• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:31
CEST 13:31
KST 20:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism0Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?111Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!46
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL: II Winner Will Earn a Spot at HSC 30! Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly SC2 INu's Battles#20 [BO.9]
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This
Brood War
General
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! ASL22 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: Calm's Big Brain Play Vs Mini
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group B [ASL22] Ro16 Group A [ASL22] Ro24 Group F [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
F* the Children and Get Off …
TrAiDoS
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6721 users

TL Endures Mafia II - Page 9

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 18 Next All
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 04:21 GMT
#1201
Or like at face value, if you just read his posts, they look okayish, but if you actually know what has been happening in the game he isn't really saying anything at all.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 04:22 GMT
#1202
But it's okay, i am gonna wait for his posts on marv & Vayoletta, since there is at least one mafia there too.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 15:25 GMT
#1340
On June 12 2023 22:50 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 22:47 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 11:11 Chezinu wrote:
raynpelikoneet
Vivax

Meapak_Ziphh

marvellosity
DarthPunk

Vayoletta
CopCake

TankTopTiger - saved for endgame with Slam


————-


What does that even mean? he is not calling anyone anything there.


Top people tend to be town, and the deeper, the scummier, that is how most people do lists here.


On June 12 2023 22:52 DarthPunk wrote:
It seems like you are incredibly conscious of any, even remote suspicion towards you.

This is also a classic mafia trait, more focused on suspicion towards you than determining the alignment of others.

You can't be fucking serious DP?
Everyone probably understood that list post,...
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 15:56 GMT
#1351
This is so annoying because i am really just waiting for marv to post and i don't have any clue if he is actually playing or asked for replacement.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 15:58 GMT
#1352
On June 13 2023 00:49 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 12 2023 22:50 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 22:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 22:47 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 11:11 Chezinu wrote:
raynpelikoneet
Vivax

Meapak_Ziphh

marvellosity
DarthPunk

Vayoletta
CopCake

TankTopTiger - saved for endgame with Slam


————-


What does that even mean? he is not calling anyone anything there.


Top people tend to be town, and the deeper, the scummier, that is how most people do lists here.


On June 12 2023 22:52 DarthPunk wrote:
It seems like you are incredibly conscious of any, even remote suspicion towards you.

This is also a classic mafia trait, more focused on suspicion towards you than determining the alignment of others.

You can't be fucking serious DP?
Everyone probably understood that list post,...


People misunderstood the list. That was me putting people in possible Mafia group. TTT was last cause Slam gotz to kill TTT last.

Okay. Too bad, then i have to retract from my townread on you because it would be a good reads ost.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 17:30 GMT
#1363
Welcome back marv. I am working until 6:30 am, i am just gonna check at times and let you do your thing. I'm gonna post my thoughts in the morning when i get home and have full access to quote from filters and shit, not really fan of doing it at work although i have access to computer here.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 17:44 GMT
#1368
On June 13 2023 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
Think I’m missing something with the Slam townreads as I can’t differentiate his play so much from last game so far.

Short answer from my part would be he seems more "happy" than last game.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 17:53 GMT
#1370
Nope, it's not too much.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 18:23 GMT
#1372
Whoever said MZ is town because he cared about the lynch, is not making a very good read. MZ's targets were LS and Vayoletta. We know Ls is like 99% blue, so unless MZ is mafia with Vayoletta, this is very safe thing to do to "look like caring" when noone is on the line from mafia team -- and multiple people had even said they are not up for policy lynch.

On June 11 2023 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 10:41 Hapahauli wrote:
I really dislike that this game is just a shadow of the previous game. Feels like i'm just missing half my brain.

Well we've got 15 minutes, DMB, DP, Vayoletta, or LS.

On June 11 2023 10:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.

I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it.

I would rather policy. Worst thing that happens is Vayoletta flips town. If we don't policy, Vayoletta gets modkilled and we potentially mislynch a townie and lose 2 instead of worst case scenario 1.

In between here LS claims.
On June 11 2023 10:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LS... sigh. OK doubling down on a policy now

Now what is this?? His other lynch target drops a blue claim so he STARTS DOUBTING the only viable lynch in his mind ?????? Or is there something i am misreading in this post lol?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 18:25 GMT
#1373
Or is doubling down like "i want it more now"? If so, then forget about that post.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 18:25 GMT
#1374
On June 13 2023 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or is doubling down like "i want it more now"? If so, then forget about that post.

or the last part.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 18:27 GMT
#1375
So basically MZ's enthusiasm for caring about the lynch pretty much tells me that he is not mafia with Vayoletta, nothing more. it's kinda funny because 95% sure one of them has to be mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 18:40 GMT
#1378
On June 13 2023 03:36 Vayoletta wrote:
Im now free from my long term guest and can play properly.

My PoE right now is Vivax, Chez, Marvellosity and Mz.

I believe LS’s claim. I read Copcake and Slam town. I trust rayn’s and CopCake’s point on DP to not suspect him now, but I am not quite sold on rayn being town. I hope I will find him as I go through the material.

I hope I did not forget anyone.

I would love to hear your complete thoughts on TTT.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 18:42 GMT
#1379
Chezinu, you ol' messenger i summon thee!!!
What do you think Slam's alignment is, and can you give some reasoning behind the read please?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 20:27 GMT
#1390
On June 13 2023 05:24 marvellosity wrote:

rayn said plenty of smart things as usual and he’s had some pretty strong townreads from a couple of people (sort of blurring into one after a big read). But I’m not ready for that read yet, he is less town leadery than I would expect, a little more passive. I’m not ready to do much about it today, because he’s missing Koshi to bounce off and he’s been missing me to bounce off too. So it might all be nothing. But it might be something

How can you say this? I genuinely and single handedly lead the lynch on DMB.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 20:36 GMT
#1391
I can legit tell you two things why i am not mafia.
DP is alive and Hapa is dead.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 20:44 GMT
#1396
Does nobody really see all the problems in this post?
On June 12 2023 22:27 TankTopTiger wrote:
Okay this is just going to go on forever with you getting more and more pedantic, and we're still a way off lynch anyway.

The case is:
+ CC made a blind read on Rayn early and based her worldview off it
+ CC is not paranoid when she should be
+ CC is tunneling with confidence she didn't express last game until much later
+ CC hasn't pushed anybody but the people that question her (OMGUS)

I'm gonna leave it here for now unless you have anything but nitpicks and telling me to read entire other games when I'm struggling to keep up with this one.

I'm gonna write this whole thing open in like 7 hrs when i get home but i believe this is purely and utterly 100% mafia post.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 20:54 GMT
#1400
On June 13 2023 05:51 CopCake wrote:
Idr if it was on obvs or in game but someone mentioned that rayn is “less agressive”/“passive”, or something like that and is because his style changed and because he rolled town, I strongly believe is the same here.

He doesn’t need to shit up the thread to have control or give direction to his reads.

There is also the DP eotd thing, I don’t think mafia rayn would share that, unless they are mafia together but that is not probable, considering that both of them could have easily misslynch me.

I don't know about the first part but the second part is definitely true. Only times i have huge problems as mafia is when i am "inactive" longer times. That's why my activity doesn't tell anything about my alignment, i play when ever i can play, and even more so as mafia since if i can control the thread from the beginning it both gives me better options for mislynches and also makes me look more town.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 20:55 GMT
#1402
On June 13 2023 05:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Does nobody really see all the problems in this post?
On June 12 2023 22:27 TankTopTiger wrote:
Okay this is just going to go on forever with you getting more and more pedantic, and we're still a way off lynch anyway.

The case is:
+ CC made a blind read on Rayn early and based her worldview off it
+ CC is not paranoid when she should be
+ CC is tunneling with confidence she didn't express last game until much later
+ CC hasn't pushed anybody but the people that question her (OMGUS)

I'm gonna leave it here for now unless you have anything but nitpicks and telling me to read entire other games when I'm struggling to keep up with this one.

I'm gonna write this whole thing open in like 7 hrs when i get home but i believe this is purely and utterly 100% mafia post.

100% is super high, so my curiosity is piqued

You'll have to wait until tomorrow morning though, since i need to work too, and it's gonna take time to put everything together.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 21:06 GMT
#1409
On June 13 2023 06:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 05:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can legit tell you two things why i am not mafia.
DP is alive and Hapa is dead.


What do you mean by this?

I would have put myself into a position where i find a scumread on you and get you lynched, then argued my way out of it later, just because why not. Then i would shoot marv because marv has like 10x better eye for figuring me out than Hapa and after all i looooooove bullshitting Hapa when i am mafia, it's pretty much the only thing i take genuine pleasure in when i am mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 18 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL
11:00
2026 GSTL: Main Stage Day 5
IntoTheiNu 436
CranKy Ducklings SOOP92
Rex30
LiquipediaDiscussion
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16, Group B
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
Afreeca ASL 15315
StarCastTV_EN366
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko362
Rex 30
Trap 24
ByuN (SOOP) 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 22334
Calm 16354
Bisu 7200
BeSt 1515
EffOrt 1333
Hyun 624
Light 411
Zeus 279
Larva 207
hero 186
[ Show more ]
Stork 181
Rush 170
Mind 140
Barracks 103
ToSsGirL 79
soO 63
Terrorterran 41
HiyA 34
Sharp 32
Hm[arnc] 31
Shine 30
Sexy 26
Icarus 21
sSak 19
SilentControl 16
Noble 12
JulyZerg 11
Dota 2
Dendi1093
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss856
dupreeh229
edward130
Other Games
B2W.Neo857
XaKoH 310
crisheroes299
byalli199
KnowMe71
Liquid`LucifroN51
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 292
Other Games
Algost 1
[ Show 9 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1859
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
12h 29m
Kung Fu Cup
23h 29m
Replay Cast
1d 12h
The PondCast
1d 22h
KCM Race Survival
1d 22h
Escore
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
5 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Clem vs TBD
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-02
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.