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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 13 2023 04:58 GMT
#1503
Point 3 of your analysis is a really good one imo, it bothered me when I was rereading TTT that he put so much stock in CopCake's activity in the Obs QT when that's such a different environment from an actual game. TTT tries to play it off as relying on Meta (he talks about meta reads a lot) but trying to derive meta from an Obs chat is invalid.

That was really solid analysis. I'm gonna sleep on it but I think that might be enough to do away with my remaining thoughts that TTT might be town due to his post structure/tone.

I am hurt to be catching random strays in your analysis though
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 13 2023 15:46 GMT
#1603
Read my filter vivax
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 13 2023 15:50 GMT
#1604
On June 14 2023 00:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 03:36 Vayoletta wrote:
Im now free from my long term guest and can play properly.

My PoE right now is Vivax, Chez, Marvellosity and Mz.

I believe LS’s claim. I read Copcake and Slam town. I trust rayn’s and CopCake’s point on DP to not suspect him now, but I am not quite sold on rayn being town. I hope I will find him as I go through the material.

I hope I did not forget anyone.

Is this person really town?

##vote: Vayoletta

Remarkable lack of traction on someone who hasn’t come to play.

And yes yes I missed days but I’m here now trying to win.

Thank fuck I felt like I was taking crazy pills for a bit.

The way people call Vayoletta scummy then refuse to vote her reminds me of how LS skated along last game.

Also I don't buy TTT's giving up post halfway through the day.

I could very easily see a Vayoletta/TTT/Chez team at this point with all 3 of them attempting to soft bus each other to varying degrees.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 13 2023 16:05 GMT
#1607
On June 14 2023 00:58 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 00:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Read my filter vivax


I did. It‘s very aesthetic. You got diamond encrusted palladium shitters at work with an engraved signature from Jimmy Wales?

You treat TTT in a way a mafia would probably do for a teammate. So while your reads are decidedly impressive, you read me town after all while I can‘t really back your reasoning behind it and think that even if we lynched mafia here that you have been pushing, I still wouldn‘t trust you enough to give you a townread.

Lmao this is like a carbon copy of Marv's read of me from last game lol

Fine let's lynch all my suspects and if we haven't won by then you can waste a lynch on me since we should at least have 2/3 scum down.

"Meapak town read me while I was trying to troll so he's mafia" honestly fuck off with that trash lol. You made sense when you were talking about TTT.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 13 2023 16:35 GMT
#1613
On June 14 2023 01:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:23 Vivax wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 00:15 Vivax wrote:
On June 13 2023 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I also just reread Vivax and actually found myself nodding along to a lot of it. His filter is a lot more coherent than I was expecting and I am no longer townreading TTT in the slightest. He's null at best now.


I don‘t believe this dude read my filter and found himself nodding along with it and then leaving me at null.

That has to be a lie with a fake read along with it cause he should’ve been turned into an hysterical bobblehead at minimum. I also think I’m far from coherent.

He’s saying TTt is null, not you


Oh, poor comprehension on my part. I blame my goofy mood.
Nevertheless that commentary on me didn‘t lead him anywhere while I think it should. If I recall correctly, at the time I had TTT in my crosshairs so if he agreed with me like he said he did that shouldn‘t be a null.

I‘m going to opt for the rare and illustrious vayo vote with you but I‘m open to voring MZ at EoD for that post alone cause I don‘t believe him.

##Vote: Vayoletta

Do you think MZ and Vayo can be mafia together?


I don‘t discount it. MZ has still to place a vote and when the circle tightens and nobody is around to like your dog, mafia needs to include teammates in suspect circles but shys away from voting them.

If TTT and Vayo both were mafia, that‘d make MZ the deepscum for a shot at lategame. And they can still do enough at EoD to steer the titanic away from themselves.

I don‘t think I need to explain why EoD-centric activity peaks are more likely to be from mafia. But we‘ll see.

Vivax thanks for helping me with my read on TTT but we can take it from here.

##Vote: Vayoletta
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 13 2023 17:07 GMT
#1616
I'll tell ya what doesn't sit right with me. It's LightingStrike going afk the second pressure is off of him. If the last scum isn't Chez I might take another look at our "tracker"
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 13 2023 19:24 GMT
#1630
I'm flying tonight and won't be around for the lynch. Please do not let Vayoletta wiggle out of this.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2023 08:18 GMT
#1885
Fuck this is so annoying.

I still don't like TTT or chez but I need to open back up my aperture because clearly I'm missing something. LS still doesn't look good but he's unCC'd... of course there's no way scum kills him and hes just gonna say he was RB'd again tomorrow. Too much wifom there. I probably need to read CC and slam tomorrow.

I don't think I can scum read rayn/DP/Marv. If any of them are red I'm just gonna have to tip my hat to them.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2023 08:34 GMT
#1890
On June 14 2023 17:23 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 17:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Fuck this is so annoying.

I still don't like TTT or chez but I need to open back up my aperture because clearly I'm missing something. LS still doesn't look good but he's unCC'd... of course there's no way scum kills him and hes just gonna say he was RB'd again tomorrow. Too much wifom there. I probably need to read CC and slam tomorrow.

I don't think I can scum read rayn/DP/Marv. If any of them are red I'm just gonna have to tip my hat to them.


You need to step up mz.

OK fair.

Two questions: how do you think TTT's play is compared to last game?

How do you think Marv's play is compared to last game?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2023 08:45 GMT
#1892
I tunneled the shit out of Marv last game for certain things and I was wrong and he was town.

I've thought his posts this game have been good but his activity is starting to look a lot different than last time. I am perhaps giving him a blanket town read because I was wrong last game and I need to revisit this.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2023 08:47 GMT
#1896
I think I need to stop scum reading TTT as well.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2023 08:49 GMT
#1897
On June 14 2023 17:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 17:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 14 2023 17:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 17:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Fuck this is so annoying.

I still don't like TTT or chez but I need to open back up my aperture because clearly I'm missing something. LS still doesn't look good but he's unCC'd... of course there's no way scum kills him and hes just gonna say he was RB'd again tomorrow. Too much wifom there. I probably need to read CC and slam tomorrow.

I don't think I can scum read rayn/DP/Marv. If any of them are red I'm just gonna have to tip my hat to them.


You need to step up mz.

OK fair.

Two questions: how do you think TTT's play is compared to last game?

How do you think Marv's play is compared to last game?


I’ve talked about mz and Marv at length in my filter if you read that and still have questions I’m happy to answer them.

Dude it's 2:45am for me and I just got home from flying, I'll reread your filter tomorrow but I'm not gonna be awake much longer so for the sake of conversation right now just work with me here.

I'm trying to take a step back and reassss.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2023 08:52 GMT
#1898
Marv and I are tied for smallest filter with 4 pages. Last game by the time he died he had a 26 page filter.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2023 09:02 GMT
#1903
On June 14 2023 14:38 DarthPunk wrote:
I really dont think marv is mafia FWIW.

I am not sure why anyone thinks that he is mafia.

If its for post count, he didn't play day one. and he said somewhere that he was going to post less this game.

OK I found this.

So you have noticed it but it's not throwing any alarm bells for you.

For both you and TTT, do you guys think scum have been actively influencing either of the lynches so far or do you think they've just been sliding by letting town lynch town?

Obviously TTT if you are town then scum didn't really have a lot to worry about yesterday it would seem.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2023 09:09 GMT
#1907
So Marv who's scum now, Chez? Maybe rayn? Hard to tell from your filter but I might be tired
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2023 09:22 GMT
#1913
On June 14 2023 18:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 18:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
So Marv who's scum now, Chez? Maybe rayn? Hard to tell from your filter but I might be tired

Maybe and maybe, I haven’t read the lynch yet (work) but seems clear a reassessment needs to happen.

This is where I'm at right now but I'm slightly unsettled you don't have more.

But you did tall about your activity level pregame you're right. Sigh
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2023 09:23 GMT
#1914
On June 14 2023 18:15 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 14 2023 14:38 DarthPunk wrote:
I really dont think marv is mafia FWIW.

I am not sure why anyone thinks that he is mafia.

If its for post count, he didn't play day one. and he said somewhere that he was going to post less this game.

OK I found this.

So you have noticed it but it's not throwing any alarm bells for you.

For both you and TTT, do you guys think scum have been actively influencing either of the lynches so far or do you think they've just been sliding by letting town lynch town?

Obviously TTT if you are town then scum didn't really have a lot to worry about yesterday it would seem.

If TTT is town then mafia had to do nothing yesterday.

Just looking back at day 1, mafia also didn’t have to do anything unless DP is mafia. In that scenario though, maf were playing a dangerous game as the vote numbers were very low and he could easily have been lynched “by accident” from a rogue vote or two.

I think other people have already talked about it but this is one of the biggest reasons why DP is town to me bc he was so willing to take risks with his own life EOD day 1 to try and get what was in his mind the best lynch.

Do you agree with TTT's assessment that there were likely more scum on his wagon (assuming he's town?)
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2023 09:25 GMT
#1915
On June 14 2023 18:13 TankTopTiger wrote:
You could have left that last statement out and tested me on it MZ.

It's not clear to me whether they skated D1. It was a chaotic lynch. My money would be on that they didn't, because I find it unlikely LS, CC, and DP are all town. We shot with a flak cannon and it is just unlikely that no mafia were clipped at all. But DP did his chaos roulette thing, and I'm not sure how familiar people are with that, so whether or not they felt the need to actually step in is... Wifom basically.

D2 they breezed no question. Without having actually sifted through the votes, I think there would be more scum on my wagon. No shade on Vayo, but I wouldn't be surprised if people feared me late game more than Vayo who nobody has meta on and was mostly lurking/absent and giving unfounded reads. I pushed four cases last game and three were red. Regardless of whether that was lucky or not (it was), scum team would see me struggling early and seize the opportunity to not have to find out whether I can reproduce it.

Of LS, CC, and DP which do you think is most likely scum from D1?

I agree with your D2 assessment if you're town, even the part about there being more scum on your wagon. A tomorrow project for me is going to be looking at the folks on there.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2023 09:33 GMT
#1925
On June 14 2023 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 18:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo

I don’t think it’s much though


I think the wagon is spread the only person suspect in my mind from vote switching day 2 is vivax.

Which only really makes sense if TTT is maf

Nah it only makes sense if TTT is town.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 14 2023 09:35 GMT
#1928
On June 14 2023 18:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 18:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo

I don’t think it’s much though


I think the wagon is spread the only person suspect in my mind from vote switching day 2 is vivax.

Which only really makes sense if TTT is maf


Nah the switch back to Vayo to secure a town ! Ttt lynch.

That assumes that mafia think TTT easier to lynch than Vayo?

I think it assumes mafia wanted a TTT lynch and somehow got foiled.

But again this is all presuming an active mafia influence on the lynch.
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