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On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? | ||
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On August 30 2022 04:21 Jockmcplop wrote: Fair enough. Oh its ok the rule is vote palmar day 1 or if he's not there vote holyflare. His post makes sense after the clarification. It didn't before, I assume that why you posted 'what?'. Why does saying this game has a rber that doesn't rb make any sense? Can't find anything about it in the OP. | ||
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Also, I've grown and adapted as a human being so take this in full faith that I, as a townie, am doing this with the utmost sincerity because I really liked Koshi's MZ points (yes, this parrots what Rayn is saying above). I just think he extrapolated the read a smidge too far to apply it to copcake and then distracted himself. ##Vote MZ | ||
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Koshi's post: MZ: sticking out but not in a helpful way. Creating discussion around problems he created. Like "this joke" is mafia. Yes, I like Tube for pointing out the joke reads were hilarious. Should I like MZ for helping me like Tube? No. I dont think I will. But maybe I should. MZ helped me like Tube. Hmmm Then he gets distracted with copcake and his copcake read is causing him to have back and forth thoughts on MZ. For instance, even though he concludes that it's probably tinfoil and could be a bus I think if you read between the lines in #285 his mind kind of settles on that maybe he's taking the MZ read too far (at least IMO). After a bit of back and forth with Cop, he then kinda derails even further and just throws out random names. As far as MZ is concerned: • #246 I don't think Copcake could be considered fluff posting at any stage of the game (in fact, I get the same tinfoil vibes that Koshi did even because Copcake is such a random name to throw out that it doesn't look like anything more than partner vibes). In my view, it's obvious why Cop was asking Rayn about if I was in the game because that leads to the evaluation of whether what I'm posting has any merit to it or not. It doesn't seem like fluff at all. This is made even worse because #247 in the very next post he's even asking Rayn about his original post. Sure, it's a clarification and slightly helpful but it's the height of hypocrisy just after saying Cop was fluff posting about stuff like this. • I think his general approach to Dec has been bad. Dec's post was obviously a joke, I'd made like 1 post calling myself town. In the same breath that he calls Dec mafia in #250 for not making it an obvious joke, he's highlighting my post saying "This is an obvious joke" but not putting two and two together that that was basically the only post I made so Dec's post is obviously massively facetious. In my mind, I would expect MZ to admit he might have misread it as serious when it was a joke and back off a bit but he doubles down and that's bad. • #252 is what I would classify in my initial summary as "robotic". The "agree to disagree" into "talk to me about Jock" into "what do you think of Cop?" is such an awkwardly written post in comparison to anything else he's done. It feels clumsy, like he doesn't actually care about the follow up but he's just kind of leaving out empty questions. He hasn't elaborated any more about Cop since his first statement, hasn't highlighted any posts about Cop, nor has he been really determined to do anything about Cop. Compare this to what he talked about with regards to Dec and the tinfoil team is just reinforced even further. Hope that clarifies stuff for you. | ||
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On August 30 2022 23:06 deconduo wrote: We're allowed to unvote and switch votes right? Don't see anything about it in the OP Yes. | ||
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I think your explanation and Rayn's fit into the same category, although I think Rayn's can come from mafia sometimes since I feel like the explanation on Koshi is a bit overexplain-y and sure about himself (but it's been a while since I've played with rayn properly and in the back of my head it seems to fit with my picture of rayn just fine anyway). I'm happy to give Rayn the benefit of the doubt and call him townie for it because building up town reads, especially in the form of Koshi, is nothing but beneficial in the early game and I think highlighting that Koshi got eliminated in the last game for doing the same thing really narrows down that avenue for a miselimination if Rayn were mafia (which I don't think would be his angle). Vivax is in a bit of an odd spot. I've played a couple of games with him on MU and while he's been somewhat aloof in those games, there's been times where he's really driven down wild narratives/explanations that I haven't seen here yet. I don't think his vote on MZ is bad, obviously, and I don't really think saying it's the first filter he opened is bad lol but I do understand why he's not posting as much here. It's a bit of a tedious experience comparatively for quality of life features :D Temporarily postponing thoughts on Vivax until he posts something useful that I disagree vehemently with (in which case he's probably town :D), or MZ shines like a townie beacon. | ||
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On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF. There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere? Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing. Absolutely With this caveat: On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote: To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation. | ||
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On August 30 2022 23:42 CopCake wrote: I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning. Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list. Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting. I agree it's bad reasoning lol. Are you trying to convince me away from it or something? Does it influence your read on me in any way? | ||
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On August 30 2022 23:50 CopCake wrote: Yes, it does and I am not trying to convince you, I am trying to understand you. Thought I made myself quite clear though. I don't scum read you, I just find that MZ's treatment of you is odd, his mentioning of you for something I don't think applies to you is bad and his hypocrisy in the very next post he made after it shows he doesn't actually even put any stock into his own read of you. I can easily see it being a partner interaction regardless of what I think about my read on you. | ||
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Firstly, I think his post here: Is needlessly regressive. If you were in the game Rayn was talking about (which Slam was) then clarifying the typo to "this game" means nothing because it should have been obvious what he was talking about from the onset, in which case nothing changes. Secondly, his reference in his opening post including: I'm gonna get lynched for this aren't I? is just the right level of self-deprecation I'd expect from someone hypersensitive about how their posts come across which in my experience, Slam, at least as town, is not. His further posts don't really lead to any kind of evaluation either. He was going to scum read Rayn but remembered Rayn was just bitter as either alignment, he gets into some weird mechanics argument with Dandel in #263 for a while (and actually in this post hesitates in scum reading Dandel?) Then he circularly references his original suspicion in #269 saying he has no scum reads and that maybe Rayn is just mafia after all? It doesn't read like a genuine thought process and I think he was afraid to push too far onto Dandel for fear of repercussions, rather than a genuine intent to solve Dandel's alignment. | ||
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On August 30 2022 21:20 deconduo wrote: Where did HF go? I think he's actually moving to my mafia list By the way, why did you think this? | ||
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On August 31 2022 00:56 Vivax wrote: Intriguing, my inner workings sometimes require me to be unhappy and feel good about it I'm a curious fella tho Do something yo | ||
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