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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 01 2023 02:05 GMT
#3021
##Vote: Marvellosity
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 01 2023 02:05 GMT
#3022
On June 01 2023 11:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok basically I am hoping that there is enough confusion in the direction I am going, that I get Night Killed therefore providing some further clarity to solving the game.

I think this game is basically in two worlds as I have said previously.

1.) Marv is mafia

or

2.) Marv is not mafia and I have been masterfully manipulated into thinking he is by the scum team.

The reason I believe this to be the case is that from the start of the game, two of the confirmed mafia have been setting up some kind of showdown between myself and marv.

Look at both the entry posts to the game from VE and LS



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On May 23 2023 23:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey I was busy last night and didn't check to see if the game started and caught up now!
Marv looks town to me? I think he would of folded as mafia considering he is known for that given the pressure he was getting from DP but he continued posting his thoughts like I remembered how he was in XXX in 2015.
VE is null he hasn't posted anything since a few hours ago will wait for judgement on him.
dmb is null the stuff for why she scumreading Vivax is very odd?
Koshi is town so far he been posting like I remembered how he was when I played back then.
Rayn looks town I like the pressure on dmb from him so far and waiting for a conclusion of his pressure on her.
DP I didn't like his early posting towards Marv (Even suggesting Marv is mafia??) and then gave a hard townread on dmb? His evolution of his read on Marv does seem organic. Null for now I guess.


LS was very spewy as mafia, I have read his filter again and again and everything points to some weird association with Marv:

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On May 25 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:03 Vivax wrote:
On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest.


Marv had trouble in handling SRs on him without exploding. But I think that applied to a lot of us gamers.
I think the paranoia on him got so annoying that he stopped fighting, doesn‘t mean he didn‘t fight for a good portion of his history and could do it again.

Maybe I am not getting why people were getting paranoid of his scum game though? Regardless though what is your read on Marv atm?

This is really out of place. Why would you ask your town read what his read on your other town read is in this situation?


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On May 25 2023 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:03 Vivax wrote:
On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest.


Marv had trouble in handling SRs on him without exploding. But I think that applied to a lot of us gamers.
I think the paranoia on him got so annoying that he stopped fighting, doesn‘t mean he didn‘t fight for a good portion of his history and could do it again.

Maybe I am not getting why people were getting paranoid of his scum game though? Regardless though what is your read on Marv atm?

This is really out of place. Why would you ask your town read what his read on your other town read is in this situation?

I wanted to see where he is at with Marv to gain another perspective? Like I know I could be wrong on Marv and all but he never posted it unless I misread his filter.


LS hard town reads and hard defends Marv all game, and he tries to throw as much doubt as possible on me all game.

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On May 25 2023 08:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Ok first filter I just looked at is MZ because I remembered he was wanting me dead and I did know people were wanting to lynch him: If he is town well he been tunneled on me and Marv this entire cycle and was making bad points towards Marv. Maybe mafia motivation because he refused to reconsider his reads on me and Marv.


Then LS tries to use the Koshi night kill to form a wagon on me:

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On May 25 2023 08:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Ok first filter I just looked at is MZ because I remembered he was wanting me dead and I did know people were wanting to lynch him: If he is town well he been tunneled on me and Marv this entire cycle and was making bad points towards Marv. Maybe mafia motivation because he refused to reconsider his reads on me and Marv.


Like this play is soooo polarising. Is that the point? Is LS such a god tier mafia player that he is trying to create an association with marv and myself from the start of the game, planning on never night killing either of us so that eventually we will mislynch eachother?

Or is he just literally bad, and is hard defending his strongest scum partner all game, and assuming we will talk ourselves out of it because it is Too simple.

I'm leaning towards the latter at this point.

I think this next post is really weird:

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On May 29 2023 10:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2023 10:54 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 29 2023 10:50 LightningStrike wrote:
DP if I flip town (Which I know I will) Can you name your mafia team?


Yep. Marv and DMB.

Reason for DMB?



I give my scum team if LS is mafia, and he doesn't ask for clarity on why marv is in the team, presumably if marv is town then he knows I am wrong on this point, and he is trying to get me lynched, so why doesn't he push back here. I think its because he knows I am correct

Like most of LS's play in this game is oriented around marv, and I just don;t believe he is good enough to do that deliberately, planned from the start of the game, in order to get marv mislynched when he could just NK town marv.

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On May 29 2023 11:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Well that NK point towards me.... At least I was right about my read on him.

Why?

I am not seeing how this NK implicates anyone, Rayn was so town it hurts and is the only one of us who has managed to actually catch scum

Like the team would then just let him live?

Pure WIFOM to think anything is implied by this NK other than "raynpelikoneet good"

Let's see in his last will he did say to lynch me today. Yes I do know he is a good player but why did he not get killed Night 1 then?


My god this is bad. Is Koshi not a good player?

Look how easy it is do even a smiple NK anallysis of this

Koshi suspected Marv during day 1 Died Night 1

Rayn suspected Marv during day 2 Died Night 2.

Marv is generally a legit monster town player why did he not die night 1.

Like, I don't even.....

Koshi in general doesn't die Night 1 over Rayn at least from what I remembered when both are town heck he flips his reads a bit more than Rayn does in general. Marv not dying Night 1 could set him up as a possible lynch or him being wrong? I guess idk man it's WIFOM. Maybe Rayn and Koshi were right and I was wrong about Marv?



THIS NEXT POST IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POST IN THE GAME

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On May 30 2023 03:29 marvellosity wrote:
LightningStrike, if you are town you need to vote with me and lynch DP.

If not, then I will flip town, DP will get lynched and flip mafia, then you will get lynched. Your choice bud.




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On May 30 2023 04:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 30 2023 03:29 marvellosity wrote:
LightningStrike, if you are town you need to vote with me and lynch DP.

If not, then I will flip town, DP will get lynched and flip mafia, then you will get lynched. Your choice bud.

This appeal to emotion is just to strong for me. If he is mafia he wouldn't of appealed to me this hard over others.
## Vote: DarthPunk


This is one of the reasons Marv gave for thinking LS was mafia.

But he literally says, if you are town you will do this. This is a massive massive contradiction that town Marv is too good to make.

Town Marv does not say this:

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On May 30 2023 03:29 marvellosity wrote:
LightningStrike, if you are town you need to vote with me and lynch DP.

If not, then I will flip town, DP will get lynched and flip mafia, then you will get lynched. Your choice bud.


To then lynch that person for doing exactly what he asked for.

Town Marv does not just ignore this meta post which accurately describes his play this game

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On May 31 2023 13:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 17 2015 20:14 marvellosity wrote:
can you even *imagine* what my filter *should* look like in a game this size?

not getting lynched when everyone realises you're mafia is quite the achievement, i'd say :p

There's no such thing as "stylistically" calling certain townies mafia. That's just incorrect play, nothing more, nothing less. And he wasn't the only one.

edit: like town needs to cut through what's important and what's not. calling obvious townies and likely townies mafia is what lets mafia hide!

Damdred and I were playing below our towngames, and noticeably so, and that's what was *actually* important, but it was beautifully drowned out (from scum PoV) from all the crackpot nonsense going on around us, hiding us in amongst the bs.



yeah.....


Town marv does not talk about who is 'worthy of a swap

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On May 31 2023 16:28 marvellosity wrote:
On May 31 2023 16:27 TankTopTiger wrote:
Then I'm happy to be lynched, right after you ofc.

You’re not worthy of a 1 to 1 swap. DP is.


Town marv finds and lynches mafia, and talks about who is and isn't mafia.

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On May 31 2023 16:51 marvellosity wrote:
Let’s not engage again. I literally cannot wait for post game if you’re town



Town marv does not prey on fear. He lynches mafia based on logic


I also have been thinking of VE back flip on Marv and myself one must be mafia.

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On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3.

1) [UoN]Sentinel
2) Alakaslam
3) Chezinu
4) Vivax
5) LightningStrike
6) DarthPunk
7) Onegu
8) Koshi
9) die_meatbaby
10) raynpelikoneet
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) marvellosity
13) VisceraEyes

I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv.

I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads.

MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that.


I think this post nailed him:

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On May 24 2023 19:26 DarthPunk wrote:
By the way I have been reading my old games, and I came across this:

On September 28 2014 12:41 geript wrote:
But maybe DP. VE really does like to do "one of these two is mafia" as mafia, lynch the town then form a townread on his partner.


I know I said I would not use meta, but I thought I would put it out there for discussion of something other than DMB


Marv saw the post, and is like Oh Shit!

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On May 24 2023 20:27 marvellosity wrote:
On May 24 2023 19:26 DarthPunk wrote:
By the way I have been reading my old games, and I came across this:

On September 28 2014 12:41 geript wrote:
But maybe DP. VE really does like to do "one of these two is mafia" as mafia, lynch the town then form a townread on his partner.


I know I said I would not use meta, but I thought I would put it out there for discussion of something other than DMB

Saucy, I like it


And then VE backs out for no reason

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On May 25 2023 02:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2023 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I still think the meat train sucks. Like, I'm filtering Vivax now and I'd much rather lynch that than the meaty one. Here I'll show you.

Where did the one of marv/DP is scum end and why?

Did you not hear my song?

Marv and DP both look better on reread, idk if work/sleep changed my perspective, but they both seem town now. I couldn't even remember when I woke up and filtered MYSELF why I actually thought marv was mafia. DP has been like ubertryhard town the whole time.

I'm more interested in why you give a shit unless you want to lynch one of DP or marv and why you aren't CURRENTLY voting Vivax.


I promise that I have really, really tried to think about a situation that Marv is town, if only because it will mean the LS switch was godlike.

But honestly, there is no way Marv is not mafia in this spot.

If I die, you need to lynch him.

If you don't believe you need to lynch him.

DO NOT LET HIM GET TO A LYLO WITH DMB AND TTT

DMB you have been pocketed hard this game, I would really like you to turn that natural scepticism onto marv and genuinely consider thatTTT and I might have solved the game, yesterday was a scum LS vs Scum Marv lynch and it really was that simple. Because OCCAMS RAZOR


Somehow, if you lynch Marv and he is town, the final mafia is most likely chezinu for the reasons I pushed after the night 3 post, and Spew from LS

BUT THIS IS ONLY IF MARV FLIPS GREEN

Wow

Ok

Wow

I am not a man of my word... glad you weren't shot
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 01 2023 02:07 GMT
#3023
For what it is worth, I'm VT. So although it would have been convenient to be the target, we all know that's lol.

But that is a damned solid case by DP
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 01 2023 02:12 GMT
#3024
enough pregame chat, let's start I need my role PM Chezinu
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 01 2023 02:16 GMT
#3025
I do not make for an attractive nk, but I am definitely a good ML candidate always
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7456 Posts
June 01 2023 02:17 GMT
#3026
On June 01 2023 11:12 Alakaslam wrote:
enough pregame chat, let's start I need my role PM Chezinu

I'm about to write the OP. I'm going to write one with my phone. Since you asked, I'll give you your role now.

Eyes only for Slam!!!
+ Show Spoiler +
townie


OP incoming!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 01 2023 02:19 GMT
#3027
On May 31 2023 22:03 Alakaslam wrote:
I'm back to never, ever, period, lynching Marv this game.


On May 31 2023 22:05 Alakaslam wrote:
But never lynching marv.



This was god-tier wifom by the way
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 01 2023 02:20 GMT
#3028
On May 31 2023 21:44 marvellosity wrote:
And I don’t think it’ll be you, DMB, for anything to do with TTT. I just think it’s the obvious kill at this stage


This is the Kicker with the NK by the way, this was not the obvious night kill to me at all. Its reeks of Wifom.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7456 Posts
June 01 2023 02:34 GMT
#3029
Title: TeamLiquid Mafia - Protect the Townsfolk in a Race Against Time!

---

Welcome to TeamLiquid Mafia: The Ultimate Test of Deduction and Heroism!

Prepare yourself for an exciting twist on the classic Mafia game. In TeamLiquid Mafia, your mission is not just to identify and eliminate the Mafia members but also to protect the innocent Townsfolk from harm. Can you become the hero the town desperately needs?

For those new to the Mafia genre, TeamLiquid Mafia is a thrilling social deduction game where players are divided into two factions: the Mafia and the Townsfolk. The Mafia aims to eliminate the innocent townspeople, while the Townsfolk strive to uncover and eliminate the Mafia members. Each player is assigned a secret role that determines their allegiance and abilities. The game progresses through alternating day and night phases, where players discuss, strategize, and vote to eliminate suspicious individuals.

In this unique twist on the game, your goal as a Townsfolk member is to protect the most likely innocent player during the day phase. Instead of trying to eliminate suspects, you must rally the town's support behind the person you believe is most likely to be a genuine Townsfolk. You'll need to carefully analyze each player's actions, statements, voting patterns, and other crucial factors to make an informed decision.

Here are a few key features that set TeamLiquid Mafia's Protect-the-Town twist apart:

1. Saving the Innocent: Your main objective is to identify and protect the player you believe is least likely to be a Mafia member. This adds an extra layer of strategy and teamwork, as you need to convince others to trust your judgment and collectively safeguard the innocent.

2. Analytical Gameplay: Sharpen your analytical skills as you closely observe players' behaviors, scrutinize their voting patterns, and interpret their statements to make well-informed decisions. Every detail matters as you navigate the intricate web of deception.

3. Collaborative Strategies: Forge alliances and work together with other Townsfolk members to uncover the truth. Share your insights, coordinate votes, and establish a united front against the Mafia's manipulations.

4. Tense Day-Night Cycles: Experience the heart-pounding thrill of alternating between day and night phases. The daytime is for discussion, analysis, and strategizing, while the night phase provides opportunities for hidden actions and secret abilities.

5. Unexpected Twists: Beware of unexpected plot twists and surprising character dynamics that can turn the tide of the game. Stay vigilant, adapt your strategies, and uncover the truth amidst the chaos.

Will you rise as the ultimate protector or succumb to the cunning tactics of the Mafia? To learn more about this unique twist and start your journey of heroism.

Remember, the fate of the innocent rests in your hands! Can you save them from the clutches of darkness?

Player list:
1) TankTopTiger
+ Show Spoiler +
townie


2) Alakaslam
+ Show Spoiler +
townie


3) Chezinu
+ Show Spoiler +
Special


6) DarthPunk
+ Show Spoiler +
Mafia


12) marvellosity
+ Show Spoiler +
DarthKiller


Voting the Most Townie rules to save them:

%%Vote Playername

In this thread.



lol, clueless in The Prism!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 01 2023 02:36 GMT
#3030
Day Four Vote Count

Marvellosity (3): DarthPunk, Alakaslam, TankTopTiger

Not Voting (2) : Chezinu, Marvellosity

With 3 votes, Marvellosity is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Jun 03 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7456 Posts
June 01 2023 02:36 GMT
#3031
Hey guys, who do you think is town?

Slam has been the most straightforward player this whole game when it has come to his alignment.

DP and Marv box themselves to the death. That leaves TTT, the old sentinel to watch from above.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7456 Posts
June 01 2023 02:42 GMT
#3032
Tis a sad game for Chez. The whole game and not once was he on the edge of getting voted off.

Was he too townie this game!?!?!?

Please vote for Chez if you believe he was the most townie and save him!

%%Vote Chezinu
lol, clueless in The Prism!
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 01 2023 02:49 GMT
#3033
%%vote:Darthpunk

He got the wrong role message.

Bastard hosting
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7456 Posts
June 01 2023 02:58 GMT
#3034
On June 01 2023 11:49 DarthPunk wrote:
%%vote:Darthpunk

He got the wrong role message.

Bastard hosting

Why are you so blue?

+ Show Spoiler +
Host messages are not indicative of role within mini game
lol, clueless in The Prism!
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 01 2023 02:58 GMT
#3035
On June 01 2023 11:58 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2023 11:49 DarthPunk wrote:
%%vote:Darthpunk

He got the wrong role message.

Bastard hosting

Why are you so blue?

+ Show Spoiler +
Host messages are not indicative of role within mini game


I thought you were blue?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7456 Posts
June 01 2023 03:09 GMT
#3036
On June 01 2023 11:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2023 11:58 Chezinu wrote:
On June 01 2023 11:49 DarthPunk wrote:
%%vote:Darthpunk

He got the wrong role message.

Bastard hosting

Why are you so blue?

+ Show Spoiler +
Host messages are not indicative of role within mini game


I thought you were blue?

Nah, I'm special.

I just troll check people.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7456 Posts
June 01 2023 03:12 GMT
#3037
On April 05 2023 14:10 Alakaslam wrote:
/into the wild blue 5th dimension (pushing the 6th)

You know any good parallel universe movies?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 01 2023 03:12 GMT
#3038
On June 01 2023 12:09 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2023 11:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 01 2023 11:58 Chezinu wrote:
On June 01 2023 11:49 DarthPunk wrote:
%%vote:Darthpunk

He got the wrong role message.

Bastard hosting

Why are you so blue?

+ Show Spoiler +
Host messages are not indicative of role within mini game


I thought you were blue?

Nah, I'm special.

I just troll check people.


I don't think you are a full troll, more like troll adjacent.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7456 Posts
June 01 2023 03:19 GMT
#3039
On May 24 2023 23:26 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:22 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:20 marvellosity wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't even understand who fears marv's scumgame?

Oi, I used to have a phenomenal record as mafia. Maybe not so much the last few games...


I remember when you were feared as scum. I think it was before Rayn joined though. After he joined I remember you just not trying that hard lol.

Here is another reason I couldn't put into words that Marv is obvtown to me lol

Fear is the wrong strategy as mafia imo.

I like to have fun.

Exhibit A: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/110026-mini-mafia-iii?page=6#112
lol, clueless in The Prism!
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 01 2023 03:25 GMT
#3040
On June 01 2023 12:19 Chezinu wrote:
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On May 24 2023 23:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:22 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:20 marvellosity wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't even understand who fears marv's scumgame?

Oi, I used to have a phenomenal record as mafia. Maybe not so much the last few games...


I remember when you were feared as scum. I think it was before Rayn joined though. After he joined I remember you just not trying that hard lol.

Here is another reason I couldn't put into words that Marv is obvtown to me lol

Fear is the wrong strategy as mafia imo.

I like to have fun.

Exhibit A: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/110026-mini-mafia-iii?page=6#112


Are you claiming mafia here lmao?
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