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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22138 Posts
September 10 2022 19:29 GMT
#2761
Heading out to real world, kinda predictable kill?

On September 11 2022 03:43 Holyflare wrote:
You son of a bitch

##vote raynpelikoneet


wow, HF with a villain suit. Embrace the catharsis
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22138 Posts
September 10 2022 22:52 GMT
#2762
On September 11 2022 04:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2022 04:12 Alakaslam wrote:
HF there is a world where others carried shots and you are mafia.

The simplest explanation is really that neither of us is mafia.


Had to think on that for a while didn’t you?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9855 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-10 23:56:45
September 10 2022 23:56 GMT
#2763
Day Five Vote Count

Raynpelikoneet (1): Holyflare, Alakaslam

Not Voting (5): Chezinu, Vivax, Alakaslam, Mattchew, Raynpelikoneet

With 1 vote, Raynpelikoneet is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Monday, Sep 12 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 11 2022 02:33 GMT
#2764
The fact that HF is pushing rayn is the biggest thing implicating HF right now.

I am so wtf on that.

Rayn is basically clear by mechanics, might not be but here is the thing,

If rayn was the scum I would see him doing what HF is doing not the other way around. The scum wants the most townread player dead first, so they can stand among weak ass mislynch target townies. They only need two more, after all. If we mislynch, we only get one more shot.

I would expect scum to vote right away on the toughest ML target possible.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22138 Posts
September 11 2022 02:51 GMT
#2765
It would be interesting if rayn and cop were mafia together in a game. Because the likelihood that they'd believe it to be too obvious to try extraordinarily hard would be fairly high.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22138 Posts
September 11 2022 02:54 GMT
#2766
And I believe that rayn has put enough effort in that it could be categorized as extraordinarily high. High enough that he didn't believe he'd be caught off rayn-cop interactions. Very impressive factoid when they're living together.

At the very least, one could deduce that rayn is an honourable player. At most, but not that far because he's quite obvious, rayn is town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22138 Posts
September 11 2022 02:58 GMT
#2767
##Vote: Holyflare

Good ol' scum or bad or lacks faith in people

All equally bad
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 11 2022 07:47 GMT
#2768
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2022 13:20 GMT
#2769
On September 11 2022 11:33 Alakaslam wrote:
The fact that HF is pushing rayn is the biggest thing implicating HF right now.

I am so wtf on that.

Rayn is basically clear by mechanics, might not be but here is the thing,

If rayn was the scum I would see him doing what HF is doing not the other way around. The scum wants the most townread player dead first, so they can stand among weak ass mislynch target townies. They only need two more, after all. If we mislynch, we only get one more shot.

I would expect scum to vote right away on the toughest ML target possible.


How is he clear by mechanics?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2022 13:21 GMT
#2770
In fact, the reasoning I gave that you said was "pretty damning" has suddenly now become the thing that implicates me as mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2022 13:23 GMT
#2771
On September 11 2022 11:58 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Holyflare

Good ol' scum or bad or lacks faith in people

All equally bad


If you want to play in a way that doesn't interact with arguments and skirts around meaningful interaction about valid points and diminish them to "that's just bad faith" instead of providing why, or delving into Rayn's mindset at the time then that's your prerogative.

Calling you bad for it is mine.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2022 13:25 GMT
#2772
You'll need to explain why mafia rels was scared of mafia Holyflare and why mafia copcake TMId me as town about 3 times though.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22138 Posts
September 11 2022 13:44 GMT
#2773
On September 11 2022 22:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2022 11:58 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Holyflare

Good ol' scum or bad or lacks faith in people

All equally bad


If you want to play in a way that doesn't interact with arguments and skirts around meaningful interaction about valid points and diminish them to "that's just bad faith" instead of providing why, or delving into Rayn's mindset at the time then that's your prerogative.

Calling you bad for it is mine.


Right

The question is...Are you even scum? Why should rayn be?
Got to reread Slam and Chez, and wonder why it's not matt who was the NK. That doesn't seem like your signature
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22138 Posts
September 11 2022 13:45 GMT
#2774
We should avoid a Slam/Chez/X situation
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2022 14:08 GMT
#2775
On September 11 2022 22:44 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2022 22:23 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2022 11:58 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Holyflare

Good ol' scum or bad or lacks faith in people

All equally bad


If you want to play in a way that doesn't interact with arguments and skirts around meaningful interaction about valid points and diminish them to "that's just bad faith" instead of providing why, or delving into Rayn's mindset at the time then that's your prerogative.

Calling you bad for it is mine.


Right

The question is...Are you even scum? Why should rayn be?
Got to reread Slam and Chez, and wonder why it's not matt who was the NK. That doesn't seem like your signature


Yes, that's the question and that's what I set out to answer.... With reasoning.

Please interact with the reasoning.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2022 14:15 GMT
#2776
In a town Rayn situation:

Mafia NK was saved. Mafia shot is on Rayn. Nobody has any reason to doubt Mattchew saving Rayn. Will investigate responses. First thing that springs into mind is Slam correcting me about Mattchew's posts. Very possible it's slam here.

Mafia NK was Rayn and was blocked OR mafia NK was me and was saved (before Mattchew revealed).

Mafia knows there's a jailkeeper or doctor in the game. Since I claimed blue that was roleblocked, mafia assume that's what happened (although still very likely they just have a rber anyway) and that there is a JKer. Rayn fits this scenario because he spent the whole beginning of the day saying I'm mafia for knowing I was RBd BUT he wouldn't wait for Mattchew to reveal whether he was doctor or JKer to determine whether his case was actually correct. When Mattchew revealed his doctor (important) was on Rayn, instead of backing down completely Rayn STILL believed his case on me had merit. THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE IF HE KNOWS IT CAN'T HAVE BEEN HIM THAT WAS SAVED BY A DOCTOR. Thus, it's extremely probable Rayn knew a JKer was in play and tried to preempt Mattchew saying he RBed me and fucked up.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9855 Posts
September 11 2022 14:21 GMT
#2777
Day Five Vote Count

Raynpelikoneet (1): Holyflare, Alakaslam
Holyflare (1): Vivax

Not Voting (4): Chezinu, Alakaslam, Mattchew, Raynpelikoneet

With 1 vote, Raynpelikoneet is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Monday, Sep 12 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22138 Posts
September 11 2022 14:47 GMT
#2778
On September 11 2022 23:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2022 22:44 Vivax wrote:
On September 11 2022 22:23 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2022 11:58 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Holyflare

Good ol' scum or bad or lacks faith in people

All equally bad


If you want to play in a way that doesn't interact with arguments and skirts around meaningful interaction about valid points and diminish them to "that's just bad faith" instead of providing why, or delving into Rayn's mindset at the time then that's your prerogative.

Calling you bad for it is mine.


Right

The question is...Are you even scum? Why should rayn be?
Got to reread Slam and Chez, and wonder why it's not matt who was the NK. That doesn't seem like your signature


Yes, that's the question and that's what I set out to answer.... With reasoning.

Please interact with the reasoning.


Your reasoning looks like you’re don’t believe matts claims?
Like literally, why do you want to lynch rayn with that post? His scum game is much more spammy, reactive and less voluminous. The food poisoning meta.

Had a night out and feel like 80 today. Also feel like I‘m in that Memento movie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 11 2022 15:15 GMT
#2779
Where does it say I don't believe his claim?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 11 2022 15:17 GMT
#2780
Holyflare i have a question to you, if you were mafia would you deliver night kills in this game and why?
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