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marvellosity
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On May 25 2023 18:52 Koshi wrote: Yes it is the egg en chicken story. You betrayed us. Now there is this. marv is a gentle soul. Talk to him. He is way less vindictive than I am. Well he isn't at all. And I am 101% Never thought I’d see the day someone characterised my play like this :p | ||
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marvellosity
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I also think the drop off DMB was a natural one. There’s no reason a mafia Koshi needs to do this. Just can’t see anywhere in what you wrote why it makes Koshi mafia. | ||
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marvellosity
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Oh as if. I was being sarcastic/rhetorical with the last question! | ||
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marvellosity
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Well, highly emotional reactions to such wagons/flips are typical. I’m not saying he can’t do it as mafia, but it’s certainly consistent with his town play as well. If I’m choosing between you two, you’re definitely not going to like the answer | ||
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On May 25 2023 19:43 die_meatbaby wrote: koshi can´t handle the way how i play as a newbe. Tu much effort, or just the fact that I trolled a little bit in the beginning with discord to find my towncolleges. mafia was at this moment just quiet and laughing about my theorie and town people tried to find my point in this randomshitness. Was easier to me to find townies like you and koshi. I think i have to be voted out to make koshi a pretty nice suprise that he lost another townie. Anyways I am now really not shure about VE. He was like i don´t vote that after i explained how i tried to find townpeople and was the second person after voting on Vivax. Do mafia know he was doctor? or to they just know that he was town? also not happy about rayn by the way. in the night he changed his mind as well and voted on vivax. Reason from him was that V isn´t as paranoid as in the other games. Same reason why i thought he is mafia, but didn´t write it becauce i didn´t want to leek something from his personalty in rl. Why did he do did just in the night from europ. Like he know koshi and dp where sleeping and that V and me also were very tiered at this point. rayn never voted for Vivax | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 25 2023 19:51 die_meatbaby wrote: but still tried people to vote on v instead of MZ and not science the begining more like in the last few hours before the voting finished. Also he had so much compassion on me when i tried to offend my self. And wrote : guys you can´t make me vote on this. IF i was a doctor i would give her save. Like this soundss so obv as mafia. He see that a new girl here get 4 votes and is town, just tried another way to play and hat pity on me. You’re talking about rayn right? What I will say is that despite your earlier post on the subject, there are plenty of people who do have compassion… Assuming you are town, don’t you want to be in the position where you are changing peoples minds on you? Need it be suspicious when they do? | ||
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marvellosity
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Maybe? Like do you genuinely believe a highly active player flip flopping all over the place is particularly scummy? You know that’s the opposite of what mafia actually do, right? | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 25 2023 20:04 Grackaroni wrote: TankTopTiger has replaced [UoN]Sentinel Oh yes, welcome. You got a lot of work to do  | ||
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marvellosity
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Give it a think. | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote: Hi, I'm the sub for Sentinel. I'm caught up, but just pushed 1400 posts through my brain at top speed so don't expect me to be 100% on the ball. I'm going off vibes, so please feel free to correct me. I've played before, maybe 10 newbie games. I'm an IRL friend of DP. I've also played meatspace werewolf a fair amount. I haven't played forum mafia in close to a decade, and don't really plan on approaching the game the same way anyway. From what I see, there seems to be some mutual respect between Rayne, DP, and Marv. Almost like they are playing for who controls the endgame and the rest of you are just the social environment that facilitates it. Out of the three, I have no idea why people are acting like Marv is obviously town. He plays like an empty vessel. I'm obviously not part of whatever meta you guys have, but IMO MZ's aggression towards Marv has been warranted. I would have voted for Vivax over MZ, who I get a town read off. So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence? IMO both Rayn and DP have provided insight, and in my eyes are earning their status, but not Marv. Regarding VE, they strike me as committed to a bit. I'm not sure why they had such insane confidence, but honestly, a lot of how you guys talk comes off as fake to me. Not exerted any influence? My target would have been lynched if not for some crazy EOD shenanigans and the fact i was asleep. How Much more influence do you want? | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 25 2023 20:50 TankTopTiger wrote: Can you give me a time frame for when this vetting occurred? Because IMO that early nonsense where people push and pull based on nothing but farts means zero so establishing someone's alignment forevermore during that primordial soup is not a strong foundation for a town. RE: Contradiction It's not a contradiction. Having genuine reads is not the opposite of passivity. He asks a lot of questions (good), but then doesn't seem to take them anywhere in service to anything but his survival. I don't like fake reads, I think they muddy shit up. They're necessary to get the ball rolling, but once the ball is rolling I expect genuine reads not empty accusations. The ball is rolling and has been for a while, so IMO we don't need them. Again, to reiterate, confirmed town VIvax made the same case at almost the same time as me on MZ Seriously, think about it a bit. Vivax’s read is literally confirmed townie. Mine, made at the same time is …… ? Fill in the dots for me xx | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 25 2023 21:15 die_meatbaby wrote: if you are town you will die in the first night for shure. Mafia are to scared of good players like you, so they make you die, because they know people would vote me out directly and so we lose 3 town people in D1 N1 and D2. If you don´t die in this night you are more likly to be mafia (for me) and people would vote on you on d2 I don’t think you will be voted out day 2. | ||
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marvellosity
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Consider for a moment, friend, that I don’t know the alignment of our new person and I might like to try to get him to apply some critical thinking - or display that he refuses. The fact it’s all about me is a happy coincidence  | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 25 2023 21:17 Koshi wrote: ... ... ... Can I please get shot so I can see marv defending himself against MZ, TTT and Mebaby while DP is cackling maniacally in the corner? Pls no | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 25 2023 21:19 TankTopTiger wrote: I don't really remember your compelling case. Like I said I'm running off vibes. If I'm wrong, show me. From my perspective, you're being respected as some sort of veteran who people give concessions to and who people sheep onto when they can't figure shit out for themselves. But I don't care for that. I want to see your actions that justify you being treated as town. Was there some great post you did that buried MZ, or did you just ride your incumbency? So perhaps "influence" is the wrong word, what I'm after is the influencing actions. If you could highlight those for me I'd greatly appreciate it. Read my filter, it’s in my biggest post. Plus I talk about my read multiple times. If you can’t remember or find the posts that I’m talking about, that kinda invalidates everything you are shading towards me, doesn’t it? P.S influencing actions = I got my biggest townreads to vote with me on my wagon, only to be derailed last minute by madness. There is no semantic difference between “influence” and “influencing actions”, all we have is our words in our posts, and what comes of those. | ||
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marvellosity
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How about you take your time and actually read my posts first, if you are actually suspicious of me, and we can have a sensible discussion. Or, you know, keep doing what you’re doing. | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 25 2023 21:32 TankTopTiger wrote: Nah this is BS. Absence of evidence and all that. I'm asking you to substantiate your town status. You say you made a case but can't point to it. Now I have to remember or reread every single post or can't question you. Bullshit. Koshi says you were vetted but that's not what I remember. You say you made a case but that's not what I remember. I'm not reading it all again. There's an easy way to clear this up. I don't need it right now, we've got three days until next lynch. Do you have access to a computer in that time? Evidence is all in my filter. Literally everything I’ve done is completely available for you to see. Noting I have done is hidden from anyone. Jesus Christ. | ||
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marvellosity
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https://tl.net/forum/mafia/609557-tl-endures-mafia?user=marvellosity You’re welcome | ||
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