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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 04:21 GMT
#1201
Or like at face value, if you just read his posts, they look okayish, but if you actually know what has been happening in the game he isn't really saying anything at all.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 04:22 GMT
#1202
But it's okay, i am gonna wait for his posts on marv & Vayoletta, since there is at least one mafia there too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 15:25 GMT
#1340
On June 12 2023 22:50 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 22:47 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 11:11 Chezinu wrote:
raynpelikoneet
Vivax

Meapak_Ziphh

marvellosity
DarthPunk

Vayoletta
CopCake

TankTopTiger - saved for endgame with Slam


————-


What does that even mean? he is not calling anyone anything there.


Top people tend to be town, and the deeper, the scummier, that is how most people do lists here.


On June 12 2023 22:52 DarthPunk wrote:
It seems like you are incredibly conscious of any, even remote suspicion towards you.

This is also a classic mafia trait, more focused on suspicion towards you than determining the alignment of others.

You can't be fucking serious DP?
Everyone probably understood that list post,...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 15:56 GMT
#1351
This is so annoying because i am really just waiting for marv to post and i don't have any clue if he is actually playing or asked for replacement.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 15:58 GMT
#1352
On June 13 2023 00:49 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 12 2023 22:50 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 22:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 22:47 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 11:11 Chezinu wrote:
raynpelikoneet
Vivax

Meapak_Ziphh

marvellosity
DarthPunk

Vayoletta
CopCake

TankTopTiger - saved for endgame with Slam


————-


What does that even mean? he is not calling anyone anything there.


Top people tend to be town, and the deeper, the scummier, that is how most people do lists here.


On June 12 2023 22:52 DarthPunk wrote:
It seems like you are incredibly conscious of any, even remote suspicion towards you.

This is also a classic mafia trait, more focused on suspicion towards you than determining the alignment of others.

You can't be fucking serious DP?
Everyone probably understood that list post,...


People misunderstood the list. That was me putting people in possible Mafia group. TTT was last cause Slam gotz to kill TTT last.

Okay. Too bad, then i have to retract from my townread on you because it would be a good reads ost.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 17:30 GMT
#1363
Welcome back marv. I am working until 6:30 am, i am just gonna check at times and let you do your thing. I'm gonna post my thoughts in the morning when i get home and have full access to quote from filters and shit, not really fan of doing it at work although i have access to computer here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 17:44 GMT
#1368
On June 13 2023 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
Think I’m missing something with the Slam townreads as I can’t differentiate his play so much from last game so far.

Short answer from my part would be he seems more "happy" than last game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 17:53 GMT
#1370
Nope, it's not too much.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 18:23 GMT
#1372
Whoever said MZ is town because he cared about the lynch, is not making a very good read. MZ's targets were LS and Vayoletta. We know Ls is like 99% blue, so unless MZ is mafia with Vayoletta, this is very safe thing to do to "look like caring" when noone is on the line from mafia team -- and multiple people had even said they are not up for policy lynch.

On June 11 2023 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 10:41 Hapahauli wrote:
I really dislike that this game is just a shadow of the previous game. Feels like i'm just missing half my brain.

Well we've got 15 minutes, DMB, DP, Vayoletta, or LS.

On June 11 2023 10:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.

I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it.

I would rather policy. Worst thing that happens is Vayoletta flips town. If we don't policy, Vayoletta gets modkilled and we potentially mislynch a townie and lose 2 instead of worst case scenario 1.

In between here LS claims.
On June 11 2023 10:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LS... sigh. OK doubling down on a policy now

Now what is this?? His other lynch target drops a blue claim so he STARTS DOUBTING the only viable lynch in his mind ?????? Or is there something i am misreading in this post lol?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 18:25 GMT
#1373
Or is doubling down like "i want it more now"? If so, then forget about that post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 18:25 GMT
#1374
On June 13 2023 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or is doubling down like "i want it more now"? If so, then forget about that post.

or the last part.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 18:27 GMT
#1375
So basically MZ's enthusiasm for caring about the lynch pretty much tells me that he is not mafia with Vayoletta, nothing more. it's kinda funny because 95% sure one of them has to be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 18:40 GMT
#1378
On June 13 2023 03:36 Vayoletta wrote:
Im now free from my long term guest and can play properly.

My PoE right now is Vivax, Chez, Marvellosity and Mz.

I believe LS’s claim. I read Copcake and Slam town. I trust rayn’s and CopCake’s point on DP to not suspect him now, but I am not quite sold on rayn being town. I hope I will find him as I go through the material.

I hope I did not forget anyone.

I would love to hear your complete thoughts on TTT.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 18:42 GMT
#1379
Chezinu, you ol' messenger i summon thee!!!
What do you think Slam's alignment is, and can you give some reasoning behind the read please?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 20:27 GMT
#1390
On June 13 2023 05:24 marvellosity wrote:

rayn said plenty of smart things as usual and he’s had some pretty strong townreads from a couple of people (sort of blurring into one after a big read). But I’m not ready for that read yet, he is less town leadery than I would expect, a little more passive. I’m not ready to do much about it today, because he’s missing Koshi to bounce off and he’s been missing me to bounce off too. So it might all be nothing. But it might be something

How can you say this? I genuinely and single handedly lead the lynch on DMB.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 20:36 GMT
#1391
I can legit tell you two things why i am not mafia.
DP is alive and Hapa is dead.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 20:44 GMT
#1396
Does nobody really see all the problems in this post?
On June 12 2023 22:27 TankTopTiger wrote:
Okay this is just going to go on forever with you getting more and more pedantic, and we're still a way off lynch anyway.

The case is:
+ CC made a blind read on Rayn early and based her worldview off it
+ CC is not paranoid when she should be
+ CC is tunneling with confidence she didn't express last game until much later
+ CC hasn't pushed anybody but the people that question her (OMGUS)

I'm gonna leave it here for now unless you have anything but nitpicks and telling me to read entire other games when I'm struggling to keep up with this one.

I'm gonna write this whole thing open in like 7 hrs when i get home but i believe this is purely and utterly 100% mafia post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 20:54 GMT
#1400
On June 13 2023 05:51 CopCake wrote:
Idr if it was on obvs or in game but someone mentioned that rayn is “less agressive”/“passive”, or something like that and is because his style changed and because he rolled town, I strongly believe is the same here.

He doesn’t need to shit up the thread to have control or give direction to his reads.

There is also the DP eotd thing, I don’t think mafia rayn would share that, unless they are mafia together but that is not probable, considering that both of them could have easily misslynch me.

I don't know about the first part but the second part is definitely true. Only times i have huge problems as mafia is when i am "inactive" longer times. That's why my activity doesn't tell anything about my alignment, i play when ever i can play, and even more so as mafia since if i can control the thread from the beginning it both gives me better options for mislynches and also makes me look more town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 20:55 GMT
#1402
On June 13 2023 05:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Does nobody really see all the problems in this post?
On June 12 2023 22:27 TankTopTiger wrote:
Okay this is just going to go on forever with you getting more and more pedantic, and we're still a way off lynch anyway.

The case is:
+ CC made a blind read on Rayn early and based her worldview off it
+ CC is not paranoid when she should be
+ CC is tunneling with confidence she didn't express last game until much later
+ CC hasn't pushed anybody but the people that question her (OMGUS)

I'm gonna leave it here for now unless you have anything but nitpicks and telling me to read entire other games when I'm struggling to keep up with this one.

I'm gonna write this whole thing open in like 7 hrs when i get home but i believe this is purely and utterly 100% mafia post.

100% is super high, so my curiosity is piqued

You'll have to wait until tomorrow morning though, since i need to work too, and it's gonna take time to put everything together.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 12 2023 21:06 GMT
#1409
On June 13 2023 06:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 05:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can legit tell you two things why i am not mafia.
DP is alive and Hapa is dead.


What do you mean by this?

I would have put myself into a position where i find a scumread on you and get you lynched, then argued my way out of it later, just because why not. Then i would shoot marv because marv has like 10x better eye for figuring me out than Hapa and after all i looooooove bullshitting Hapa when i am mafia, it's pretty much the only thing i take genuine pleasure in when i am mafia.
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