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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 22:42 GMT
#1181
Although I'm very suspicious of HF but I mean that's everygame until like D4.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 02 2022 22:42 GMT
#1182
On September 03 2022 07:38 Tubesock wrote:
I don't think I understand what you're even really asking.

1) I vote Rels
1.5)MZ is a wagon
2)Slam starts Shenannies and goes to Decon
3)I go Decon

At that point if the shenany wagon decided to go to MZ I don't think I would have. I would have gone back to Rels. For whatever reason I think MZ is mafia still at the beginning of night. I reread and think more and then I understand that mafia just wouldn't gain anything by defending my switch.

I don't know or care about what you would do "in case". As it doesn't really matter.
What i do know is that you had Rels and MZ as top mafia D1 and deconduo was not a scumread of yours at that point.
Then you vote for deconduo OVER your scumreads Rels and MZ.
The only explanation for this you give is based on AFTER you placed your vote on deconduo.

I dont buy it.
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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 22:43 GMT
#1183
That's fair.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 02 2022 22:51 GMT
#1184
On September 03 2022 07:42 Tubesock wrote:
Although I'm very suspicious of HF but I mean that's everygame until like D4.

Why are you suspicious of HF?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 02 2022 22:54 GMT
#1185
On September 03 2022 07:41 Tubesock wrote:
You want to know what's even worse??? I don't think Rels or Vivax are mafia anymore.
I have ZERO scumreads at the moment.

What are your thoughts on Dandel, Jock, or copcake

I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 02 2022 22:56 GMT
#1186
I think you should answer MZ first Tube.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 02 2022 22:57 GMT
#1187
On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read.

What does this mean?
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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 23:01 GMT
#1188
On September 03 2022 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 07:42 Tubesock wrote:
Although I'm very suspicious of HF but I mean that's everygame until like D4.

Why are you suspicious of HF?


Respect. I said everygame.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 02 2022 23:02 GMT
#1189
On September 03 2022 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read.

What does this mean?

After my post on dandel and vivax I started looking at tube and Matt but as I've been reading and writing your conversation has been going on with tube and I'm kinda just waiting to see how your back and forth plays out to see if it changes how I view tube.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 02 2022 23:03 GMT
#1190
On September 03 2022 08:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read.

What does this mean?

After my post on dandel and vivax I started looking at tube and Matt but as I've been reading and writing your conversation has been going on with tube and I'm kinda just waiting to see how your back and forth plays out to see if it changes how I view tube.

I am curious how do you view Tube atm?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 02 2022 23:06 GMT
#1191
On September 03 2022 08:01 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 07:42 Tubesock wrote:
Although I'm very suspicious of HF but I mean that's everygame until like D4.

Why are you suspicious of HF?


Respect. I said everygame.

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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 02 2022 23:10 GMT
#1192
On September 03 2022 08:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 08:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On September 03 2022 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read.

What does this mean?

After my post on dandel and vivax I started looking at tube and Matt but as I've been reading and writing your conversation has been going on with tube and I'm kinda just waiting to see how your back and forth plays out to see if it changes how I view tube.

I am curious how do you view Tube atm?

So honestly, at EOD D1 I had him as lean town bc I had a hard time seeing scum flip flop his vote like that. Mostly because if rels flips scum then it all but confirms tube is scum, and if rels is town there's no reason for him to get involved in the lynch between myself, decon, and rels.

But you and HF are two of my stronger town reads and you're pushing tube so I'm trying to look at it from all angles and see if I'm missing something.

I actually think there's a fair chance everyone voting tube rn is town, except maybe for chez.

Meanwhile most of my scum reads are on rels, and tube is there too. So yeah I'm just working through this now before I make up my mind one way or another.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 23:12 GMT
#1193
On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 07:41 Tubesock wrote:
You want to know what's even worse??? I don't think Rels or Vivax are mafia anymore.
I have ZERO scumreads at the moment.

What are your thoughts on Dandel, Jock, or copcake

I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read.


Dand- I agree with most of what he says. His Rels post I thought aligned well to my thinking. Rels really looked like he was performing. And continued to do so. I for some reason liked how he asked you if you shake your fist at people. Kinda dumb but I gave you both some town points. Granted you had less for being so serious against Decon.

Jock- I think he's pretty solid town. I like that he kept looking at other things for the overall picture not just only his lynch. Unlike Decon. Decon would be overhelming town if he was lynch Rels but also doing more investigating. I think Jock is looking deeper than a normal scum would.

Copcake- Feeling she's town. Don't agree with her case on you, but I believe she believes it. I've written many cases like that and have been ignored compeltely too.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 02 2022 23:17 GMT
#1194
On September 03 2022 08:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 08:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 08:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On September 03 2022 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read.

What does this mean?

After my post on dandel and vivax I started looking at tube and Matt but as I've been reading and writing your conversation has been going on with tube and I'm kinda just waiting to see how your back and forth plays out to see if it changes how I view tube.

I am curious how do you view Tube atm?

So honestly, at EOD D1 I had him as lean town bc I had a hard time seeing scum flip flop his vote like that. Mostly because if rels flips scum then it all but confirms tube is scum, and if rels is town there's no reason for him to get involved in the lynch between myself, decon, and rels.

But you and HF are two of my stronger town reads and you're pushing tube so I'm trying to look at it from all angles and see if I'm missing something.

I actually think there's a fair chance everyone voting tube rn is town, except maybe for chez.

Meanwhile most of my scum reads are on rels, and tube is there too. So yeah I'm just working through this now before I make up my mind one way or another.

I have a question about this. Why do you... think like this? I don't get it.
My thingy thing in mafia is to find one mafia, then work who that mafia can be mafiabuddies with.
I have never understood why people play mafia like that, if this then that. But if not this then you're always at the starting point again, like groundhog D1 again and again if you happen to be wrong.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 02 2022 23:27 GMT
#1195
On September 03 2022 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 08:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On September 03 2022 08:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 08:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On September 03 2022 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read.

What does this mean?

After my post on dandel and vivax I started looking at tube and Matt but as I've been reading and writing your conversation has been going on with tube and I'm kinda just waiting to see how your back and forth plays out to see if it changes how I view tube.

I am curious how do you view Tube atm?

So honestly, at EOD D1 I had him as lean town bc I had a hard time seeing scum flip flop his vote like that. Mostly because if rels flips scum then it all but confirms tube is scum, and if rels is town there's no reason for him to get involved in the lynch between myself, decon, and rels.

But you and HF are two of my stronger town reads and you're pushing tube so I'm trying to look at it from all angles and see if I'm missing something.

I actually think there's a fair chance everyone voting tube rn is town, except maybe for chez.

Meanwhile most of my scum reads are on rels, and tube is there too. So yeah I'm just working through this now before I make up my mind one way or another.

I have a question about this. Why do you... think like this? I don't get it.
My thingy thing in mafia is to find one mafia, then work who that mafia can be mafiabuddies with.
I have never understood why people play mafia like that, if this then that. But if not this then you're always at the starting point again, like groundhog D1 again and again if you happen to be wrong.

I look at it based on: what is accomplished by tube's vote. Tube removed the hammer from Rels and put it onto me. Rels then voted Dec and that was the lynch. If Rels is scum and tube is scum, that's a super dumb switch to make bc tube now gets alllll the suspicion for how that vote went down if rels ever flips If rels is town and tube is scum, why get involved in the first place, let the lynch on rels happen.

I just don't see how tube is scum based on EOD.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 02 2022 23:31 GMT
#1196
On September 03 2022 08:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 08:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On September 03 2022 08:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 08:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On September 03 2022 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 03 2022 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read.

What does this mean?

After my post on dandel and vivax I started looking at tube and Matt but as I've been reading and writing your conversation has been going on with tube and I'm kinda just waiting to see how your back and forth plays out to see if it changes how I view tube.

I am curious how do you view Tube atm?

So honestly, at EOD D1 I had him as lean town bc I had a hard time seeing scum flip flop his vote like that. Mostly because if rels flips scum then it all but confirms tube is scum, and if rels is town there's no reason for him to get involved in the lynch between myself, decon, and rels.

But you and HF are two of my stronger town reads and you're pushing tube so I'm trying to look at it from all angles and see if I'm missing something.

I actually think there's a fair chance everyone voting tube rn is town, except maybe for chez.

Meanwhile most of my scum reads are on rels, and tube is there too. So yeah I'm just working through this now before I make up my mind one way or another.

I have a question about this. Why do you... think like this? I don't get it.
My thingy thing in mafia is to find one mafia, then work who that mafia can be mafiabuddies with.
I have never understood why people play mafia like that, if this then that. But if not this then you're always at the starting point again, like groundhog D1 again and again if you happen to be wrong.

I look at it based on: what is accomplished by tube's vote. Tube removed the hammer from Rels and put it onto me. Rels then voted Dec and that was the lynch. If Rels is scum and tube is scum, that's a super dumb switch to make bc tube now gets alllll the suspicion for how that vote went down if rels ever flips If rels is town and tube is scum, why get involved in the first place, let the lynch on rels happen.

I just don't see how tube is scum based on EOD.

Tube never voted for you?
If you are town and Rels is mafia why is that a bad switch again?
If you are town and Rels is town why is that a bad switch again?
Except that Tube should vote for you or Rels in his mind....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 02 2022 23:32 GMT
#1197
If rels is scum and tube is scum then i think tube just saved mafia from being lynched.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 02 2022 23:33 GMT
#1198
On September 03 2022 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If rels is scum and tube is scum then i think tube just saved mafia from being lynched.

and noone is giving any fucks about it aside from me and HF.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 02 2022 23:35 GMT
#1199
On September 03 2022 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a not-so-side-note, here is some food for thought:

How does anyone not voting for Tubesock justify voting for anyone else.

- Tubesock had Rels and MZ as top mafia D1 (deconduo is not a scumread)
- There was a time (near EoD) when Koshi, Dandel, rayn -- all of Tube's townreads are voting for Rels
- Without any contribution towards anything, he chooses to vote for deconduo over EITHER Rels or MZ when those are the wagons to choose from
- Tubesock has apparently no intention to clarify his voting behaviour at all

How is Tubesock not mafia over ANYONE else in the game? Don't be fucking stupid now people, this is like 100% mafia behaviour 100% of the time.

again how is this guy town ??????????????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 02 2022 23:36 GMT
#1200
On September 03 2022 08:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If rels is scum and tube is scum then i think tube just saved mafia from being lynched.

and noone is giving any fucks about it aside from me and HF.

dude you need to help me out here, it's getting annoying all over again.. :/
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