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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 24 2023 08:50 GMT
#501
On May 24 2023 17:39 marvellosity wrote:
Can we get some MZ discussion up in here? Promise we can still talk about MB too…


Im still waiting for him to let me know about all these other people he would apparently like to lynch before I make a decision.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 24 2023 08:51 GMT
#502
On May 24 2023 17:42 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am just gonna say, i wrote this:
On May 24 2023 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[...]
Vivax looks active and i'd say more likely town too. I didn't hate his last post, although there is a creeping suspicion about him and meatbaby goin like "hey can i say this in thread" -- "yeah it's fine, noone will believe you anyways and it's great distancing anyways", but i don't really have any other reason to think Vivax is mafia atm, and that reasoning in itself is stupid.
[...]

She pretty much instantly responds:
On May 24 2023 07:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
Me and vivax never talk about the game ever 2 pc´s 2 different rooms. Also if I have questions i would write the host and not asking him.

Think about it a little bit from the PoV that they are both mafia?


I didn‘t coach her while posting. Do you think she’d list Chez as town if I did that ?


Do you think she would be coachable if she was mafia? Because why would anyone let her do that?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 24 2023 08:52 GMT
#503
On May 24 2023 17:25 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:18 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:12 Vivax wrote:
The Chez TR made no sense in that list, aye. As the read on me/rayn still doesn‘t. At this point it doesn’t seem to just be a tease or troll read of sorts anymore.

I wouldn‘t say massive troll @DP. Aside from obvious shitposts, I think it‘s mostly her being in way over her head.

Game takes practice and we‘re routined players, so I believe that regardless of alignment, she doesn‘t know how to gather player sentiment and just posts half-baked stuff in the hopes that it holds some value to others.

Which is behaviour I would usually place as mafia, but with newbie card + bias + language barrier I don‘t really feel like going down that road. I feel like I brought her into this game so I’m also responsible for ensuring it’s fun :p

Oh and LS seemes town for tone to me , I don’t rely on much else when it comes to him this early in the game (but I won’t forget he slipped by as mafia once in I think the last game where Damdred was also in).

Meanwhile I take some issue with MZs tone, at times. It’s all very well written and the angles he shoots hold merit but appears tendentious/tunnely in approach.

That said, GTMH I‘d currently vote with my TRs Koshi/rayn and maybe marv no matter what.


I really hate this Ls town read stuff. He has barely posted about the game. Either you have all developed hyper accurate meta reads on each other because of small player pool. And these never change or are meta gamed. or it’s just bad habits. I’m leaning towards the latter.


Knowing him, he’ll show up at some point and post more reads. I’m statistically better off giving bold townreads over bad scumreads. If you think he can be scum, be my guest but hating my townread based on early tone seems a bit over the top.

I’ll give you that it’s not a read I’d hold onto unconditionally.


Not just your read that I take issue with FWIW.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 24 2023 08:58 GMT
#504
On May 24 2023 13:44 DarthPunk wrote:
@Die Meat Baby

Why are you voting for Onegu when you think Vivax is mafia?

Please actually answer the question this time. :D


Becauce he is not active and I want to play the game real. Hate things like this. Don´t go in game if you are not playing... afk f0cks me up every time playing, not matter which game, so wanted to vote him out. Still i think Vivax is def. not town.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
May 24 2023 08:59 GMT
#505
On May 24 2023 17:51 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:42 Vivax wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am just gonna say, i wrote this:
On May 24 2023 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[...]
Vivax looks active and i'd say more likely town too. I didn't hate his last post, although there is a creeping suspicion about him and meatbaby goin like "hey can i say this in thread" -- "yeah it's fine, noone will believe you anyways and it's great distancing anyways", but i don't really have any other reason to think Vivax is mafia atm, and that reasoning in itself is stupid.
[...]

She pretty much instantly responds:
On May 24 2023 07:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
Me and vivax never talk about the game ever 2 pc´s 2 different rooms. Also if I have questions i would write the host and not asking him.

Think about it a little bit from the PoV that they are both mafia?


I didn‘t coach her while posting. Do you think she’d list Chez as town if I did that ?


Do you think she would be coachable if she was mafia? Because why would anyone let her do that?


I assume she would be, since we play on different computers.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
May 24 2023 09:02 GMT
#506
On May 24 2023 17:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 13:44 DarthPunk wrote:
@Die Meat Baby

Why are you voting for Onegu when you think Vivax is mafia?

Please actually answer the question this time. :D


Becauce he is not active and I want to play the game real. Hate things like this. Don´t go in game if you are not playing... afk f0cks me up every time playing, not matter which game, so wanted to vote him out. Still i think Vivax is def. not town.


But Chezinu and Sentinel didn't post either, why Onegu.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 24 2023 09:03 GMT
#507
On May 24 2023 17:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 13:44 DarthPunk wrote:
@Die Meat Baby

Why are you voting for Onegu when you think Vivax is mafia?

Please actually answer the question this time. :D


Becauce he is not active and I want to play the game real. Hate things like this. Don´t go in game if you are not playing... afk f0cks me up every time playing, not matter which game, so wanted to vote him out. Still i think Vivax is def. not town.


Why do you think chezinu is town?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2023 09:08 GMT
#508
Meatbaby, what would you expect from a town Vivax that you aren’t seeing this game?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2023 09:08 GMT
#509
On May 24 2023 17:12 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:09 Koshi wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:01 Koshi wrote:
I talk about so many things.


There are context clues. What you were posting about with Rayn being 3/3 or whatever.


I can’t say I’m a fan of the tendency for people to be deliberately vague that has seemingly developed over the years.

His 3 mafia reads? Mebaby slam and MZ? Then add Vivax, Onegu and Sentinel and you have 3 out of 6 being mafia.

But now I see I forgot Chez so it is 3/7


I don’t think slam is mafia but thanks for clarifying.

Btw off topic: what part of Belgium are you from? my partner is from Antwerp and I really love visiting belgium.

My mother now lives in central Antwerp. I always went to school between Antwerp and Brussels in a city called Mechelen. And now I bought a house closer to my wife her family close to Brussels, on the Flemish side. So central Belgium Flemish side.
I had a good night of sleep.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 24 2023 09:08 GMT
#510
On May 24 2023 17:14 marvellosity wrote:
First post of the game on a computer for me, hurrah! And first post of today with clothes on, you'll all be thrilled to hear. I'm going to summarise where I'm at.

Koshi and rayn seem pretty-to-very town to me, at least if they are not I am not going to be catching them very soon. rayn thinks what I think a good bunch of the time. Koshi loves to vote for me d1 as town (not that that's the reason for the read, but ya know)

DP I am no longer particularly suspicious of, I don't think I have a reason to be.

VE I don't think I am suspicious of either. Some of his posts are very ?????? to me, but I don't think that makes him mafia. VE loves a big or crazy sort of play as mafia and he's not afraid to put himself out there, but I don't think it's like this?

Vivax I am unsure of. Tonally I think he looks fairly town, but before I looked at his filter just now I'm at least somewhat suspicious of him. It feels to me that a town-Vivax should be using all his irl leverage to really question and dig into MB's alignment, rather than giving occasional summaries of his thoughts. I just imagine myself in Vivax's position - I would want nothing more than to determine the alignment of my friend. I did re-read his filter though and it also didn't scream mafia particularly apart from that, random comment about MB being mafia spews me town, is that something he writes as mafia?

Slam could be anything (if there's a way to tell that I can't remember, enlighten me). LS I am also very null on.

MB I don't have much else to add than what Koshi said and my response to what Koshi said not long ago. Could easily be mafia, meatbaby - I really encourage you to post your thoughts and reasoning behind them as much as possible today

MZ I think is mafia. It was floating around in my brain yesterday, but the case against me at least looked clean and (some) of his posts maybe looked okay, so I wasn't sure how to pinpoint what I was thinking. But rayn's comments about MZ and how his posting style appeared to him in past games really resonated to me and helped me make sense of my thoughts. Actually his case against me is too clean/obvious, and I don't think he's actually trying to discern my alignment. I think he is playing the way an old-school scum player plays, relatively unruffly comments, targeting someone (me) that has at least some thread traction, a case that 'makes sense' but doesn't dig any further.

##vote: MZ

P.S. I am slightly sad that we have 2 non-posters, I hope at least 2 mafia sit in the people actually playing, or it's gonna be sucky.



For shure this is my first game and I think you all try to be goeing easy on me otherwise I would be lynched already, because i trigger you all with my opinion about Vivax and rayn. If would be Mafia I would be aiginst Koshi because he got a vote on me, still I wouldn´t vote for him, because he is def. town. I think you as well

I know earlier i said about Chingu "he seems like town" It was my mistake. I had a post in my head and thought he was writing it, but was not him. Sorry i should concentrade more. I was trying to read erverything while working, but better to just go in on my freetime.

And Alakaslam was not realy writing much in D1 so sorry that I not had a opinion on him.

And sorry maybe i am still high from the stuff I got from the dentist half hour ago
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 24 2023 09:11 GMT
#511
On May 24 2023 17:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:51 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:42 Vivax wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am just gonna say, i wrote this:
On May 24 2023 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[...]
Vivax looks active and i'd say more likely town too. I didn't hate his last post, although there is a creeping suspicion about him and meatbaby goin like "hey can i say this in thread" -- "yeah it's fine, noone will believe you anyways and it's great distancing anyways", but i don't really have any other reason to think Vivax is mafia atm, and that reasoning in itself is stupid.
[...]

She pretty much instantly responds:
On May 24 2023 07:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
Me and vivax never talk about the game ever 2 pc´s 2 different rooms. Also if I have questions i would write the host and not asking him.

Think about it a little bit from the PoV that they are both mafia?


I didn‘t coach her while posting. Do you think she’d list Chez as town if I did that ?


Do you think she would be coachable if she was mafia? Because why would anyone let her do that?


I assume she would be, since we play on different computers.


Try to to coach me i will give no fuck and to what i want to do. I cannot be chastised. You should no that
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2023 09:12 GMT
#512
On May 24 2023 17:18 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:12 Vivax wrote:
The Chez TR made no sense in that list, aye. As the read on me/rayn still doesn‘t. At this point it doesn’t seem to just be a tease or troll read of sorts anymore.

I wouldn‘t say massive troll @DP. Aside from obvious shitposts, I think it‘s mostly her being in way over her head.

Game takes practice and we‘re routined players, so I believe that regardless of alignment, she doesn‘t know how to gather player sentiment and just posts half-baked stuff in the hopes that it holds some value to others.

Which is behaviour I would usually place as mafia, but with newbie card + bias + language barrier I don‘t really feel like going down that road. I feel like I brought her into this game so I’m also responsible for ensuring it’s fun :p

Oh and LS seemes town for tone to me , I don’t rely on much else when it comes to him this early in the game (but I won’t forget he slipped by as mafia once in I think the last game where Damdred was also in).

Meanwhile I take some issue with MZs tone, at times. It’s all very well written and the angles he shoots hold merit but appears tendentious/tunnely in approach.

That said, GTMH I‘d currently vote with my TRs Koshi/rayn and maybe marv no matter what.


I really hate this Ls town read stuff. He has barely posted about the game. Either you have all developed hyper accurate meta reads on each other because of small player pool. And these never change or are meta gamed. or it’s just bad habits. I’m leaning towards the latter.

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I had a good night of sleep.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 24 2023 09:16 GMT
#513
On May 24 2023 18:02 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 24 2023 13:44 DarthPunk wrote:
@Die Meat Baby

Why are you voting for Onegu when you think Vivax is mafia?

Please actually answer the question this time. :D


Becauce he is not active and I want to play the game real. Hate things like this. Don´t go in game if you are not playing... afk f0cks me up every time playing, not matter which game, so wanted to vote him out. Still i think Vivax is def. not town.


But Chezinu and Sentinel didn't post either, why Onegu.


Because he got one vote and two makes him out rather give my last vote to non active piss of shit and play real either to have and reduce the peace of shitness to two fucking annying peace of shit how sign up here but not playing
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
May 24 2023 09:17 GMT
#514
On May 24 2023 18:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:59 Vivax wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:51 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:42 Vivax wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am just gonna say, i wrote this:
On May 24 2023 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[...]
Vivax looks active and i'd say more likely town too. I didn't hate his last post, although there is a creeping suspicion about him and meatbaby goin like "hey can i say this in thread" -- "yeah it's fine, noone will believe you anyways and it's great distancing anyways", but i don't really have any other reason to think Vivax is mafia atm, and that reasoning in itself is stupid.
[...]

She pretty much instantly responds:
On May 24 2023 07:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
Me and vivax never talk about the game ever 2 pc´s 2 different rooms. Also if I have questions i would write the host and not asking him.

Think about it a little bit from the PoV that they are both mafia?


I didn‘t coach her while posting. Do you think she’d list Chez as town if I did that ?


Do you think she would be coachable if she was mafia? Because why would anyone let her do that?


I assume she would be, since we play on different computers.


Try to to coach me i will give no fuck and to what i want to do. I cannot be chastised. You should no that


I figured, but scumreading me for no reason at this point seems silly. I do expect silly things from you, until your head is facing the block. Then maybe you should try to cater to what the thread wants to know from you.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 24 2023 09:19 GMT
#515
btw is this like american Tv or can i use fuck to express my emtions on this shitheads who are not playing
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2023 09:19 GMT
#516
On May 24 2023 17:39 marvellosity wrote:
Can we get some MZ discussion up in here? Promise we can still talk about MB too…

MZ is the most obvious mafia misslynch if he is town.
Everybody is going to agree so no need to discuss it.

rayn said MZ is mafia, I said MZ is mafia, Vivax said it, you said it.

Like... What else do you need?
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
May 24 2023 09:19 GMT
#517
On May 24 2023 18:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
btw is this like american Tv or can i use fuck to express my emtions on this shitheads who are not playing


Only if you want to become besties with Koshi and rayn
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 24 2023 09:19 GMT
#518
shut up and bake me cake for tomorrow
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 24 2023 09:22 GMT
#519
On May 24 2023 18:19 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 18:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
btw is this like american Tv or can i use fuck to express my emtions on this shitheads who are not playing


Only if you want to become besties with Koshi and rayn


No still not happy about rayn but could change depends on his next votes

And if you try to fuck me up more i will find Koshi´s terraium and pet his snake
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 24 2023 09:23 GMT
#520
On May 24 2023 18:08 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:09 Koshi wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:01 Koshi wrote:
I talk about so many things.


There are context clues. What you were posting about with Rayn being 3/3 or whatever.


I can’t say I’m a fan of the tendency for people to be deliberately vague that has seemingly developed over the years.

His 3 mafia reads? Mebaby slam and MZ? Then add Vivax, Onegu and Sentinel and you have 3 out of 6 being mafia.

But now I see I forgot Chez so it is 3/7


I don’t think slam is mafia but thanks for clarifying.

Btw off topic: what part of Belgium are you from? my partner is from Antwerp and I really love visiting belgium.

My mother now lives in central Antwerp. I always went to school between Antwerp and Brussels in a city called Mechelen. And now I bought a house closer to my wife her family close to Brussels, on the Flemish side. So central Belgium Flemish side.


Nice. I love Brussels. I actually love the beer in Belgium too. We bring westmalle and duvel back every time we visit ( once a year roughly)
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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