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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 07 2022 15:03 GMT
#2081
On September 07 2022 23:51 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2022 23:49 Holyflare wrote:
Why would I go straight after any of you when I didn't know any of your alignments???

On September 07 2022 23:48 CopCake wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:46 Holyflare wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:44 Holyflare wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:41 CopCake wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:40 Holyflare wrote:
You think we're in a game with no blues? :D

If I'm alive and just roleblocked then so be it. I don't like that your first instinct is to just blindly say I'm mafia for it though, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.


Of course it makes sense because I am town, what do you want me to believe when you say that rels and me are "same" when it is not true?

And I know there are blues, I am not an idiot.

Are you trying to fish?


I was trying to bait someone into saying they didn't believe my check because they knew I was actually roleblocked.

Since I've said I was roleblocked your continued "He is mafia" stance is just sticking out as really stale.

There's also potential unaware millers in this game but you didn't really weigh that up, you just went on a massive defensive.


The last sentence is particularly why I think you've probably outed yourself as mafia. It's a perspective slip. I have no reason to lie about my check as town (eg, Vivax's reaction of semi-belief). If you are town, your first instinct should be to realise that I could actually have that check and that you might be an unaware miller. What other reason do I have to simply out myself on a night phase with that kind of information? There is none, simply no benefit as mafia to do it. Infinite benefit as town.

What you actually did though, knowing that I was roleblocked, is to detract from that claim saying you don't believe I am a cop either because you're a godfather and wouldn't show as same, or because you roleblocked me. Who knows whether I'm still lying about being roleblocked and I actually did get a check off

I'm quite sure you did out yourself though.


I never confirmed you were blocked tho or where did I say that?


Reading between the lines is enough.


You wouldn't go after me when you have been calling me mafia forever?????

And do you want me to believe that you are a cop when you wanted to quit the game?



Did I actually quit the game? No.

Was it enough of a cover to stop mafia killing me during the nights and get my checks off? Yes.

Am I playing? Yes.

Have I been playing the game? Yes.

Did I evaluate candidates to eliminate yesterday and then pick Rels, who was my cop check so I could get definitive information on my checks' alignments? Yes.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 07 2022 15:03 GMT
#2082
I will announce my actual checks at 1 minute before the end of night.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22184 Posts
September 07 2022 15:07 GMT
#2083
On September 06 2022 03:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 03:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm gonna go get drunk and attempt some voodoo maybe
But jeez, how many fucking lies do I have to deal with in these games

WHO LIED


On September 06 2022 03:40 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 03:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm gonna go get drunk and attempt some voodoo maybe
But jeez, how many fucking lies do I have to deal with in these games

QUIEN MENTIROSO


This is funny
I'm a mashed cerebrum today, won't be doing much except eating toastz and drinking orange juice

Would have to look back to HF coming back from apathy when I f-worded him, but why when it's auto-resolving?
Good plays if cop
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2022 15:10 GMT
#2084
On September 07 2022 23:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2022 23:44 Holyflare wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:41 CopCake wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:40 Holyflare wrote:
You think we're in a game with no blues? :D

If I'm alive and just roleblocked then so be it. I don't like that your first instinct is to just blindly say I'm mafia for it though, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.


Of course it makes sense because I am town, what do you want me to believe when you say that rels and me are "same" when it is not true?

And I know there are blues, I am not an idiot.

Are you trying to fish?


I was trying to bait someone into saying they didn't believe my check because they knew I was actually roleblocked.

Since I've said I was roleblocked your continued "He is mafia" stance is just sticking out as really stale.

There's also potential unaware millers in this game but you didn't really weigh that up, you just went on a massive defensive.


The last sentence is particularly why I think you've probably outed yourself as mafia. It's a perspective slip. I have no reason to lie about my check as town (eg, Vivax's reaction of semi-belief). If you are town, your first instinct should be to realise that I could actually have that check and that you might be an unaware miller. What other reason do I have to simply out myself on a night phase with that kind of information? There is none, simply no benefit as mafia to do it. Infinite benefit as town.

What you actually did though, knowing that I was roleblocked, is to detract from that claim saying you don't believe I am a cop either because you're a godfather and wouldn't show as same, or because you roleblocked me. Who knows whether I'm still lying about being roleblocked and I actually did get a check off

I'm quite sure you did out yourself though.

I think you're not being quite reasonable here.
table for two on a tv tray
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 07 2022 15:26 GMT
#2085
On September 08 2022 00:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2022 23:50 CopCake wrote:
On September 07 2022 23:38 CopCake wrote:
Then when he is alive "Oh no I got blocked (like he said before) and mafia kept me alive for a misslynch", yet he says "he has results"


Like I never confirmed anything there, I am just playing the scenario and your contradictions.





Show nested quote +
On September 07 2022 03:50 CopCake wrote:
On September 07 2022 03:33 Holyflare wrote:
Copcake and rels same.

Do with that information as you see fit. Gg.


You didnt even want to vote for rels, how does that even make sense? Lol


I did vote for Rels. I called him mafia and voted him. As mafia, you see this information and your statement isn't "Wow, maybe I'm an unaware miller!" or "I don't believe you" it's simply that I didn't even want to vote for Rels? Why does this make sense from a townie perspective of someone who is just being outed as red with no further explanation?

Show nested quote +
On September 07 2022 04:24 CopCake wrote:
This gives vibes of “I am the cop you idiot”.

We lynch hin tomorrow.



I say that I'm roleblocked. Only mafia know whether that is true or not. As a townie there's no reason not to believe I was roleblocked. I wasn't up for contention of being a wagon, I wasn't under the spotlight, there wasn't really any threat in the game to do this. Being roleblocked was actually clearing for CopCake and should make a hell of a lot more sense as town who is being wrongly accused of being mafia.

You know why this reaction is the way it is? Because mafia didn't actually roleblock me, Cop knows that and knows I'm town. The only other explanation that makes sense for me to lie in this scenario is the exact one she presents "I'm a cop you idiot vibes", where I'm a townie faking that I'm cop.

Show nested quote +
On September 07 2022 04:32 CopCake wrote:
On September 07 2022 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
Lynch the unCCd parity that wasn't ever up for a wagon tomorrow and is likely to die tonight? Have you thought that one through? :D


How can mafia kill themselves?


She still believes I'm simply mafia that did a 0-1% beneficial play because she's simply in a world where she has to view my play as mafia indicative instead of reevaluating it.

Show nested quote +
On September 07 2022 23:38 CopCake wrote:
Then when he is alive "Oh no I got blocked (like he said before) and mafia kept me alive for a misslynch", yet he says "he has results"


There is no out here for me to simply be town. She has shut down every avenue and not evaluated this with a head that's looking to solve. It's simply all just mafia scenarios and narratives because it's what she has to do.


1.- But I don't believe you? And you were one of the last to vote for rels, you voted me first, your misslynch <3 and like I said, you wanted to quit the game.

2.- I don't know if you were role blocked or not, I never said that, I dare you to quote me where I did. I play scenarios where I can debunk your "I am the cop" because as town it is my job. You know I am VERY good with night actions, debunking you makes me mafia? How lovely.

3.- Reevaluate what? I think the mafia team is rels, you, mz so doubting you once again is a mafia tell? Yeah, yeah because being town apparently is to believe all the claims as they go.

4.- "I am the cop you idiot vibes" is because I was expecting someone else to CC you and see a shiftiest.

5.- Like I said, I think you are mafia so what should I do? Do I REALLY need to believe EVERYTHING you say to be town? Haha.

6.- I can also do plays
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2022 15:31 GMT
#2086
What's the point Cake it's gonna be most likely resolved tomorrow?
table for two on a tv tray
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 07 2022 15:32 GMT
#2087
And your super duper "cool" move is extremely flawed. What happens if town vigilante vigs me? if there is one?

Did you consider there I could be an unaware miller if you had a cop check that came like that?

No, it is actually problematic and I could die. You know, the less people the better for mafia.

But of course, I am the one who is "closed minded" and didn't consider scenarios.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 07 2022 15:51 GMT
#2088
On September 08 2022 00:32 CopCake wrote:
And your super duper "cool" move is extremely flawed. What happens if town vigilante vigs me? if there is one?

Did you consider there I could be an unaware miller if you had a cop check that came like that?

No, it is actually problematic and I could die. You know, the less people the better for mafia.

But of course, I am the one who is "closed minded" and didn't consider scenarios.


If they vig you and you're an unaware miller than I confirm myself as town. Slim chance that scenario plays out anyway.

Also why I retracted to a rb into announcing it finally at the end of night.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 07 2022 16:00 GMT
#2089
On September 08 2022 00:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2022 00:32 CopCake wrote:
And your super duper "cool" move is extremely flawed. What happens if town vigilante vigs me? if there is one?

Did you consider there I could be an unaware miller if you had a cop check that came like that?

No, it is actually problematic and I could die. You know, the less people the better for mafia.

But of course, I am the one who is "closed minded" and didn't consider scenarios.


If they vig you and you're an unaware miller than I confirm myself as town. Slim chance that scenario plays out anyway.

Also why I retracted to a rb into announcing it finally at the end of night.


It doesn't, mafia knows who is town lol.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 07 2022 16:07 GMT
#2090
And also HF, do you want me to believe that mafia wouldn't kill you because you said "I want to quit"?

Like, even if you were Vanilla town mafia would target you because you are good solving the game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 07 2022 16:08 GMT
#2091
Mafia killed Dandel so lol I have no idea what to believe
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2022 16:17 GMT
#2092
On September 08 2022 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
Mafia killed Dandel so lol I have no idea what to believe

In hindsight probably that Rels read.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2022 17:10 GMT
#2093
We need to murder HF if he flips green. I assure you that!
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22184 Posts
September 07 2022 17:26 GMT
#2094
On September 08 2022 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We need to murder HF if he flips green. I assure you that!


Or have the UK become Frostpunk simulator
I think Italy used to be underwater once, looked that way from a picture I saw that showed the erosion in the north

Then there‘s a Brit nutso around these parts who hosts softgun battles who believes in aliens and divides history into prediluvian and antediluvian
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2022 17:32 GMT
#2095
On September 07 2022 14:17 Vivax wrote:
just. got home I‘m BAKED and ALIVE
and we lynched a SCUM
and FIRE and MAYHEM and wow Vovax

I think this is the best post of all time, at least this game.
I love you Vivax <3
table for two on a tv tray
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 07 2022 17:39 GMT
#2096
On September 07 2022 23:40 Holyflare wrote:
You think we're in a game with no blues? :D

If I'm alive and just roleblocked then so be it. I don't like that your first instinct is to just blindly say I'm mafia for it though, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

A useful article for why perfectly reasonable and even completely honest blue claims by HF tend to be overlooked.

This story is, of course, a metaphor for many various behaviours, which HF has exhibited a few of.

That being said, sometimes the advantages outweigh the drawbacks.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22184 Posts
September 07 2022 17:44 GMT
#2097
[image loading]


This is forum mafia?
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 07 2022 17:46 GMT
#2098
I'm not ready to write off HF just yet.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 07 2022 17:56 GMT
#2099
On September 08 2022 02:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm not ready to write off HF just yet.

Neither am I, for what it's worth
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 07 2022 17:57 GMT
#2100
If I die I think Matt and rayn are my strongest town reads. Jock being town threw me for a loop. Vivax is probably town too.

Scum has got to be one of CC or HF and one of slam or chez
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
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