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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2022 19:41 GMT
#1905
Being kept in the dark about what?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2022 19:49 GMT
#1907
On September 06 2022 04:43 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 04:41 Holyflare wrote:
Being kept in the dark about what?


You don‘t treat this like a normal game of mafia and you joined it after claiming retirement

There‘s got to be something


I was retired but I turned down playing with Grack before and then when he PMd me here and said I could be really inactive and still play I just thought it'd be nice to play with people I basically grew up with one last time before actually quitting for good.

I didn't know how much the lack of functionality of the site really got in the way of playing though. I miss vote counts and pinging someone and the little red thing at the top telling me when there's a new post.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2022 19:56 GMT
#1911
On September 06 2022 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't know how much the lack of functionality of the site really got in the way of playing though. I miss vote counts and pinging someone and the little red thing at the top telling me when there's a new post.

puff poff now you're quite being a dick on TL ppl.


If you enjoy using it more power to you. It's not being a dick to have a preference for automation and convenience. Just nice quality of life things that mean I can just focus on the game quicker.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2022 20:02 GMT
#1917
I've been active enough
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2022 20:05 GMT
#1924
On September 06 2022 05:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 05:02 Holyflare wrote:
I've been active enough

then why are you complaining?


I'm telling Vivax why he's not in the dark, I'm just being less active than usual because I'm busy and it's less convenient to check the thread or respond when called.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 05 2022 20:14 GMT
#1935
I'm in a job currently, I'm just looking to upgrade (and it's the interviews that are keeping me busy)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 06 2022 16:16 GMT
#2025
On September 06 2022 23:58 Rels wrote:
whelp. Looks like that is it :p
GL HF on the last lynch


There's 2 more after you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 06 2022 18:33 GMT
#2043
Copcake and rels same.

Do with that information as you see fit. Gg.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 06 2022 18:51 GMT
#2048
On September 07 2022 03:46 Vivax wrote:
HF climbs the truth ladder. Redeemed.
If anyone ever makes a movie about my mafia insanity I insist on an actor I know from old school days, he‘ll appreciate a few old pics I got


Jokes I got rbd
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 06 2022 19:27 GMT
#2053
Lynch the unCCd parity that wasn't ever up for a wagon tomorrow and is likely to die tonight? Have you thought that one through? :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 07 2022 14:13 GMT
#2068
On September 07 2022 21:32 Mattchew wrote:
I am not able to post again for a bit but i would love if holyflare would clarify his claim


You'll get clarification when I'm dead.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 07 2022 14:40 GMT
#2071
You think we're in a game with no blues? :D

If I'm alive and just roleblocked then so be it. I don't like that your first instinct is to just blindly say I'm mafia for it though, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 07 2022 14:44 GMT
#2073
On September 07 2022 23:41 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2022 23:40 Holyflare wrote:
You think we're in a game with no blues? :D

If I'm alive and just roleblocked then so be it. I don't like that your first instinct is to just blindly say I'm mafia for it though, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.


Of course it makes sense because I am town, what do you want me to believe when you say that rels and me are "same" when it is not true?

And I know there are blues, I am not an idiot.

Are you trying to fish?


I was trying to bait someone into saying they didn't believe my check because they knew I was actually roleblocked.

Since I've said I was roleblocked your continued "He is mafia" stance is just sticking out as really stale.

There's also potential unaware millers in this game but you didn't really weigh that up, you just went on a massive defensive.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 07 2022 14:46 GMT
#2074
On September 07 2022 23:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2022 23:41 CopCake wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:40 Holyflare wrote:
You think we're in a game with no blues? :D

If I'm alive and just roleblocked then so be it. I don't like that your first instinct is to just blindly say I'm mafia for it though, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.


Of course it makes sense because I am town, what do you want me to believe when you say that rels and me are "same" when it is not true?

And I know there are blues, I am not an idiot.

Are you trying to fish?


I was trying to bait someone into saying they didn't believe my check because they knew I was actually roleblocked.

Since I've said I was roleblocked your continued "He is mafia" stance is just sticking out as really stale.

There's also potential unaware millers in this game but you didn't really weigh that up, you just went on a massive defensive.


The last sentence is particularly why I think you've probably outed yourself as mafia. It's a perspective slip. I have no reason to lie about my check as town (eg, Vivax's reaction of semi-belief). If you are town, your first instinct should be to realise that I could actually have that check and that you might be an unaware miller. What other reason do I have to simply out myself on a night phase with that kind of information? There is none, simply no benefit as mafia to do it. Infinite benefit as town.

What you actually did though, knowing that I was roleblocked, is to detract from that claim saying you don't believe I am a cop either because you're a godfather and wouldn't show as same, or because you roleblocked me. Who knows whether I'm still lying about being roleblocked and I actually did get a check off

I'm quite sure you did out yourself though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 07 2022 14:49 GMT
#2077
Why would I go straight after any of you when I didn't know any of your alignments???

On September 07 2022 23:48 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2022 23:46 Holyflare wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:44 Holyflare wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:41 CopCake wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:40 Holyflare wrote:
You think we're in a game with no blues? :D

If I'm alive and just roleblocked then so be it. I don't like that your first instinct is to just blindly say I'm mafia for it though, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.


Of course it makes sense because I am town, what do you want me to believe when you say that rels and me are "same" when it is not true?

And I know there are blues, I am not an idiot.

Are you trying to fish?


I was trying to bait someone into saying they didn't believe my check because they knew I was actually roleblocked.

Since I've said I was roleblocked your continued "He is mafia" stance is just sticking out as really stale.

There's also potential unaware millers in this game but you didn't really weigh that up, you just went on a massive defensive.


The last sentence is particularly why I think you've probably outed yourself as mafia. It's a perspective slip. I have no reason to lie about my check as town (eg, Vivax's reaction of semi-belief). If you are town, your first instinct should be to realise that I could actually have that check and that you might be an unaware miller. What other reason do I have to simply out myself on a night phase with that kind of information? There is none, simply no benefit as mafia to do it. Infinite benefit as town.

What you actually did though, knowing that I was roleblocked, is to detract from that claim saying you don't believe I am a cop either because you're a godfather and wouldn't show as same, or because you roleblocked me. Who knows whether I'm still lying about being roleblocked and I actually did get a check off

I'm quite sure you did out yourself though.


I never confirmed you were blocked tho or where did I say that?


Reading between the lines is enough.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 07 2022 15:00 GMT
#2080
On September 07 2022 23:50 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2022 23:38 CopCake wrote:
Then when he is alive "Oh no I got blocked (like he said before) and mafia kept me alive for a misslynch", yet he says "he has results"


Like I never confirmed anything there, I am just playing the scenario and your contradictions.





On September 07 2022 03:50 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2022 03:33 Holyflare wrote:
Copcake and rels same.

Do with that information as you see fit. Gg.


You didnt even want to vote for rels, how does that even make sense? Lol


I did vote for Rels. I called him mafia and voted him. As mafia, you see this information and your statement isn't "Wow, maybe I'm an unaware miller!" or "I don't believe you" it's simply that I didn't even want to vote for Rels? Why does this make sense from a townie perspective of someone who is just being outed as red with no further explanation?

On September 07 2022 04:24 CopCake wrote:
This gives vibes of “I am the cop you idiot”.

We lynch hin tomorrow.


I say that I'm roleblocked. Only mafia know whether that is true or not. As a townie there's no reason not to believe I was roleblocked. I wasn't up for contention of being a wagon, I wasn't under the spotlight, there wasn't really any threat in the game to do this. Being roleblocked was actually clearing for CopCake and should make a hell of a lot more sense as town who is being wrongly accused of being mafia.

You know why this reaction is the way it is? Because mafia didn't actually roleblock me, Cop knows that and knows I'm town. The only other explanation that makes sense for me to lie in this scenario is the exact one she presents "I'm a cop you idiot vibes", where I'm a townie faking that I'm cop.

On September 07 2022 04:32 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2022 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
Lynch the unCCd parity that wasn't ever up for a wagon tomorrow and is likely to die tonight? Have you thought that one through? :D


How can mafia kill themselves?


She still believes I'm simply mafia that did a 0-1% beneficial play because she's simply in a world where she has to view my play as mafia indicative instead of reevaluating it.

On September 07 2022 23:38 CopCake wrote:
Then when he is alive "Oh no I got blocked (like he said before) and mafia kept me alive for a misslynch", yet he says "he has results"


There is no out here for me to simply be town. She has shut down every avenue and not evaluated this with a head that's looking to solve. It's simply all just mafia scenarios and narratives because it's what she has to do.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 07 2022 15:03 GMT
#2081
On September 07 2022 23:51 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2022 23:49 Holyflare wrote:
Why would I go straight after any of you when I didn't know any of your alignments???

On September 07 2022 23:48 CopCake wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:46 Holyflare wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:44 Holyflare wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:41 CopCake wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:40 Holyflare wrote:
You think we're in a game with no blues? :D

If I'm alive and just roleblocked then so be it. I don't like that your first instinct is to just blindly say I'm mafia for it though, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.


Of course it makes sense because I am town, what do you want me to believe when you say that rels and me are "same" when it is not true?

And I know there are blues, I am not an idiot.

Are you trying to fish?


I was trying to bait someone into saying they didn't believe my check because they knew I was actually roleblocked.

Since I've said I was roleblocked your continued "He is mafia" stance is just sticking out as really stale.

There's also potential unaware millers in this game but you didn't really weigh that up, you just went on a massive defensive.


The last sentence is particularly why I think you've probably outed yourself as mafia. It's a perspective slip. I have no reason to lie about my check as town (eg, Vivax's reaction of semi-belief). If you are town, your first instinct should be to realise that I could actually have that check and that you might be an unaware miller. What other reason do I have to simply out myself on a night phase with that kind of information? There is none, simply no benefit as mafia to do it. Infinite benefit as town.

What you actually did though, knowing that I was roleblocked, is to detract from that claim saying you don't believe I am a cop either because you're a godfather and wouldn't show as same, or because you roleblocked me. Who knows whether I'm still lying about being roleblocked and I actually did get a check off

I'm quite sure you did out yourself though.


I never confirmed you were blocked tho or where did I say that?


Reading between the lines is enough.


You wouldn't go after me when you have been calling me mafia forever?????

And do you want me to believe that you are a cop when you wanted to quit the game?



Did I actually quit the game? No.

Was it enough of a cover to stop mafia killing me during the nights and get my checks off? Yes.

Am I playing? Yes.

Have I been playing the game? Yes.

Did I evaluate candidates to eliminate yesterday and then pick Rels, who was my cop check so I could get definitive information on my checks' alignments? Yes.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 07 2022 15:03 GMT
#2082
I will announce my actual checks at 1 minute before the end of night.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 07 2022 15:51 GMT
#2088
On September 08 2022 00:32 CopCake wrote:
And your super duper "cool" move is extremely flawed. What happens if town vigilante vigs me? if there is one?

Did you consider there I could be an unaware miller if you had a cop check that came like that?

No, it is actually problematic and I could die. You know, the less people the better for mafia.

But of course, I am the one who is "closed minded" and didn't consider scenarios.


If they vig you and you're an unaware miller than I confirm myself as town. Slim chance that scenario plays out anyway.

Also why I retracted to a rb into announcing it finally at the end of night.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 07 2022 16:08 GMT
#2091
Mafia killed Dandel so lol I have no idea what to believe
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