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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 01:53 GMT
#1038
There really are no good options here for some reason, unless DMB is scum and she completely bamboozled me.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 01:54 GMT
#1040
Does that mean mafia is in the lurkers? Seems like a bad conclusion to draw.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 01:55 GMT
#1044
On June 11 2023 10:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
I said vote me!
I don't play any game half.
I play or not play and if my body is telling go fucking sleep I drunk 15 double espresso and 3 RedBulls. One Vodka shoot because I wanted to kill two asshole guests on my bar, than I don't can play. I didn't read the last fucking pages this is not playing just vote me out.
I would get killed from the mafia in N1 because they see my hidden messages for town. But Town sees just bullshit here anyways. Lynch me and I hope you all know how you are playing so fucking bad as Town


Like this is a masterclass if she is maf.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 01:57 GMT
#1046
I guess nothing else is happening.

Have to vote for safety. Sorry that life got in the way DMB.

##vote: DMB
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 01:57 GMT
#1048
##vote: DMB
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 01:58 GMT
#1053
On June 11 2023 10:56 TankTopTiger wrote:
DP you have been more aggressive this game but you are a sentimental old man when it comes to lynch at times. DMB is absolutely manipulating rn (ANI). They saw what worked and so kept doing it.


This is true.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 01:59 GMT
#1054
I just really don't think we are lynching mafia here.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 01:59 GMT
#1055
feels bad.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 02:17 GMT
#1072
She was soft claiming maybe when she was saying exactly like last game
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 03:28 GMT
#1091
On June 11 2023 11:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 11:45 TankTopTiger wrote:
Do you normally get this angry?

It feels fake because your position is weak (Tracker and policy), but Koshi was furious last game I guess under similar circumstances.

No I'm honestly pretty chill but I'm really irritated with how the last couple hours have played out.


Hard to argue for a lurker lynch when they are just going to be modjilled. I was on board but could still see it going either way.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 06:14 GMT
#1093
On June 11 2023 15:09 TankTopTiger wrote:
DP why is a lurker lynch even viable assuming no modkill?

Killing a lurking town isn't helping us.

Every cycle, scum get an NK. Every cycle, town get a lynch. Lynch is far worse than NK, and it's only through informed lynching can town close the inherent disadvantage. Informed lynching comes from information, and the best information which helps interpret all other information is... through lynching.

If we lynch a lurker, we basically start again D1 minus (probably) two town. This is disadvantage over time and not something we should ever want.


yeah, that is the argument. but at some point, you don't lynch someone you have strong belief is town just for GTO math.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 06:18 GMT
#1094
On June 11 2023 15:09 TankTopTiger wrote:
DP why is a lurker lynch even viable assuming no modkill?

Killing a lurking town isn't helping us.

Every cycle, scum get an NK. Every cycle, town get a lynch. Lynch is far worse than NK, and it's only through informed lynching can town close the inherent disadvantage. Informed lynching comes from information, and the best information which helps interpret all other information is... through lynching.

If we lynch a lurker, we basically start again D1 minus (probably) two town. This is disadvantage over time and not something we should ever want.


Why is the lurker town though?

This doesn't even make sense if there is no modkill. at the end of the lynch it was pretty obvious that DMB was gonna flip town, so if Violetta is not going to be modkilled then its better to lose the dead weight and a more likely mafia flip.

Why is she even likely to be town in this spot?

Presumably you have town reads, the more town reads you have the more likely mafia is in the pool of people that aren't being read as town, so the more likely someone in that pool flips maf

Don't get it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 07:09 GMT
#1096
On June 11 2023 15:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
I misspoke, => probably town based on math.

Even if they're red, they don't give us anything. I'm not sure if this is still the case, but I'm pretty sure back in the day one of the stats I read was that counterintuitively, if mafia get lynched D1, this favours red. The informational advantage outweighs the material advantage.

There was a case, you had noticed real shit. She was blue which makes her act different. She could have claimed and we would have moved on but she didn't.


She did claim though
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 07:09 GMT
#1097
On June 11 2023 16:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 15:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
I misspoke, => probably town based on math.

Even if they're red, they don't give us anything. I'm not sure if this is still the case, but I'm pretty sure back in the day one of the stats I read was that counterintuitively, if mafia get lynched D1, this favours red. The informational advantage outweighs the material advantage.

There was a case, you had noticed real shit. She was blue which makes her act different. She could have claimed and we would have moved on but she didn't.


She did claim though


Just couldn’t see it until after she flipped
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 07:10 GMT
#1098
Also I think it’s definitely better to lynch mafia over town. I don’t care what anyone says
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 09:52 GMT
#1106
On June 11 2023 18:26 CopCake wrote:
DP, why did you ask if MZ “drunk post” was real but when he was here you didn’t even care?

Why did you believe Baby was being honest instantly but MZ could be faking?


I didn't ask if it was real, I asked if Hapa thought he was lying, this was important because Hapa was basing at least some part of his MZ read on MZ being snarky. Which was partially explainable by the drinking and personal issues.

I really wish you read and understood what was going on before leaping to assumptions.

Do you have any thoughts on any other players aside from me?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 10:10 GMT
#1113
On June 11 2023 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP can you look at TTT's filter for me and tell me what you think? He seems to be saying Cake is mafia for having such a strong town read on me every time she talks about Cake, but every time he talks with me the conversation ends in "okay if you know each other i see your point and that's not why i think Cake is mafia". It's really absurd.

Cake comeon, do you really still think DP is mafia??? If you can't process what happened especially towards eod1 you're either insane or mafia if this read still sticks.


I'm less sure TTT is town then last game. By some margin. Im not going to post much in the night, but I have some thoughts that I will share before the day post.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 10:14 GMT
#1114
Rayn how strong is your town read on cake btw?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 11:29 GMT
#1131
On June 11 2023 19:49 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 07:58 CopCake wrote:
Ok DP, if I live in a world you are town, do you think TTT has the power to manipulate you and play you?



This was my last post before I fell asleep.

Can you answer me Darth?


I'm not answering you anymore as you have not had the courtesy of answering me this game since the beginning. I have asked you several times now to provide reads on literally anything else.

In my opinion all you have done this game is to ineffectually try and lynch a townie.

It's not productive, it's not interesting and I am moving on.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 12 2023 01:22 GMT
#1166
On June 12 2023 10:11 LightningStrike wrote:
If happened to die I do think there is 1-2 active mafias that were around EoD most likely given how flip floppy everything was at EoD should relook at EoD much closer.


Do you think mafia was on my wagon?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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