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On May 25 2023 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
And rayn I'm telling you that in my experience as town in that position figuring out the person's alignment feels important. You showing me why you think it's the opposite doesn't change my read of it, it just tells me you don't give a shit about what I'm saying. And I already knew that, can you see how counterproductive that is? I am not sure what youre saying here. I am nowhere saying people should not figure out mebaby/Vivax alignment, in fact i am trying to do the opposite. I just know people work in a certain way. Like if i started calling you mafia with shit reasons here and that is all i would do, you would do exactly what Vivax did with mebaby and stop posting other stuff, and almost completely focus on answering my posts only. It's not alignment indicative, especially towards being mafia. You can think she is town and vivax is mafia, and that's fine, hell you can even be right on that. but there is absolutely no way i am going to agree with you over myself at the moment. the only ways this situation gets "better" is if mebaby (who is already scummy) gets lynched, or she starts doing townie things, or vivax either scumtells or towntells real hard so there is no question about his alignment anymore.
Pls explain your newbi what I have to do do called townie things. Beeing this agressiv and activ is to risky as mafia... I would just have played a dumb new young girl l.
The fact that V voted on me and didn't think I was mafia are you guys ignoring. He said early I am def town and vote on me because of my language and I got cringed out about it. If am wrong with V as mafia than this is still a move you should think about more. With every other vote I take it as a women war in die in honor for the town. But vote on me for personal reasons is just coward
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On May 25 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
And rayn I'm telling you that in my experience as town in that position figuring out the person's alignment feels important. You showing me why you think it's the opposite doesn't change my read of it, it just tells me you don't give a shit about what I'm saying. And I already knew that, can you see how counterproductive that is? I am not sure what youre saying here. I am nowhere saying people should not figure out mebaby/Vivax alignment, in fact i am trying to do the opposite. I just know people work in a certain way. Like if i started calling you mafia with shit reasons here and that is all i would do, you would do exactly what Vivax did with mebaby and stop posting other stuff, and almost completely focus on answering my posts only. It's not alignment indicative, especially towards being mafia. You can think she is town and vivax is mafia, and that's fine, hell you can even be right on that. but there is absolutely no way i am going to agree with you over myself at the moment. the only ways this situation gets "better" is if mebaby (who is already scummy) gets lynched, or she starts doing townie things, or vivax either scumtells or towntells real hard so there is no question about his alignment anymore. I'm referring specifically to Vivax and meat, not the rest of us. You may not know this but my ex Becca has played here. I don't know if anyone here played with her, she only played one or two games. But I played Video Mafia with her too and my read on Vivax/meat is specifically based on my meta knowledge of that dynamic.
Okay, and my read on Vivax that he could and maybe even likely would act this way towards mebaby is based on my personal knowledge of dynamic with me and Cake, which has happened.
Like i don't doubt mebaby as town would like to figure out Vivax soooo hard especially in her first game, but the evidence suggests imo, that she's not doing it in a townie way at all. I don't think she actually thinks Vivax is mafia, i think she just wants to lynch him.
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I was literally just getting ready to try and mediate. You're a boss MZ.
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On May 25 2023 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
And rayn I'm telling you that in my experience as town in that position figuring out the person's alignment feels important. You showing me why you think it's the opposite doesn't change my read of it, it just tells me you don't give a shit about what I'm saying. And I already knew that, can you see how counterproductive that is? I am not sure what youre saying here. I am nowhere saying people should not figure out mebaby/Vivax alignment, in fact i am trying to do the opposite. I just know people work in a certain way. Like if i started calling you mafia with shit reasons here and that is all i would do, you would do exactly what Vivax did with mebaby and stop posting other stuff, and almost completely focus on answering my posts only. It's not alignment indicative, especially towards being mafia. You can think she is town and vivax is mafia, and that's fine, hell you can even be right on that. but there is absolutely no way i am going to agree with you over myself at the moment. the only ways this situation gets "better" is if mebaby (who is already scummy) gets lynched, or she starts doing townie things, or vivax either scumtells or towntells real hard so there is no question about his alignment anymore. I'm referring specifically to Vivax and meat, not the rest of us. You may not know this but my ex Becca has played here. I don't know if anyone here played with her, she only played one or two games. But I played Video Mafia with her too and my read on Vivax/meat is specifically based on my meta knowledge of that dynamic. Okay, and my read on Vivax that he could and maybe even likely would act this way towards mebaby is based on my personal knowledge of dynamic with me and Cake, which has happened. Like i don't doubt mebaby as town would like to figure out Vivax soooo hard especially in her first game, but the evidence suggests imo, that she's not doing it in a townie way at all. I don't think she actually thinks Vivax is mafia, i think she just wants to lynch him.
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On May 25 2023 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Meapak do you remember what was the last game you played here? I cant find with a quick search in database.
Chezinu Streak
Then a couple of games in 2019. I think there was a game in 2020 but I can't remember.
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On May 25 2023 03:39 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 03:20 marvellosity wrote:
On a more general, higher level about the whole game;
Town are fucked if both rayn and Koshi are mafia. Too much thread control. Fortunately I don’t think that is the case at all. If one is mafia (still don’t think so) then I’m sort of relying on the other to start calling them out.
So I take into account both of their opinion fairly strongly. So while I’m a lot less sure on MB than they are, if I’m going to follow 2 players it’s them, and that may be the right thing to do here.
Your aggression towards me is fairly bizarre though MZ. Assuming you are town, you must at least understand what I’m saying about you. You’re a good enough player to understand that a mafia playing ‘cleanly’ is very much a thing. So the fact you disregard that is weird. Why are you just randomly throwing suspicion on them, do you think they're not town? What purpose does this serve other than to do exactly what I accused you of doing yesterday which is muddle up the thread. My aggression from you stems from frustration because I know you good enough as a town player to have real reads at this point in the game and instead all you've got is a weak ass case against me which you're now defending with yet more WIFOM. I'm really left with no other conclusion that you're scum. Also your VE progression is terrible, going from "not suspicious" to "something's not right" without explaining what you think about it isn't right is just more of the constant baseless and vague accusations I've come to expect from you this game. I'm not really interested in reading any more posts by you unless they contain clear cases backed up with explanations to your thought process as to why you find someone scummy. I'm tired minimal effort. This is a pretty townie post regardless of marv his alignment. MZ is like dafuq dude I am town and I am all you got?
Do you have anything else on MZ town-wise. I’m fairly keen not to spend my time tunnelling a townie for however long if that is indeed the case.
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On May 25 2023 03:40 die_meatbaby wrote:
Pls explain your newbi what I have to do do called townie things. Beeing this agressiv and activ is to risky as mafia... I would just have played a dumb new young girl l.
If you are town, i suggest -- as marv said already -- you start elaborating on how you came to the conclusions you have come to more clearly. Stop talking to Vivax, and talk to other people. If you really genuinely think Vivax is mafia and you are so sure of it as you have expressed in the thread, try some reading, think about what you post, and try to find a way to express yourself better. As i said, and as many have said, right now you're not doing any good job there. Worst case scenario is that you're town and Vivax is mafia and you're just giving him a legit reason to post (nonsense) stuff that looks like he is contributing, because when you two fight in the thread, so far he's coming out looking way better than you are.
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On May 25 2023 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2023 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
And rayn I'm telling you that in my experience as town in that position figuring out the person's alignment feels important. You showing me why you think it's the opposite doesn't change my read of it, it just tells me you don't give a shit about what I'm saying. And I already knew that, can you see how counterproductive that is? I am not sure what youre saying here. I am nowhere saying people should not figure out mebaby/Vivax alignment, in fact i am trying to do the opposite. I just know people work in a certain way. Like if i started calling you mafia with shit reasons here and that is all i would do, you would do exactly what Vivax did with mebaby and stop posting other stuff, and almost completely focus on answering my posts only. It's not alignment indicative, especially towards being mafia. You can think she is town and vivax is mafia, and that's fine, hell you can even be right on that. but there is absolutely no way i am going to agree with you over myself at the moment. the only ways this situation gets "better" is if mebaby (who is already scummy) gets lynched, or she starts doing townie things, or vivax either scumtells or towntells real hard so there is no question about his alignment anymore. I'm referring specifically to Vivax and meat, not the rest of us. You may not know this but my ex Becca has played here. I don't know if anyone here played with her, she only played one or two games. But I played Video Mafia with her too and my read on Vivax/meat is specifically based on my meta knowledge of that dynamic. Okay, and my read on Vivax that he could and maybe even likely would act this way towards mebaby is based on my personal knowledge of dynamic with me and Cake, which has happened. Like i don't doubt mebaby as town would like to figure out Vivax soooo hard especially in her first game, but the evidence suggests imo, that she's not doing it in a townie way at all. I don't think she actually thinks Vivax is mafia, i think she just wants to lynch him.
Okay, fair. I hear that. But you're argument is that this is anti-town at best and mafia at worst. I argue that it's not anti-town as she only has one vote and PROBABLY can be persuaded to vote someone else if she's town, which I suspect, based on my knowledge. AND I think that Vivax is mafia based upon it. You think it's either or, but lynch it just because. I think it MAKES meat town and Vivax mafia.
Like, do you want me to put my life on it? I know you like that shit, but I can't guarantee town would be down. I'd put my life tomorrow on it to vote Vivax out. Would you put your life on it to vote meat out?
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Rayn can you chime in on MZ too pls. Our recent interactions.
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On May 25 2023 03:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Meapak do you remember what was the last game you played here? I cant find with a quick search in database. Chezinu StreakThen a couple of games in 2019. I think there was a game in 2020 but I can't remember.
Okay, here's your D1 post in that game:
On August 31 2022 19:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Right now after a first read of the thread I don't think I'm sold on a slam lynch but that's mostly because I have absolutely no idea how to read him. There are people here who swear they can soulread him so more power to them.
Why is Slam expressing different behavior so now you can tell he is town.
Is it him calling your top scumread conf town, or...?
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Also I missed playing with you rayn I'm having a great time lol
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On May 25 2023 03:45 marvellosity wrote:
Rayn can you chime in on MZ too pls. Our recent interactions.
gotta drop cake to work in 5 mins so i will get to that a bit later.
i am interested how he is at least this confident in calling slam town here.
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On May 25 2023 03:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:39 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 03:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 03:20 marvellosity wrote:
On a more general, higher level about the whole game;
Town are fucked if both rayn and Koshi are mafia. Too much thread control. Fortunately I don’t think that is the case at all. If one is mafia (still don’t think so) then I’m sort of relying on the other to start calling them out.
So I take into account both of their opinion fairly strongly. So while I’m a lot less sure on MB than they are, if I’m going to follow 2 players it’s them, and that may be the right thing to do here.
Your aggression towards me is fairly bizarre though MZ. Assuming you are town, you must at least understand what I’m saying about you. You’re a good enough player to understand that a mafia playing ‘cleanly’ is very much a thing. So the fact you disregard that is weird. Why are you just randomly throwing suspicion on them, do you think they're not town? What purpose does this serve other than to do exactly what I accused you of doing yesterday which is muddle up the thread. My aggression from you stems from frustration because I know you good enough as a town player to have real reads at this point in the game and instead all you've got is a weak ass case against me which you're now defending with yet more WIFOM. I'm really left with no other conclusion that you're scum. Also your VE progression is terrible, going from "not suspicious" to "something's not right" without explaining what you think about it isn't right is just more of the constant baseless and vague accusations I've come to expect from you this game. I'm not really interested in reading any more posts by you unless they contain clear cases backed up with explanations to your thought process as to why you find someone scummy. I'm tired minimal effort. This is a pretty townie post regardless of marv his alignment. MZ is like dafuq dude I am town and I am all you got? Do you have anything else on MZ town-wise. I’m fairly keen not to spend my time tunnelling a townie for however long if that is indeed the case.
No sadly not. I don't think he is townie tbh. I just think he is such an obvious lynch that I don't know if he was mafia he would just open so badly we all gut read him mafia.
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On May 25 2023 03:40 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
And rayn I'm telling you that in my experience as town in that position figuring out the person's alignment feels important. You showing me why you think it's the opposite doesn't change my read of it, it just tells me you don't give a shit about what I'm saying. And I already knew that, can you see how counterproductive that is? I am not sure what youre saying here. I am nowhere saying people should not figure out mebaby/Vivax alignment, in fact i am trying to do the opposite. I just know people work in a certain way. Like if i started calling you mafia with shit reasons here and that is all i would do, you would do exactly what Vivax did with mebaby and stop posting other stuff, and almost completely focus on answering my posts only. It's not alignment indicative, especially towards being mafia. You can think she is town and vivax is mafia, and that's fine, hell you can even be right on that. but there is absolutely no way i am going to agree with you over myself at the moment. the only ways this situation gets "better" is if mebaby (who is already scummy) gets lynched, or she starts doing townie things, or vivax either scumtells or towntells real hard so there is no question about his alignment anymore. Pls explain your newbi what I have to do do called townie things. Beeing this agressiv and activ is to risky as mafia... I would just have played a dumb new young girl l.The fact that V voted on me and didn't think I was mafia are you guys ignoring. He said early I am def town and vote on me because of my language and I got cringed out about it. If am wrong with V as mafia than this is still a move you should think about more. With every other vote I take it as a women war in die in honor for the town. But vote on me for personal reasons is just coward
The bolded part is obviously true but the fact that you bring it up means you know it and therefore you could be acting that way to fool us but we can't know which one it is soooo.... old reliable
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On May 25 2023 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I missed playing with you rayn I'm having a great time lol
me too! overall this is really enjoyable game so far <3
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On May 25 2023 03:47 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:43 marvellosity wrote:On May 25 2023 03:39 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 03:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 03:20 marvellosity wrote:
On a more general, higher level about the whole game;
Town are fucked if both rayn and Koshi are mafia. Too much thread control. Fortunately I don’t think that is the case at all. If one is mafia (still don’t think so) then I’m sort of relying on the other to start calling them out.
So I take into account both of their opinion fairly strongly. So while I’m a lot less sure on MB than they are, if I’m going to follow 2 players it’s them, and that may be the right thing to do here.
Your aggression towards me is fairly bizarre though MZ. Assuming you are town, you must at least understand what I’m saying about you. You’re a good enough player to understand that a mafia playing ‘cleanly’ is very much a thing. So the fact you disregard that is weird. Why are you just randomly throwing suspicion on them, do you think they're not town? What purpose does this serve other than to do exactly what I accused you of doing yesterday which is muddle up the thread. My aggression from you stems from frustration because I know you good enough as a town player to have real reads at this point in the game and instead all you've got is a weak ass case against me which you're now defending with yet more WIFOM. I'm really left with no other conclusion that you're scum. Also your VE progression is terrible, going from "not suspicious" to "something's not right" without explaining what you think about it isn't right is just more of the constant baseless and vague accusations I've come to expect from you this game. I'm not really interested in reading any more posts by you unless they contain clear cases backed up with explanations to your thought process as to why you find someone scummy. I'm tired minimal effort. This is a pretty townie post regardless of marv his alignment. MZ is like dafuq dude I am town and I am all you got? Do you have anything else on MZ town-wise. I’m fairly keen not to spend my time tunnelling a townie for however long if that is indeed the case. No sadly not. I don't think he is townie tbh. I just think he is such an obvious lynch that I don't know if he was mafia he would just open so badly we all gut read him mafia.
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On May 25 2023 03:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I missed playing with you rayn I'm having a great time lol me too! overall this is really enjoyable game so far <3
Me three, I am absolutely loving it
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You play with cake a lot. I've only played a couple of times with becca.
I think you remember the feeling less. The first time. I think that's why we differ here so strongly.
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He played in the previous game as well. Maybe I should compare the two games at some point. I know why I townread him in N1 there. But he was in my potential mafia list as well. Just the less likely pile.
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Well I don't think Becca had a grudge on you for being thrown into a game we play in a clerical manner when she wanted to shitpost.
At least I think that could be part of the reason for me looking so juicy to MB. Aside from my dashing looks.
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