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On June 15 2023 15:55 marvellosity wrote:
That overnight period might be one of the wildest I’ve ever woken up to.
Slam - apologies, in my poor reading comprehension I hadn’t realised that had been happening literally now, so I row back my entire scumread. Really hope you’re okay
Who is mafia Marv? Is it really just ttt+ mz+ 1 like Rayn said?
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On June 15 2023 16:32 TankTopTiger wrote:
I can see the future, and it's not one town is going to like.
DP/Marv I think you've got to figure out whether you trust the other. Tomorrow is lylo and presumably, one of you will die to NK. If both of you are mafia, it's gg. There is no real chance of town winning at this point if that's the case, so I don't think it's worth town even considering. So I think town's best shot of getting through tomorrow is if we bet heavy on the read of our best players.
So when I flip green and you are dead, do you trust Marv/DP to mayor town through lylo or no?
We need to play risky, because we are up against a 3 stack and we will only have four.
If you are town I think it is this
On June 15 2023 16:20 DarthPunk wrote:
Marv + Cake + 1??
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If I hadn't mislynched marv last game and he didn't talk about activity stuff before the roles got sent I would be trying to lynch marv right now. Not gonna lie.
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On June 15 2023 16:46 TankTopTiger wrote:
So you don't trust Marv? How confident are you? No hyperbole please.
Part of me hopes it's CC. If it is, Rayn cost us the game after all that bluster bs and not me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (jkjk<3).
But at the same time, I think it'd be really hard to pocket a partner and not have that cause relationship issues. And out of the two, Rayn is considered stronger, so it's less likely she pulled one over him this hard.
Presumably, they live together? Rayn dead now should have asked before.
I don't fucking know dude. I feel pretty terrible at this game right now.
Everytime you post I think you are town, and I know you could be master manipulating me here, but I just think the way you post is like you are playing as you would if you were gonna get mislynched.
I have no fucking idea why rayn was so confident about his reads, and maybe I am just bad and you and MZ are 1000 percent mafia.
If it was marv and vivax and copcake I would not be surprised.
Like I even forgot vivax existed this game, he is apparently super engaged by scumhunting based off his posts from last game, and marv called him unlynchable after day 1 the previous game.
Did he and cake pocket rayn? (used to be rayns major weakness as town)
If it was you and mz +1 I would not be surprised.
I am so fucking disoriented in this game.
At the moment I kind of want to lynch cake because she was a 100 percent scum read, but after rayns flip its more likely she is town.
So no, I'm not confident on marv, I'm not confident on anyone at all.
I don't think slam would use IRL stuff as an excuse to win as mafia.
and LS is town until otherwise proven.
So pretty much those are my only town reads.
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On June 15 2023 16:55 TankTopTiger wrote:
Slam literally hid behind his IRL shit last game as mafia.
Was it the same though?
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Im going to let other people post for a bit, Mafia was either hiding behind Rayn, or Behind me.
so ill shut up and see what happens.
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On June 15 2023 19:33 Vivax wrote:
Can‘t help but think that I don‘t fully believe DP when he said that he has no clue about what‘s going on in the game either.
Why is that?
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On June 15 2023 19:37 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2023 19:36 DarthPunk wrote:On June 15 2023 19:33 Vivax wrote:
Can‘t help but think that I don‘t fully believe DP when he said that he has no clue about what‘s going on in the game either. Why is that? That doesn‘t fit within the rest of your posting.
I don't think that is true, I have been transparently flip flopping all game.
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On June 15 2023 19:37 Vivax wrote:
I think you have a clue but try to hide that you don‘t.
You calling me mafia or not?
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Vivax what do you think of cake?
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On June 15 2023 19:43 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2023 19:38 DarthPunk wrote:On June 15 2023 19:37 Vivax wrote:
I think you have a clue but try to hide that you don‘t. You calling me mafia or not? No, but you‘re in the PoE. How are you still alive if you‘re not scum ???
You think I should have been killed over Rayn and Hapa?
I am guessing I was:
A) really really wrong on something
or
B.) mafia feel comfortable with the direction I have been going.
or
C.) they don't respect my ability to find and lynch mafia
or
D.) they are trying to frame mz.
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I am revoking the free pass marv got for activity by the way, I am really concerned about his lack of engagement and agency.
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On June 13 2023 02:42 marvellosity wrote:
I really thought DP had a good shot of being mafia for quite a while when reading, he seemed more ‘together’ than last game and I’d generally characterise that as him being more likely mafia than town.
But if he is maf he did an exceptionally good job at ‘caring’ about the lynch. Makes it a lot a lot less likely
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[QUOTE]On June 13 2023 05:24 marvellosity wrote:
DP/Vivax - townreads to a lesser extent. I don’t really know what Vivax is on and my brain hurts, so likely town. DP has been the town leader (sort of in rayn’s absence a little), I didn’t understand why he was getting votes d1. Good play around the lynch. Read on Copcake feels genuine.
This has bothered me for ages.
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On June 13 2023 02:42 marvellosity wrote:
I really thought DP had a good shot of being mafia for quite a while when reading, he seemed more ‘together’ than last game and I’d generally characterise that as him being more likely mafia than town.
But if he is maf he did an exceptionally good job at ‘caring’ about the lynch. Makes it a lot a lot less likely
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On June 13 2023 05:24 marvellosity wrote:
DP/Vivax - townreads to a lesser extent. I don’t really know what Vivax is on and my brain hurts, so likely town. DP has been the town leader (sort of in rayn’s absence a little), I didn’t understand why he was getting votes d1. Good play around the lynch. Read on Copcake feels genuine.
This has bothered me for ages.
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Yeah I don't think TTT is mafia here.
If he is he has thoroughly played me and props to him for being able to manipulate me that well.
He is pretty much off my lynch pool (que rayn rage in obs thread - whatever I have to do what I think)
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##vote: Marvellosity
I just can't see why he is not doing anything. I really tried to engage with him and I just haven't been able to. He just ignores questions, or invitations to participate.
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On June 13 2023 03:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Whoever said MZ is town because he cared about the lynch, is not making a very good read. MZ's targets were LS and Vayoletta. We know Ls is like 99% blue, so unless MZ is mafia with Vayoletta, this is very safe thing to do to "look like caring" when noone is on the line from mafia team -- and multiple people had even said they are not up for policy lynch. On June 11 2023 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 11 2023 10:41 Hapahauli wrote:
I really dislike that this game is just a shadow of the previous game. Feels like i'm just missing half my brain. Well we've got 15 minutes, DMB, DP, Vayoletta, or LS. On June 11 2023 10:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.
I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it. I would rather policy. Worst thing that happens is Vayoletta flips town. If we don't policy, Vayoletta gets modkilled and we potentially mislynch a townie and lose 2 instead of worst case scenario 1. In between here LS claims. On June 11 2023 10:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LS... sigh. OK doubling down on a policy now Now what is this?? His other lynch target drops a blue claim so he STARTS DOUBTING the only viable lynch in his mind ?????? Or is there something i am misreading in this post lol? You have stolen my thoughts on MZ around the lynch
This post where he agrees with a read by Rayn whose conclusion is based on Rayns misunderstanding of the phrase 'doubles down' and is therefore tragically wrong.
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On June 15 2023 06:05 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, most of my thinking about TTT was purely from the view of wagonomics (that’s definitely a word right?).
the only post that even mentions wagonomics for his thinking on TTT was this:
On June 14 2023 18:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 18:30 DarthPunk wrote:On June 14 2023 18:30 marvellosity wrote:On June 14 2023 18:28 DarthPunk wrote:On June 14 2023 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo
I don’t think it’s much though I think the wagon is spread the only person suspect in my mind from vote switching day 2 is vivax. Which only really makes sense if TTT is maf Nah the switch back to Vayo to secure a town ! Ttt lynch. That assumes that mafia think TTT easier to lynch than Vayo?
Actually most of his thinking was based on reading his filter:
On June 14 2023 03:18 marvellosity wrote:rayn, I have just spent quite a bit of time in TTT’s filter, then I read your case at the end of it. I mentioned previously that TTT had disregarded information in the thread that contradicted his own tunnel. I went and found where it started to make it easier for you to check: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/609557-tl-endures-mafia?page=148#2942Essentially the history being that TTT thought he caught me in some sort of trap about what I said about LS sheeping me. He thought that I was talking about LS voting me, rather than following my vote on to DP in weak fashion. I posted my posts in thread to show this and he ignored it. Obviously it’s poor play to ignore evidence, but then again the direct evidence here is that a town TTT will ignore evidence. What makes it a little bit more difficult to stomach is that TTT does talk in his filter about learning from the tunnel on me, but makes the same ‘mistake’ (if that’s what it is) on CC. Just to touch on your point about the “twice as weird” thing again now I reread his filter and your case - the not-mafia explanation here is that he originally found CC’s read on you weird, rowed back on it after an explanation, then found it weird again with the information that CC tends not to read you as town. For me the strangest thing about his filter is the near obsession with DP; obviously they know each other irl so part of it must be that. But there’s a lot of dangling DP there as possibly mafia while consistently reading him town for not much other than ‘pro town’ posting. To me that doesn’t mesh very well compared to his nuts tunnel on me last game, I would have thought he would be more willing to interrogate his DP read, or otherwise have better reasons to read him town.
On June 14 2023 05:11 marvellosity wrote:
If I read TTT’s filter I can find more reasons for him to be town than Vayo. I don’t know if that means TTT is actually town but I do think he’s a worse lynch
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