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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 22:37 GMT
#879
On June 11 2023 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Of course, i am giving MZ all the room he wants, i don't just want DP to defend him on false premises.


Let's agree to disagree on this one.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 22:38 GMT
#882
##Unvote: Copcake

##Vote: Vayoletta


I think this is a start actually.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 22:39 GMT
#887
On June 11 2023 07:39 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 23:40 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 10 2023 23:36 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh hm I’m not reading carefully enough. Gonna re-read and recalibrate.


The story of this game honestly. It seems like the only one actually reading properly is dmb and then she scum reads me for literally no reason. So sad.


I hate this kind of posts, so rayn doesnt read good, neither TTT


They have both misread stuff.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 22:40 GMT
#889
On June 11 2023 07:39 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 07:38 DarthPunk wrote:
##Unvote: Copcake

##Vote: Vayoletta


I think this is a start actually.

I didn't mean AFK town, I said AFK Mafia!


Who is that Chez?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 22:42 GMT
#894
On June 11 2023 07:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
To expand on the DP stuff, I'm really not impressed with anyone on that wagon right now. I'm going to start rereading filters with copcake to try and unwind the shit from yesterday.


I am also not impressed with them, for obvious reasons. Everyone on that wagon is mafia or terrible. :D
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 22:46 GMT
#901
On June 11 2023 07:42 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 07:41 Chezinu wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:40 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:39 Chezinu wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:38 DarthPunk wrote:
##Unvote: Copcake

##Vote: Vayoletta


I think this is a start actually.

I didn't mean AFK town, I said AFK Mafia!


Who is that Chez?


Don't you want to find out if Vay I'd AI or not?

Also, Vay said that they were going to be AFK before hand.


Yeah but that was the first half of the day, and afk is not really why I want to lynch her.

The two posts I quoted are bad without anything more
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 22:49 GMT
#906
On June 11 2023 07:43 Chezinu wrote:
Lynching stranger my seem easier on the heart strings, but sometimes lynching stranger is danger.


Grant me the wisdom of chupazi!

Which friends will spill red blood upon the sand when hanging?

---- for slams eyes only + Show Spoiler +
Cringe sorry slam I know I am probably not doing this right
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 22:50 GMT
#907
On June 11 2023 07:48 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 07:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:42 Chezinu wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:41 Chezinu wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:40 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:39 Chezinu wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:38 DarthPunk wrote:
##Unvote: Copcake

##Vote: Vayoletta


I think this is a start actually.

I didn't mean AFK town, I said AFK Mafia!


Who is that Chez?


Don't you want to find out if Vay I'd AI or not?

Also, Vay said that they were going to be AFK before hand.


Yeah but that was the first half of the day, and afk is not really why I want to lynch her.

The two posts I quoted are bad without anything more


It's a policy lynch - you really don't need to justify it more than that.


I'm more likely to lynch her based on the posts she has made. If she was just straight up AFK I probably wouldn't be interested.

So not quite a policy lynch, policy adjacent maybe.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 22:57 GMT
#911
Now I know how marv felt last game, inevitably heading towards a mislynch day one for the first time, despite actually trying and not knowing for what reason people think I am mafia.

Quite invigorating.

I'll write up a before flip post just in case, I guess.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 23:06 GMT
#920
The problem is that while I think there is probably mafia on my wagon, I do think DMB is town in this spot. now obviously I will vote for her being lynched over me, but I don't think this is it.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 23:07 GMT
#922
On June 11 2023 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I just genuinely don't think someone can change the way they think completely in such timespan. It's like LS being no matter how wrong in reading people just by meta he still does it every time. (no offense to LS i am not saying youre terrible or anything, just to make an example that if person's mind works in one way it's REALLY hard to change that way of thinking as town)


I agree generally with this, and it is still wild to me how different the posting is across both games. I don't think i've ever seen anything like it.


I also agree with this, and I would prefer to lynch LS over DMB.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 23:08 GMT
#923
On June 11 2023 08:07 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 11 2023 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I just genuinely don't think someone can change the way they think completely in such timespan. It's like LS being no matter how wrong in reading people just by meta he still does it every time. (no offense to LS i am not saying youre terrible or anything, just to make an example that if person's mind works in one way it's REALLY hard to change that way of thinking as town)


I agree generally with this, and it is still wild to me how different the posting is across both games. I don't think i've ever seen anything like it.


I also agree with this, and I would prefer to lynch LS over DMB.


Never mind, I didn't read properly.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 23:09 GMT
#925
Did you guys read her play at the end of last game? if you ignore the batshit crazy shit towards the start this game is similar IMO.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 23:31 GMT
#933
On June 11 2023 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think it is at all.


Yeah. I actually read both filters and you are right, the impression was similar to me, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 23:33 GMT
#935
On June 11 2023 08:31 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think it is at all.


Yeah. I actually read both filters and you are right, the impression was similar to me, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.


FWIW I think it could be explained from a tight schedule, and I hope if DMB is town then she will come and defend herself.

Better her than me though.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 10 2023 23:40 GMT
#937
TTT where are you at? What do you make of all this?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 11 2023 00:36 GMT
#946
On June 11 2023 09:31 TankTopTiger wrote:
Okay all caught up.

What do I make of it all?

Re: DMB
Rayn you say people can't change but you believe CC when she says that she's changed out of the blue. DP you believe at least somewhat (as do I) that LS has undertaken a large change in his playstyle. Out of the three people, I think DMB is the most expected to change because she's still in the stage where she's figuring out the game.

That said, this change is kind of weird. She's certainly exercising vastly more awareness and restraint. Last game, she was gung ho on Vivax, she had direction, and then after Vivax flipped she seemed like she lacked direction. This game, she still seems like she lacks direction (her suspicion of DP feels arbitrary to me, but apparently I'm against the grain on that), but she has poise and is putting more effort into evaluating the game. This could be indicative of an alignment shift from last game (people's engagement is different for different alignments), or it could be that she was super motivated after feeling powerless last game.

I wouldn't be upset with her lynch but she's not my preference.


If you haven’t looked at her filters side by side and are basing this off just the impressions she left I recommend doing so.

It makes a dramatic difference, last game she was a lot more pro town especially at the end. Clearly scum hunting, town reading people.

If this game is improvement she has improved backwards.

Im not as confident as Rayn et all. seems to be though.

And I would love some other reads from copcake.

She was spewing reads In The obs thread last game this game is a tunnel on me and then a bit of an adjacent tunnel on you.

Looking forward to hearing something else.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 11 2023 00:49 GMT
#948
On June 11 2023 09:46 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: DarthPunk


Wtf is this vivax? Why do you think I am mafia?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 11 2023 01:02 GMT
#958
On June 11 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
The votes were simultaneous but uncoordinated. Vivax+DMB team unlikely.


Does it make dmb more likely town tho?. She is actively harming her chances of survival by removing herself from my wagon.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 11 2023 01:11 GMT
#961
On June 11 2023 10:05 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 09:49 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 09:46 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: DarthPunk


Wtf is this vivax? Why do you think I am mafia?


You don‘t operate in good faith and neither does TTT is my simplified answer.

I got a shitton of bad vibes from dmbs big post but you and him instajumping on it made me reconsider.

Also there‘s some seriously wicked shit going on with AI while I play mafia games.


You really think I won’t vote for her to save me? And at the time you voted ttt was not in her wagon.

This doesn’t make sense
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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