day expecting me to be an ally to you for the purposes of not getting lynched.

While I‘m over thinking that the associative behaviour made them mafia, I still think TTT in isolation can be.

To put it in simpler terms: Can you find arguments to scumread them in isolation? Because this looks like you‘re double omgusing without being clear about which one is the dishonest omgus and which one has a point.

At this point I think DP comes off as townier and TTT can be explained by being mafia who‘s hiding by attempting to be his shadow. Would explain the lack of suspicion on his part.


I think I made it clear that DP looks more town for the EoTD actions, like I have him almost locked town. I even changed my tone to him.


You just said I looked worse. Now I’m locked town??


I also said I gave you a pass for EotD, and also said “almost”


so which is it? I looked worse or I’m almost locked town?


When Rayn pointed out the whole eotd I was like “Ok this guy is town (you)” but then when I went to look for games to prove my point that the meta of “cake calls rayn mafia always” is a lie, I started to wonder why? And then I had a small tinfoil that there is a small chance that you could be a mafia with balls of steel, but once again too tinfoil.




CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:08 GMT
#1303
On June 12 2023 21:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 21:52 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
Look at filters for D1 between last game and this one:
Endurance Mafia CC reads on D1 (from obs QT):
    *Rayn
    *Koshi
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *Slam
    *Chez
    *Chez
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DMB
    *vivax
    *MZ
    *DP
    *Koshi
    *Slam


Endurance Mafia II CC reads on D1:
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *Rayn
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *LS
    *TTT


These are approx. cos I did it fast, but should be fairly reasonable birds eye view of her actions. There's no flipflopping this game, only blind read on Rayn early, singular shallow reads, and tunnels on people who suspect her.


This is a lie, I called LS and Slam town.


That actually makes you look worse in my opinion.


That fact you have only one scum read all game and haven’t actively suspected anyone who hasn’t suspected you make la you look worse to be clear


I called you and TTT mafia 🤷🏽‍♀️


How is this not what I said? You OMGUSed the people who were on you. And you tunneled hard D1. Last game it took you until D3 to even close to tunnel. You then suspended the tunnel D4 and jumped back on D5, so not even a true tunnel until D5!!


Chezinu called me mafia
Slam called me mafia

I didnt went hard on them?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:10 GMT
#1305
Why in the world, mafiacake would fight two big guys?

Someone who has played with me pls answer that and talk about how I tend to play because these two say stuff that are lies or twist my words. Thank you.

I am the new Marv in this game.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:11 GMT
#1306
On June 12 2023 22:05 TankTopTiger wrote:
But you're not chaotic this game you're just parked on a tunnel (as much as Rayn will allow you). The only chaos is the pedantic muddy bs that occurs any time anyone questions you.


I also want to know if I sound pedantic :/ because I dont want to be remembered for that.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:13 GMT
#1308
On June 12 2023 22:03 TankTopTiger wrote:
Wait actually ignore that bit about no tunnel D4. You were suspicious during that time.

BUT ALSO
You regretted calling Rayn red last game and so blind-read him town this game. You also tunneled both me and DP last game (we were your top reads, especially me) and yet you have no concern you might be wrong this game exept when Rayn tells you off.


Neither of you also sit down and try to see if you are wrong, and is more frustrating because I came with facts -____- of other games.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:16 GMT
#1310
On June 12 2023 22:15 TankTopTiger wrote:
If it's a lie take it up with Rayn. I don't read outside games I've played it's too much work. He said it, it made sense given he's been rolling scum a lot, and it was corroborated by obsQT. That's what the read is based on.

Even if it isn't true, you still just flat-out assumed he was town and that's really bad unless you've established it as your meta and you haven't.


I also said mafia rayn would have tried to get me emotional and angry, and he hasnt done it.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:18 GMT
#1313
And rayn has a right to missremember things, you, as “new players with me” is your work to ask OTHER people if that is true.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:19 GMT
#1314
On June 12 2023 22:16 TankTopTiger wrote:
Two big guys? The reason is that these are the people who questioned you.

Slam and Chez are trolls who nobody takes seriously (at least at this stage of the game). They didn't come after you at all and stop pretending they did.


And other people call me town.

Isnt there a chance… idk, you are mistaken? And you should ask them why I am town? Maybe you are tunelled because of an obvs in which is different to play?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:20 GMT
#1315
On June 12 2023 22:18 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:10 CopCake wrote:
Why in the world, mafiacake would fight two big guys?

Someone who has played with me pls answer that and talk about how I tend to play because these two say stuff that are lies or twist my words. Thank you.

I am the new Marv in this game.


I’m not lying or twisting words. if I am town like you think I am that is against my own best interests. Unlike mafia I actually try to understand peoples intentions and alignments.

You have no idea how much of a free pass I have been giving you these past days basically out of respect for Rayne read on you and to give you time and space to do literally anything else this game.

I have asked you time and time again to post about other things make other reads.

You have ignored me.


I legitimately feel that in all of our interactions the person lying and twisting the truth has been you.

And the fact you throw that at your stated almost locked town read as soon as they accuse you basically sells me on it.


This is a lie.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:23 GMT
#1318
Btw you shouldnt treat me in a “special way” because of rayn.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:36 GMT
#1324
On June 12 2023 22:31 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:08 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:52 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
Look at filters for D1 between last game and this one:
Endurance Mafia CC reads on D1 (from obs QT):
    *Rayn
    *Koshi
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *Slam
    *Chez
    *Chez
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DMB
    *vivax
    *MZ
    *DP
    *Koshi
    *Slam


Endurance Mafia II CC reads on D1:
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *Rayn
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *LS
    *TTT


These are approx. cos I did it fast, but should be fairly reasonable birds eye view of her actions. There's no flipflopping this game, only blind read on Rayn early, singular shallow reads, and tunnels on people who suspect her.


This is a lie, I called LS and Slam town.


That actually makes you look worse in my opinion.


That fact you have only one scum read all game and haven’t actively suspected anyone who hasn’t suspected you make la you look worse to be clear


I called you and TTT mafia 🤷🏽‍♀️


How is this not what I said? You OMGUSed the people who were on you. And you tunneled hard D1. Last game it took you until D3 to even close to tunnel. You then suspended the tunnel D4 and jumped back on D5, so not even a true tunnel until D5!!


Chezinu called me mafia
Slam called me mafia

I didnt went hard on them?


Where did slam call you mafia btw. Didn’t he just stick a placeholder vote on you because I was a strong town read of his and was the opposing Wagon.

Did you just tell a lie copcake?


Is the placeholder, yes.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:39 GMT
#1325
I think I will just ignore you, because this won’t benefit town.

Peace!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:39 GMT
#1326
Oh and let others sort me out.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:47 GMT
#1328
On June 12 2023 11:11 Chezinu wrote:
raynpelikoneet
Vivax

Meapak_Ziphh

marvellosity
DarthPunk

Vayoletta
CopCake

TankTopTiger - saved for endgame with Slam


————-
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:50 GMT
#1330
On June 12 2023 22:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:47 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 11:11 Chezinu wrote:
raynpelikoneet
Vivax

Meapak_Ziphh

marvellosity
DarthPunk

Vayoletta
CopCake

TankTopTiger - saved for endgame with Slam


————-


What does that even mean? he is not calling anyone anything there.


Top people tend to be town, and the deeper, the scummier, that is how most people do lists here.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:55 GMT
#1332
- ignored forever now -
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 20:51 GMT
#1398
Idr if it was on obvs or in game but someone mentioned that rayn is “less agressive”/“passive”, or something like that and is because his style changed and because he rolled town, I strongly believe is the same here.

He doesn’t need to shit up the thread to have control or give direction to his reads.

There is also the DP eotd thing, I don’t think mafia rayn would share that, unless they are mafia together but that is not probable, considering that both of them could have easily misslynch me.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 20:56 GMT
#1403
Btw Vayoletta have you caught up?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 23:45 GMT
#1432
Ok, this is tiresome.

Top town
LS
Rayn
DP (for mechanics)
Slam
MZ (after reading his filter correctly, his LS case is chef kiss but he is town, still his progression is fluid)
Vivax has some reads similar as me and he called out DP when he suggested that LS fake claimed, last game there were only two blues so I doubt there would be more? I think DP just find scummy things (I mean LS looked scummy in the case MZ made if you take out the tone read)

Mid tones

Marv: I think rayn has been more vocal than DP so his read is ????????????

Mafia

Vayoletta: I am sorry but you asked if I was able to do a poker face but your reads seem mostly… “tone”? It is the first time we play together this so I would be more wary if I was you.

Chezinu: Chezinu is always a wild card, but his vote on rayn from last day was riperino, he was being nice to dmb like “I will stop the troll for you” but when she died he wasnt sad, he was like yes! Another blue! Ahahahahahha the irony.

TTT: I think he is puppeterin DP. “DP, dmb is using nai on you”, I mean, this is a little of tinfoil but what if you also got that she was blue? There is that chance. You played with her and instead to see DmB in DP’s eyes you went full severe “she is scum” when generally you try to see both sides. (from last game)

I also think TTT and Vayoletta team would make perfect sense, considering he didnt want to lynch her.

My two cents.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 23:51 GMT
#1438
On June 13 2023 08:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 08:45 CopCake wrote:

Chezinu: Chezinu is always a wild card, but his vote on rayn from last day was riperino, he was being nice to dmb like “I will stop the troll for you” but when she died he wasnt sad, he was like yes! Another blue! Ahahahahahha the irony.

TTT: I think he is puppeterin DP. “DP, dmb is using nai on you”, I mean, this is a little of tinfoil but what if you also got that she was blue? There is that chance. You played with her and instead to see DmB in DP’s eyes you went full severe “she is scum” when generally you try to see both sides. (from last game)

Do you realise that Chezinu's top mafia read is TTT?


It is a joke from last game, because it was TTT vs slam

Chezinu loves slam so much he created another game so slam wouldnt feel so bad.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 00:51 GMT
#1462
Nevermind my Chezinu read, it is useless and bad, I just remembered he doesn’t kill girls so it doesn’t work.

Marv is the other mafia.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 00:51 GMT
#1463
I am sorry Chezinu!!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 02:54 GMT
#1487
Our only goal is to win against vayoletta
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 02:54 GMT
#1488
And I think Darth/DP would like the gift gas and awkward guests boardgames if they enjoy mafia.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 10:12 GMT
#1553
I dont think DP and TTT are mafia together. DP unvote me because he believed I had a point, he could have easily said that “TTT does this, is his meta, it doesnt work like that”.

Specially since he really wants to grill me.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 10:19 GMT
#1554
Btw I am not town cleared by rayn, he thinks that only vivax and LS are his 10000% town reads.

Other people are having additional reads on chezinu and marv.

I could lynch marv, I think I made a mistake on chezinu.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 11:16 GMT
#1560
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


-
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 11:17 GMT
#1561
On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry


-


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 14:26 GMT
#1589
On June 13 2023 05:24 marvellosity wrote:
So:
LS - town, uncounterclaimed tracker, longer filter in less than half the time of last game. Emotionally congruent?

DP/Vivax - townreads to a lesser extent. I don’t really know what Vivax is on and my brain hurts, so likely town. DP has been the town leader (sort of in rayn’s absence a little), I didn’t understand why he was getting votes d1. Good play around the lynch. Read on Copcake feels genuine.

The rest is where it gets tricky.

Slam and Chez both seem to be playing similarly to last game. What that means for their alignment this game is anyone’s guess.

TTT’s play also has a lot of similarities to last game and at some point I thought he was pretty town for it. There’s something around how he’s treating Copcake this game vs me last game that I find suspicious though. Apparently last game he was happy to tunnel me to shit and tell me how poorly I was playing if town, seemingly purely based on his interpretation of other people’s interpretation of my play (?!). This game where he apparently has legit in game reasons to scumread CC, the tunnel is way more… gentle. Feels a marked difference. Something about the Hapa kill too (yes wifom)

rayn said plenty of smart things as usual and he’s had some pretty strong townreads from a couple of people (sort of blurring into one after a big read). But I’m not ready for that read yet, he is less town leadery than I would expect, a little more passive. I’m not ready to do much about it today, because he’s missing Koshi to bounce off and he’s been missing me to bounce off too. So it might all be nothing. But it might be something

Copcake I read as somewhat town for holding up to the pressure early game. I did agree with whoever said that there is a lack of alignment-finding-out-ness about her play, but then I think about some of my past games when I’ve been under a lot of pressure and I sometimes fall into the trap of just defending, defending, defending.

Vayo, bleh. Could obviously easily be mafia, probs in the same way some/all of you think I might be mafia in this spot.

MZ… I don’t disagree with the general analysis that MZ’s play feels similar to last game. But, ya know, townplay thay gets you lynched d1 (sorry about that) isn’t terribly hard to mimic either. I agree very much with what rayn said about MZ at the lynch. As an aside, I read a bunch of his past games last game, and he does just seem to be more aggressive now than he used to be.

Tldr; tomorrow I need to filter the bottom 3, and I need to interact more with the two above that.


1.- Vivax read is ?????? Considering everybody else is tricky, this feels like let’s just throw something here

2.- Rayn has been very vocal, dp is town leader in rayns absence so he is town but rayn is not town leader so he is a tricky read?

Try to explain me this marv
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 14:45 GMT
#1592
You should buy baby a cake

Or an ice cream

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 15:08 GMT
#1596
On June 13 2023 23:24 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 08:45 CopCake wrote:
Ok, this is tiresome.

Top town
LS
Rayn
DP (for mechanics)
Slam
MZ (after reading his filter correctly, his LS case is chef kiss but he is town, still his progression is fluid)
Vivax has some reads similar as me and he called out DP when he suggested that LS fake claimed, last game there were only two blues so I doubt there would be more? I think DP just find scummy things (I mean LS looked scummy in the case MZ made if you take out the tone read)

Mid tones

Marv: I think rayn has been more vocal than DP so his read is ????????????

Mafia

Vayoletta: I am sorry but you asked if I was able to do a poker face but your reads seem mostly… “tone”? It is the first time we play together this so I would be more wary if I was you.

Chezinu: Chezinu is always a wild card, but his vote on rayn from last day was riperino, he was being nice to dmb like “I will stop the troll for you” but when she died he wasnt sad, he was like yes! Another blue! Ahahahahahha the irony.

TTT: I think he is puppeterin DP. “DP, dmb is using nai on you”, I mean, this is a little of tinfoil but what if you also got that she was blue? There is that chance. You played with her and instead to see DmB in DP’s eyes you went full severe “she is scum” when generally you try to see both sides. (from last game)

I also think TTT and Vayoletta team would make perfect sense, considering he didnt want to lynch her.

My two cents.


How is DP town for mechanics ? I don‘t even know what car brand he is.

Vayoletta is Lady Gaga smurfing and Chezinu is a wild carrot.

On a more serious note, I agree with most reads here. Not as much with the MZ one, but solid post apart from the DP read which I‘d like explained.

I felt bad when he said his partner was half polish lmao.


When looking for the reason why you suspect mz found the question.

DP could have died trying to change the lynch over baby, the think is, as mafia you dont do that, he cant ensure Vayoletta would get lynched. Too risky.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 18:45 GMT
#1620
On June 14 2023 03:25 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 07:30 Chezinu wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:27 Chezinu wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 04:39 Vayoletta wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So okay DP.

In my opinion you asking me who to lynch right now only really makes sense if you think i should have or could have a scum read based on something in the game. Did you think i should have a scumread at that point of the game and if yes, then who would that be and why? If you don't, why did you ask the question -- and furthermore why did you try to "force" me to answer when i clearly said i can't answer at that point?


Tbh this is a normal way to start the game. Of course we can´t know already who is who or if somebody make scum or not. Its imposible to manage it in the first 10 posts of the game and just 3-4 players are active right now. But how else should the game get started. It seems like a normal questing to just ignore chez and slam usually meme/troll posts. Somebody has to make a start here and this is just a normal way. Only second game here but seems normal to me (for now)


This.


Not always, mafia can pretend to “scumhunt” and engage conversation.


Cakeroni, who’s pretending to scumhunt here?


On June 11 2023 06:17 Vayoletta wrote:
On June 11 2023 05:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Re: CopCake

Also not a fan of lynching her. She seemed to take genuine offense at being called mafia, which is an objectively townie trait. I take those emotions (especially sustained, over a long period of posting) in much higher regard than some weird sequence of posting early in the game.


Copcake is aggressive in a way that would come natural for town, but would have to be faked for wolf. Is Copcake a faker with a poker face or not?



Like you think this might be going somewhere, but where is it going? It's alluding to having reads but not actually having a read.

Is this like an edgy meta from another site?

Anyway don't like this.


Everybody be pointing them fingers. Watch out you got three coming your way.


I always have them pointed my way. This game is not about survival Chez. do you know what that means?

You play very different. I end game win. You die win.


So we got Chez posting the two pictures. His job changed, presumably. I‘d like to interpret a boatload into it and maybe even find a reason to see it as crumb, but couldn‘t. So he‘ll be left with a corny joke instead. Nice badges tho.

Then there‘s this post that suggests that DP dying would win him the game, while Chez reaching endgame would make him win.

Colour me crazy but it‘s like those two are playing a game within a game and DP gets it, throws everything overboard and drops a vote on him.

It makes me so curious that I refuse to vote any of either for the rest of the game, maybe.


I am so confused by this and I have a headache
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 18:50 GMT
#1621
On June 14 2023 02:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'll tell ya what doesn't sit right with me. It's LightingStrike going afk the second pressure is off of him. If the last scum isn't Chez I might take another look at our "tracker"


Only way LS is mafia is if he fake claimed and he got lucky enough that is a blur role another person doesnt have. I don’t know if there could be three blue roles, but there were only two last games.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 20:58 GMT
#1685
I have been lurking, letting people do what they have to do without me interfering, like if I was in a obvs so I could have better reads and a open scenario of what is happening.

MZ, am I town?

Because suddenly your reads became exactly almost the same as mine.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 21:02 GMT
#1689
On June 14 2023 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is MZ less likely to be mafia than marv?


Am I considering my read, I remeber him saying that he didnt like my post (when I said that TTT and DP were difficult opponents to deal if I was mafia) (btw this is not an insult or anything) and he said he hated my post.

After I made my read and talked about TTT/Vayoletta combo he came to same conclusion and I am ??????

His LS case on D1 is still good.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 21:05 GMT
#1690
Where is Vayoletta’s rankin? I cant find a list.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 23:04 GMT
#1716
I am so bad with irl. My body language betrays me.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 23:13 GMT
#1721
On June 14 2023 08:08 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 08:04 CopCake wrote:
I am so bad with irl. My body language betrays me.

What type of CopCake are you?

Are you a cake?

Or

Are you the cake's cop?


You are what you eat says a wise saying.

Slam took us to cheesecake factory. It was a nice surprise to find out they sell other stuff besides cake.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 23:19 GMT
#1725
On June 14 2023 08:09 Vayoletta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 08:04 CopCake wrote:
I am so bad with irl. My body language betrays me.




Pooooorrrrrrr unfortunate souls

I saw youtube videos of the live action and I had some songs stuck on my head.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 23:20 GMT
#1727
On June 14 2023 08:17 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 08:13 CopCake wrote:
On June 14 2023 08:08 Chezinu wrote:
On June 14 2023 08:04 CopCake wrote:
I am so bad with irl. My body language betrays me.

What type of CopCake are you?

Are you a cake?

Or

Are you the cake's cop?


You are what you eat says a wise saying.

Slam took us to cheesecake factory. It was a nice surprise to find out they sell other stuff besides cake.

I ate there for the first time this year.


Was it Slam?
Yeah, for us was also first time, but the portions are huge! We had to leave a lot of leftovers
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 00:12 GMT
#1749
Those are so beautiful

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 00:43 GMT
#1764
On June 14 2023 09:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 09:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax please switcherino?

Any reason? I don't think he been scummy tbh


You… want vivax not to vote for the same person you are voting and you dont find him scummy?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 00:43 GMT
#1765
…

………


…………..
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 00:47 GMT
#1775
Tinfoiling now there is a cop in the shadows with that LS post

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 01:18 GMT
#1801
That LS post just made my head explode
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 01:22 GMT
#1802
On June 14 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 08:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Vayoletta (5): marvellosity, Vivax, Meapak_Ziphh, DarthPunk, Chezinu, Vivax, TankTopTiger
TankTopTiger (5): rayneplikoneet, LightningStrike, Vayoletta, Vivax, CopCake, Chezinu, Vivax
CopCake (1): DarthPunk, Chezinu, TankTopTiger
Chezinu (0): DarthPunk
marvellosity (0): Vivax

Not Voting (1): Alakaslam

With 5 votes, Vayoletta is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 14 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



How am I suddenly mafia with TTT and Vayoletta?




CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 01:26 GMT
#1806
On June 14 2023 09:43 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 09:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 14 2023 09:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax please switcherino?

Any reason? I don't think he been scummy tbh


You… want vivax not to vote for the same person you are voting and you dont find him scummy?


This one, it was a wild ride.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 01:27 GMT
#1808
Like, if MZ pushed your lynch because you are mafia with him and suddenly you got saved with a fake claim.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 01:29 GMT
#1814
But that scenario wouldnt make sense, I think someone else would have soft pushed you even with your claim. And it would have been time to that person to out himself/herself.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 11:32 GMT
#1958
Why does no one else consider Chezinu a top tier supreme class mafia?

He fooled everyone with Luca Gallo.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 11:35 GMT
#1961
Idk which other games chezinu has been mafia, but that is one of the games I’ll never forget.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 13:34 GMT
#1982
On June 14 2023 21:35 TankTopTiger wrote:
Okay well then... I guess that deadends that line of thinking then. Thanks anyway.


?????

Why don’t you wait for others to answer you before you come to a conclusion?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 17:17 GMT
#1987
I am sorry, I am going to sound “tunelled” but in my mind the only person I can think of being mafia playing us all is TTT.

- He is not trying to solve the game:
• he doesnt read chezinu because is a waste of time (he said so)
• cares about activity but doesnt read posts (slam)
• when provided with information of past games he doesnt care (my links of previous games)
• tinfoils something I tinfoiled earlier (LS) yet I am his biggest red read
• only cares about DP’s opinion and maybe rayn’s and marv because he is a “deity”
• “mafia wanted to lynch me because i was so good last game” therefore all my wagon is mafia.

Now Rayn is mafia because ????????????? He doesnt read me correctly? Consider and judge his actions not just the answers he can provide.

So by his list only DP and Marv are town.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 21:20 GMT
#1997
On June 15 2023 06:07 Chezinu wrote:
ryan not finding mafia yet is sus. Vivax usually good at scumhunting. Copcake what ya think?


If Rayn is alive by the next day he might be mafia

#cheesefacts

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 21:23 GMT
#1998
And rayn tried to save Vayo so that would mean TTT is town if that is the world we are living.

But i doubt it, I was like the easiest misslynch day 1
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 21:26 GMT
#1999
TTT/Mz/(marv/vivax)????
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 21:30 GMT
#2000
In which realm do you live chezinu? Who are you mafia?

Write their names in ai image generator and type mafia in it.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 23:41 GMT
#2033
Idk how Happa’s dead makes me town?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 23:47 GMT
#2044
But in obvs I was right about marv and rayn wasnt?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 14 2023 23:54 GMT
#2056
On June 15 2023 08:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 15 2023 08:50 DarthPunk wrote:
You know what is weird to me Rayn, you are really the only one who has strong opinions and reads this game and after two mislynces it makes more sense to have doubts and be disoriented. It is sus as hell because you literally lead a mislynch on the doctor day 1 and your case on TTT wasn't that good.

And yet you are super super confident that MZ and TTT are mafia, and while I have made it clear its possible, the lack of doubt from you over these reads is freaking me out, particularly after you said before vayo you didn't mind if they flipped because one of marv and vayo are mafia, and now you are not calling marv mafia.

Your confidence vs activity vs townliness ratios are all fucking wrong this game.

I dont give a shit, i didnt lead a mislynch D2.


OK, you lynched the DOC day D1 and literally said you were ok with a Vayo lynch because either her or marv were scum.


Say what?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 00:28 GMT
#2117
DP, if you live in the world TTT and Mz are mafia, who is the third?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 00:35 GMT
#2127
Problem is, if rayn was mafia, why try to win enemies now?

And he DID tried to save Vayo
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 00:52 GMT
#2152
On June 15 2023 09:37 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 09:35 CopCake wrote:
Problem is, if rayn was mafia, why try to win enemies now?

And he DID tried to save Vayo


Does he not do that as mafia? Flame people I mean? haven't seen his scum play in a while, but i read sf his last scum game and he definitely was getting into it with people in that game.



Yeah, I was scum with him and rels and we got found out pretty fast. (I think that was the last)

If Rayn was mafia he would be in a more comfortable position rn. He is townreaded.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 00:53 GMT
#2153
Or was townreaded
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 01:40 GMT
#2219
On June 15 2023 10:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Read this fucking shit, it doesnt make any sense. MZ -> mafia

TTT -> mafia still (marv if youre town and really smart go through his N2 posts and see whats wrong, dont count on DP)

Why is hapa killed and everyone who called out cake alive? i have my own reasons for thinking cake i town but look at it please. also good TTT + MZ. fucking lynch the shit out of them.

If TTT ever flips town, cake can be mafia. my read has evolved, but like... it is possible. i dont think it is likely or even plausible, but possible. I am sorry i cant give you better answer.

DP is bad as fuck but town.

marv.... you can do this man.

Slam is just town, Chezinu not getting this gives me bad vibes.

Same Vivax. Same Chezinu vibes here.

Chezinu mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... i see you! even when i die i see you!!!
Lynch if after ttt and mz there is mislynch.


Why am I town?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 01:49 GMT
#2233
On June 15 2023 10:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Cake:

Is rayn more likely to post like this as scum or town in your opinion?


I told you before, let’s say rayn is mafia, he is not getting grilled, why throw a tantrum?

At least it doesnt make sense to me why he would do that as mafia. He has use ate before but only when he is getting heat.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 01:56 GMT
#2241
On June 15 2023 10:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 10:49 CopCake wrote:
On June 15 2023 10:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Cake:

Is rayn more likely to post like this as scum or town in your opinion?


I told you before, let’s say rayn is mafia, he is not getting grilled, why throw a tantrum?

At least it doesnt make sense to me why he would do that as mafia. He has use ate before but only when he is getting heat.


Gives him a plausible reason to not be night killed?


Could be but I guess he is just setting straight his point in case he dies.

So can either survive or prepares people with his reads

Win / win
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 02:06 GMT
#2256
Could be that mafia is also mia and didnt see this 🤷🏽‍♀️
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 11:25 GMT
#2386
I am catching up
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 11:40 GMT
#2399
The problem with the case is the “but” of the last paragraph of first quoted post.

Does he mean he read DP later or he still has it at scum there?

I dont wanna be played by “missunderstanding” so I wanna be sure.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 11:40 GMT
#2400
Has him*
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 11:44 GMT
#2406
Btw I dont remember playing with Happa, if so he would have a nickname, just like baby became jelly beans or marv was marshmallow the first time I played with him.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 11:50 GMT
#2407
On June 15 2023 20:41 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 20:40 CopCake wrote:
The problem with the case is the “but” of the last paragraph of first quoted post.

Does he mean he read DP later or he still has it at scum there?

I dont wanna be played by “missunderstanding” so I wanna be sure.


He said he thought I was mafia for a good while.

and then says he doesn't understand why I had any votes day one.

Pretty clear to me why that doesn't mesh CC.


Ok, I need to check the times and see the flow of the thread but that was actually a good find, it would make sense with “mafia was mia”
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 11:53 GMT
#2409
It feels so weird to be working with DP
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 12:01 GMT
#2414
On June 15 2023 06:26 CopCake wrote:
TTT/Mz/(marv/vivax)????


-
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 12:09 GMT
#2415
Worlds I am living:

If Marv is mafia:

1.- Is he part of a mia (absent) group?
2.- Is he the lesser mafia (goon) and is being sacrificed?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 12:14 GMT
#2418
I can feel rayn yelling at me via obvsq even if we are not in the same place
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 12:35 GMT
#2426
On June 15 2023 21:16 DarthPunk wrote:
Copcake do you think Marv is mafia or not? because I'm still not clear on you position on it. Your vote is on TTT.

So you aren't really working with me, you know.


I think he could be mafia with TTT and be the lesser mafia. If TTT is town and marv mafia, they are going to clash.

You can’t ask me to change my top scum read just like that.

I have like millions of reasons to scum read TTT, you need to understand that.

I promise you that, after the clash, TTT sounds more town and clears himself, I’ll vote marv.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 12:36 GMT
#2427
On June 15 2023 21:33 DarthPunk wrote:
why copcake leave with this unresolved?


?????

I was posting while doing other stuff, I didnt leave

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 12:57 GMT
#2429
Do you think I would make that mistake as mafia? :p

Besides I understand irl happens.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 13:03 GMT
#2431
On June 15 2023 22:00 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 21:57 CopCake wrote:
Do you think I would make that mistake as mafia? :p

Besides I understand irl happens.


what mistake are you talking about?


To leave in the middle of a discussion like that
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 13:11 GMT
#2433
Yeah, I hate when people make cases when someone goes mia, like the lunch thing from early. I think it is very stupid and a mafia trait to use that as “info” when it is something you cant verify.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 16:07 GMT
#2440
On June 16 2023 00:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 16:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 15 2023 16:46 TankTopTiger wrote:
So you don't trust Marv? How confident are you? No hyperbole please.

Part of me hopes it's CC. If it is, Rayn cost us the game after all that bluster bs and not me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (jkjk<3).
But at the same time, I think it'd be really hard to pocket a partner and not have that cause relationship issues. And out of the two, Rayn is considered stronger, so it's less likely she pulled one over him this hard.

Presumably, they live together? Rayn dead now should have asked before.


I don't fucking know dude. I feel pretty terrible at this game right now.

Everytime you post I think you are town, and I know you could be master manipulating me here, but I just think the way you post is like you are playing as you would if you were gonna get mislynched.

I have no fucking idea why rayn was so confident about his reads, and maybe I am just bad and you and MZ are 1000 percent mafia.

If it was marv and vivax and copcake I would not be surprised.

Like I even forgot vivax existed this game, he is apparently super engaged by scumhunting based off his posts from last game, and marv called him unlynchable after day 1 the previous game.

Did he and cake pocket rayn? (used to be rayns major weakness as town)

If it was you and mz +1 I would not be surprised.

I am so fucking disoriented in this game.

At the moment I kind of want to lynch cake because she was a 100 percent scum read, but after rayns flip its more likely she is town.

So no, I'm not confident on marv, I'm not confident on anyone at all.

I don't think slam would use IRL stuff as an excuse to win as mafia.

and LS is town until otherwise proven.

So pretty much those are my only town reads.


I am evil enough to do it, but not inventive enough. This is crazier than I could ever have imagined. I never knew home could just suddenly become a literally creepy place. I am so glad my lease is up Aug 8, so I have an excuse to establish a new one elsewhere Pronto. But it is damnably expensive!


I am that pikachu gif with the D: face
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 16:08 GMT
#2441
Slam, I actually care what you think in this scenario:

Your top 3 mafia if you have to pick assap

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 16:10 GMT
#2442
On June 15 2023 22:21 TankTopTiger wrote:
Just FYI I don't really think I'm going to clash with Marv? I don't see the point.



If marv is mafia O_o he will talk his bullshit out to lynch you and I expect you to fight if you are town.


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 16:13 GMT
#2443
What was from last game that someone said something like maf marv gives up or something?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 16:15 GMT
#2444
Did DP ever feel hard AtE with Marv last game? When he got misslynch?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 16:24 GMT
#2445
No, no, TTT and that is it, I won’t tinfoil. I won’t overthink.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 18:06 GMT
#2478
Slam you just said mz is being framed and here you said he is your scum top 3, same page…
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 18:07 GMT
#2480
Like literally same page
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 18:09 GMT
#2484
How is that even possible?

If he is framed is because he is town. No?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 18:11 GMT
#2486
On June 16 2023 03:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Also on coffee break rapid fire questions now


I bought peanuts today as snack for lunch.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 18:12 GMT
#2487
On June 16 2023 03:10 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2023 03:09 CopCake wrote:
How is that even possible?

If he is framed is because he is town. No?

New information new interpretation


You are super flash and on fire 🔥

It seems like you are drinking 8 red bulls
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 18:15 GMT
#2490
It is the 6 pack that get him to be zen
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 18:22 GMT
#2496
What is this think of Daddymarv and Daddypunk?

Is there even Daddychez?

@marv not so sure, like you just saw the slam thing.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 18:24 GMT
#2497
Slaaaaaaammmmmmm talk to me
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 18:28 GMT
#2499
No one is really gonna talk about Slam rn?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 18:44 GMT
#2502
I want to focus rn in the Slam thing

Because it could be slam/marv it that was a slip
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 18:46 GMT
#2503
And if it is like that, I had been the mafia toy -___-
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 18:46 GMT
#2504
Alive so I could just yell TTT

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 18:59 GMT
#2506
On June 16 2023 03:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2023 03:44 CopCake wrote:
I want to focus rn in the Slam thing

Because it could be slam/marv it that was a slip

I just told you what I think of slam and marv so why don't you answer my chez question please.


Chez with Vivax is PoE, you should know he (Chez) is hard to read but theorizing that wont help at this moment.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 19:01 GMT
#2507
How possible is

Slam/Marv/TTT?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 19:14 GMT
#2511
On June 16 2023 04:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2023 04:01 CopCake wrote:
How possible is

Slam/Marv/TTT?

So both slam and TTT are busing Marv rn? When they could have just pushed for my lynch instead?


What do you do when one of your mafia mates get caught?

DP made the case on marv.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 19:15 GMT
#2512
Also I was asking to see where I can be incorrect

All this game I have been pointing fingers at DP and TTT, now mostly TTT
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 19:21 GMT
#2513
Like my only hardcore town reads now is LS and DP

So I will wait to see what others say, specially chezinu about Slam so he can put some light into it

Slam, why did you change your read on Mz that fast?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 19:21 GMT
#2514
DP help me out on this? 🤷🏽‍♀️

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 19:22 GMT
#2515
Like do not listen to my words, read what has happened.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 19:25 GMT
#2516
No, chez is town, he was questioning rayn yesterday
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 19:25 GMT
#2517
He is actually trying to solve the game
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 19:26 GMT
#2518
On June 15 2023 09:12 Chezinu wrote:
Based on last games emo reads, DP and rayn are not mafia together.


Like this gem
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 19:26 GMT
#2519
On June 15 2023 09:40 Chezinu wrote:
Ok, time for the serious questions. Rayn have you cuddled with anyone lately? Could Vivax so easily lynch the a cuddle buddy as town?


This
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 19:28 GMT
#2520
It is weird to see a chez like that, last time I was mafia with rayn/rels he got us
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 19:29 GMT
#2521
So chez forever town, and sorry I am phoneposting on my way to do stuff so that is why the many posts.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 22:12 GMT
#2598
Slam whatever happens in the game, to me you are more important than a victory or a lose <3

You are incredible and super nice! And deserve all the love and blessings in the world.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 23:05 GMT
#2689
I take my loser crown with pride!

Also sucks that my battery died just exactly when rels posted. Lol.

I also want to post a baby seal but on phone so, here have the emoji

🦭 🦭🦭🦭🦭🦭🦭🦭

And this one for rayn

🐘
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 23:06 GMT
#2691
On June 16 2023 08:03 die_meatbaby wrote:
In the first game I almost had no clue who tf mafia is and you guys let me play till almost the end.
Second game I have 2 of 3 right and got lynched early, but anyways mafia saw the hidden messages that I am blue so I would get nk1 anyway


Tbf I didnt
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 23:11 GMT
#2699
On June 13 2023 08:45 CopCake wrote:
Ok, this is tiresome.

Top town
LS
Rayn
DP (for mechanics)
Slam
MZ (after reading his filter correctly, his LS case is chef kiss but he is town, still his progression is fluid)
Vivax has some reads similar as me and he called out DP when he suggested that LS fake claimed, last game there were only two blues so I doubt there would be more? I think DP just find scummy things (I mean LS looked scummy in the case MZ made if you take out the tone read)

Mid tones

Marv: I think rayn has been more vocal than DP so his read is ????????????

Mafia

Vayoletta: I am sorry but you asked if I was able to do a poker face but your reads seem mostly… “tone”? It is the first time we play together this so I would be more wary if I was you.

Chezinu: Chezinu is always a wild card, but his vote on rayn from last day was riperino, he was being nice to dmb like “I will stop the troll for you” but when she died he wasnt sad, he was like yes! Another blue! Ahahahahahha the irony.

TTT: I think he is puppeterin DP. “DP, dmb is using nai on you”, I mean, this is a little of tinfoil but what if you also got that she was blue? There is that chance. You played with her and instead to see DmB in DP’s eyes you went full severe “she is scum” when generally you try to see both sides. (from last game)

I also think TTT and Vayoletta team would make perfect sense, considering he didnt want to lynch her.

My two cents.


How I felt
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fQXa2S60BUE&pp=ygUdcmVnaW5hIGdlb3JnZSBidXJuIGJvb2sgY2hhb3M=
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 23:16 GMT
#2703
On June 16 2023 08:13 DarthPunk wrote:
Cake you have massive balls picking a fight with me day one, in my more youthful days I would have flamed, and death tunneled you until we were both gone. Lmao.


I could have tolerated it probably, there is one post in which i really slipped kinda but no one payed attention.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 23:17 GMT
#2704
But it was fun, you know.

Most scenarios fitted.

I wanted MZ lynched so next day we could lynch TTT

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 23:19 GMT
#2706
In my world, split the lynched between MZ and TTT and then pretend “I told you so” about TTT.

I would have probably killed LS that night or Slam.

Marv and Vivax wanted you alive for “good sport”. Not like I would have send a kill towards you anyway.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 23:20 GMT
#2707
On June 16 2023 08:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2023 08:17 CopCake wrote:
But it was fun, you know.

Most scenarios fitted.

I wanted MZ lynched so next day we could lynch TTT



this was never going to happen IMO.


Yeah but it could have worked with anyone vs TTT.

And if MZ was alive, he would have been the night kill.

If for some reason Marv was getting lynched, LS was the kill.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 23:22 GMT
#2708
Anyways, at the end, even if we could have gotten a misslynch, it would have been hella obvious I was mafia.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 23:25 GMT
#2710
On June 16 2023 08:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2023 08:20 CopCake wrote:
On June 16 2023 08:19 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 16 2023 08:17 CopCake wrote:
But it was fun, you know.

Most scenarios fitted.

I wanted MZ lynched so next day we could lynch TTT



this was never going to happen IMO.


Yeah but it could have worked with anyone vs TTT.

And if MZ was alive, he would have been the night kill.

If for some reason Marv was getting lynched, LS was the kill.

Was Marv the roleblocker?


Yup
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 23:41 GMT
#2723
On June 16 2023 08:33 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2023 08:05 CopCake wrote:
I take my loser crown with pride!

Also sucks that my battery died just exactly when rels posted. Lol.

I also want to post a baby seal but on phone so, here have the emoji

🦭 🦭🦭🦭🦭🦭🦭🦭

And this one for rayn

🐘

So, you are saying Slam won after he voted for TTT today?


Yup

You should make an AI of detective chezinu and slam winning.

Slam nailed me and marv
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 16 2023 18:49 GMT
#2750
On June 17 2023 03:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh I never really enjoyed playing, it's too stressful and I think it's similar for Tina ^^;


But you can do Obvs or host! I enjoyed more obvs.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 19 2023 12:26 GMT
#2764
On June 19 2023 15:39 Alakaslam wrote:
I visited with my daughter today


Nice news! Hope everything works out the best for you!!!
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