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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
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June 09 2023 13:10 GMT
#350
Btw if you have question towards me, go ahead.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:11 GMT
#351
And sorry, I understood he was also making a case on me for saying I would post less <_<
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:14 GMT
#353
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:16 GMT
#356
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:17 GMT
#358
And I also said that after last game in which I was obvs I would be less paranoid of you :D
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:21 GMT
#359
On June 09 2023 22:16 TankTopTiger wrote:
For me, the main thing is why you have a town read on Rayn when that contradicts your meta of suspecting him. This meta is demonstrated in obs QT for endurance II, is evidenced by Rayn's report of your usual MO, and is expected based on your match history together of him being scum often (betrayal breeds suspicion not blind trust).

All this other stuff is squabbling compared to that. IMO your answer to this question will likely decide whether you live to see the night.


There is this thing that Rayn has rolled mafia A LOT.

Last game we were both mafia together.

And last game I was town and he mafia, he was very aggressive if I recall correctly.

There is also the stupid, "I am the cop, you idiot"

Like, idr a game in which both of us have been town.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:22 GMT
#362
Wait, when we were town together was that game when town ate each other, idr if when chezinu was mafia he was mafia with him.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:27 GMT
#365
On June 09 2023 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 09 2023 22:21 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:16 TankTopTiger wrote:
For me, the main thing is why you have a town read on Rayn when that contradicts your meta of suspecting him. This meta is demonstrated in obs QT for endurance II, is evidenced by Rayn's report of your usual MO, and is expected based on your match history together of him being scum often (betrayal breeds suspicion not blind trust).

All this other stuff is squabbling compared to that. IMO your answer to this question will likely decide whether you live to see the night.


There is this thing that Rayn has rolled mafia A LOT.

Last game we were both mafia together.

And last game I was town and he mafia, he was very aggressive if I recall correctly.

There is also the stupid, "I am the cop, you idiot"

Like, idr a game in which both of us have been town.

Holy Guardian Cht3 both you guys were town O.o


Was that the one chezinu was mafia?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:28 GMT
#366
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry

have i done that before or where do you get that idea?


Yes, you have.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:31 GMT
#372
The only thing I remember from that game is truffle, chezinu being mafia posting a shit ton of videos and VE and me being the only ones calling chezinu being a bad guy.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:32 GMT
#374
On June 09 2023 22:30 DarthPunk wrote:
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On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


Copcake is altering the narrative the slam question was asked and answered when I stated she was operating in bad faith.

It was about why I asked Rayn which was stated in the thread in the beginning the slam shit was never involved in this discussion. She just found the one question I didn’t answer immediately and used it out of context


Literally, question was asked in #179 I think and you answered in #187...
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:34 GMT
#379
On June 09 2023 22:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:28 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Cop cake what do you think Rayne alignment is?


Why was he mafia?

I think he is town


Why do you think he is town


Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry

have i done that before or where do you get that idea?


Yes, you have.


He did get emotional and angry, Marv even pointed this out in the thread so how does this make any sense.



???? What ?????

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:39 GMT
#383
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)

But you actually answered slam in #187.

So why did you answer that before?

I do believe #186 goes before #187.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:39 GMT
#384
How*
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:41 GMT
#385
I think that when rayn started to question me, you just jumped to get a misslynch. REALLY, I am asking you, if you are town, to check and read the filter, i think it is on page 12 for getting more flow ~,you didn't answer the slam question before #187.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:46 GMT
#393
#CAKEISNOTLYING2023

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:49 GMT
#396
On June 09 2023 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 09 2023 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:39 CopCake wrote:
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)

But you actually answered slam in #187.

So why did you answer that before?

I do believe #186 goes before #187.

I just checked this more into detail and yep he finally answered your question in #187 regarding his read on Slam.

I think it is some other questions DP is saying Cake is asking whihc he had answered already.


Which is that?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 13:49 GMT
#398
I am sorry
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 18:04 GMT
#426
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?


His push feels forced, I don't understand why he thinks he got a case when I explained the error of the question.

I am certified, healthy, copcake.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 09 2023 18:36 GMT
#429
On June 09 2023 22:55 TankTopTiger wrote:
Yeah I think everyone's posting a bit fast instead of taking their time, and it's making everything super confusing. I'm constantly double-taking from the misinterpretations which seem honest but unproductive.

If you want people to actually understand what happened, you need to quote the posts, in order, and probably summarise how they fit into what you're claiming.

Because I really tried to check the posts you're mentioning but I just don't understand, and I doubt other people do either.

It's not enough to be right, you need to clearly communicate why you're right.



I am going to start from the beginning
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


This is me interrogating Darth, post #174 page 9 (You can go from there and see the flow if you want)

He asked me what I think, but I needed a specific question to be answered, about reading slam because in my opinion, he really is acting very differently from last game.

On June 09 2023 15:34 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


Why is slam town?




On June 09 2023 15:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:34 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


Why is slam town?



Why don't you answer my question, and then I will answer this one.


Then he demands me to answer his question, totally fair

On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.[/QUOTE]

On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


So if you see, DP and me were talking civilian, in this order.

Then I got busy at work, then went to have a small lunch break and went to play my other game, then Rayn pointed out this:
On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?


Which I believed he was telling me that DP answered me, and in my MIND I believed he was telling me to answer asap (because I was online on another web) which I was like, hey I just went to lunch!

But the problem here, is that DP liked THAT case, and called it "oooooffff you are right rayn cake mafia", when Rayn actually quotes something DP hasn't answered.

If you were DP, and town, and you know Rayn made a mistake, wouldn't you clarify that or would you just JUMP and try to start a train over a misunderstanding?

I hope I am being clear here.
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