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On June 14 2023 17:53 TankTopTiger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 17:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 14 2023 17:32 TankTopTiger wrote:
So if there is another blue role, they sort of "know" or have reason to consider LS red, even if they are not themselves tracker?
And in that position (and I'm not claiming this), they know he's mostly gimped and they may not want to claim based on the likelihood that they've correctly guessed the setup? In the meantime, they get to take their actions and still can claim against him down the road?
Him being blue is based on seriously not much and I'm getting heaped on for not assuming him town yesterday. I was almost lynched partially based on not assuming him town.
You set it up so that if someone did hang on to their blue role, they wouldn't be believed if they counterclaimed him later. Unless I'm missing something, both you and Rayn were being stupid on this. It’s not fucking important if Rayn or I were being stupid unless you think we are both mafia together. Kinda weird that both of you did it though right? In your shoes assuming town, I might feel dumb, but I'd probably be asking why someone else made the exact same mistake? I haven't ruled out you're both mafia together, nor am I assuming it. I just think it was a stupid/boldscummy thing that two otherwise strong players did. Bonus points I get to shit on Rayn for partially basing his read on me yesterday for it.
This is not a direction that will lead to anything. Unless there is another blue claim and then we can address this stuff then.
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Okay fair enough. I want to hear Marv and Rayn on it, but I'll leave you alone with this one.
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On June 14 2023 14:38 DarthPunk wrote:
I really dont think marv is mafia FWIW.
I am not sure why anyone thinks that he is mafia.
If its for post count, he didn't play day one. and he said somewhere that he was going to post less this game.
OK I found this.
So you have noticed it but it's not throwing any alarm bells for you.
For both you and TTT, do you guys think scum have been actively influencing either of the lynches so far or do you think they've just been sliding by letting town lynch town?
Obviously TTT if you are town then scum didn't really have a lot to worry about yesterday it would seem.
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Oh and DP is you're towm make a night dump please. I know you usually do but I think this one is important. I don't really want to talk about my reasoning rn but I think you'll be the NK if town.
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On June 14 2023 17:28 DarthPunk wrote:
We can’t just have people go oh well if Rayn or Marv or do are scum go I guess. We are all catchable
If I can be lynched as town I can definitely be lynched as mafia
Not a scum claim :p
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On June 14 2023 17:32 TankTopTiger wrote:
So if there is another blue role, they sort of "know" or have reason to consider LS red, even if they are not themselves tracker?
And in that position (and I'm not claiming this), they know he's mostly gimped and they may not want to claim based on the likelihood that they've correctly guessed the setup? In the meantime, they get to take their actions and still can claim against him down the road?
Him being blue is based on seriously not much and I'm getting heaped on for not assuming him town yesterday. I was almost lynched partially based on not assuming him town.
You set it up so that if someone did hang on to their blue role, they wouldn't be believed if they counterclaimed him later. Unless I'm missing something, both you and Rayn were being stupid on this.
In my opinion it’s quite (very?) likely there’s some sort of investigative role (especially in seeming absence of vig), and highly unlikely there would ever be 2
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So Marv who's scum now, Chez? Maybe rayn? Hard to tell from your filter but I might be tired
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On June 14 2023 17:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Marv and I are tied for smallest filter with 4 pages. Last game by the time he died he had a 26 page filter.
In my defence, activity wise, I was absent for the cycle which creates the most posts and my other half is tired of losing his gorgeous man to mafia (both mentioned pre game). But I have been active since I’ve been playing.
I won’t make any further comments on my activity level because there’s nothing else I can ever add.
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On June 14 2023 18:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
So Marv who's scum now, Chez? Maybe rayn? Hard to tell from your filter but I might be tired
Maybe and maybe, I haven’t read the lynch yet (work) but seems clear a reassessment needs to happen.
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You could have left that last statement out and tested me on it MZ.
It's not clear to me whether they skated D1. It was a chaotic lynch. My money would be on that they didn't, because I find it unlikely LS, CC, and DP are all town. We shot with a flak cannon and it is just unlikely that no mafia were clipped at all. But DP did his chaos roulette thing, and I'm not sure how familiar people are with that, so whether or not they felt the need to actually step in is... Wifom basically.
D2 they breezed no question. Without having actually sifted through the votes, I think there would be more scum on my wagon. No shade on Vayo, but I wouldn't be surprised if people feared me late game more than Vayo who nobody has meta on and was mostly lurking/absent and giving unfounded reads. I pushed four cases last game and three were red. Regardless of whether that was lucky or not (it was), scum team would see me struggling early and seize the opportunity to not have to find out whether I can reproduce it.
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On June 14 2023 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 14:38 DarthPunk wrote:
I really dont think marv is mafia FWIW.
I am not sure why anyone thinks that he is mafia.
If its for post count, he didn't play day one. and he said somewhere that he was going to post less this game. OK I found this. So you have noticed it but it's not throwing any alarm bells for you. For both you and TTT, do you guys think scum have been actively influencing either of the lynches so far or do you think they've just been sliding by letting town lynch town? Obviously TTT if you are town then scum didn't really have a lot to worry about yesterday it would seem.
If TTT is town then mafia had to do nothing yesterday.
Just looking back at day 1, mafia also didn’t have to do anything unless DP is mafia. In that scenario though, maf were playing a dangerous game as the vote numbers were very low and he could easily have been lynched “by accident” from a rogue vote or two.
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On June 14 2023 18:13 TankTopTiger wrote:
You could have left that last statement out and tested me on it MZ.
It's not clear to me whether they skated D1. It was a chaotic lynch. My money would be on that they didn't, because I find it unlikely LS, CC, and DP are all town. We shot with a flak cannon and it is just unlikely that no mafia were clipped at all. But DP did his chaos roulette thing, and I'm not sure how familiar people are with that, so whether or not they felt the need to actually step in is... Wifom basically.
D2 they breezed no question. Without having actually sifted through the votes, I think there would be more scum on my wagon. No shade on Vayo, but I wouldn't be surprised if people feared me late game more than Vayo who nobody has meta on and was mostly lurking/absent and giving unfounded reads. I pushed four cases last game and three were red. Regardless of whether that was lucky or not (it was), scum team would see me struggling early and seize the opportunity to not have to find out whether I can reproduce it.
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On June 14 2023 18:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 18:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
So Marv who's scum now, Chez? Maybe rayn? Hard to tell from your filter but I might be tired Maybe and maybe, I haven’t read the lynch yet (work) but seems clear a reassessment needs to happen.
This is where I'm at right now but I'm slightly unsettled you don't have more.
But you did tall about your activity level pregame you're right. Sigh
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On June 14 2023 18:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 14 2023 14:38 DarthPunk wrote:
I really dont think marv is mafia FWIW.
I am not sure why anyone thinks that he is mafia.
If its for post count, he didn't play day one. and he said somewhere that he was going to post less this game. OK I found this. So you have noticed it but it's not throwing any alarm bells for you. For both you and TTT, do you guys think scum have been actively influencing either of the lynches so far or do you think they've just been sliding by letting town lynch town? Obviously TTT if you are town then scum didn't really have a lot to worry about yesterday it would seem. If TTT is town then mafia had to do nothing yesterday. Just looking back at day 1, mafia also didn’t have to do anything unless DP is mafia. In that scenario though, maf were playing a dangerous game as the vote numbers were very low and he could easily have been lynched “by accident” from a rogue vote or two.
I think other people have already talked about it but this is one of the biggest reasons why DP is town to me bc he was so willing to take risks with his own life EOD day 1 to try and get what was in his mind the best lynch.
Do you agree with TTT's assessment that there were likely more scum on his wagon (assuming he's town?)
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On June 14 2023 18:13 TankTopTiger wrote:
You could have left that last statement out and tested me on it MZ.
It's not clear to me whether they skated D1. It was a chaotic lynch. My money would be on that they didn't, because I find it unlikely LS, CC, and DP are all town. We shot with a flak cannon and it is just unlikely that no mafia were clipped at all. But DP did his chaos roulette thing, and I'm not sure how familiar people are with that, so whether or not they felt the need to actually step in is... Wifom basically.
D2 they breezed no question. Without having actually sifted through the votes, I think there would be more scum on my wagon. No shade on Vayo, but I wouldn't be surprised if people feared me late game more than Vayo who nobody has meta on and was mostly lurking/absent and giving unfounded reads. I pushed four cases last game and three were red. Regardless of whether that was lucky or not (it was), scum team would see me struggling early and seize the opportunity to not have to find out whether I can reproduce it.
Of LS, CC, and DP which do you think is most likely scum from D1?
I agree with your D2 assessment if you're town, even the part about there being more scum on your wagon. A tomorrow project for me is going to be looking at the folks on there.
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I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo
I don’t think it’s much though
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Just read the lynch and it didn’t move me much in any direction.
Slam looks worse and Chez looks better.
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On June 14 2023 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo
I don’t think it’s much though
I think the wagon is spread the only person suspect in my mind from vote switching day 2 is vivax.
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On June 14 2023 18:28 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo
I don’t think it’s much though I think the wagon is spread the only person suspect in my mind from vote switching day 2 is vivax.
Which only really makes sense if TTT is maf
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On June 14 2023 18:28 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo
I don’t think it’s much though I think the wagon is spread the only person suspect in my mind from vote switching day 2 is vivax.
Vivax had stated real reasons why he would rather lynch ttt over Vayo and Rayn asks him to swap and he does immediately.
Hypothetically If maf were trying to keep wagons close and still lynch ttt vivax is sus.
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