[N]A Mostly Normal Game of Mafia - Page 17

On December 01 2020 23:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Apparently I need to step away from the thread.

Do what you will Rayn. Apparently I cannot interact with you without going on full tilt, so I will not interact with you any further.

On December 01 2020 21:08 Hapahauli wrote:


(1) I want to use my role. Period. It's town KP.

(2) It happened.



(3) It happened.

(4) The only "reason" that you and anyone else has to lynch me is for setup speculation and "because I wasn't shot."

There are many reasons I'd be alive. For example: Lest I remind the thread that I was gone celebrating the holidays with my family for 3-4 days and wasn't engaged in an entire day of play.

On December 01 2020 19:44 Tictock wrote:
How in the hell do you think I am mafia with Hapa after today?

Rayn/Hapa makes no sense either with Rayn literally not wanting to lynch anyone by Hapa all day.

On December 01 2020 00:37 Hapahauli wrote:
On TicTock:

The way that TicTock approaches his Vivax read is very scummy. I think it is scummy regardless of Vivax's alignment, but I think it is especially so if Vivax is mafia.

The first time that TicTock talks about Vivax is near the end of D1:


Clearly, he has some level of suspicion towards Vivax.



He immediately follows this up by "changing his mind" on the Vivax read after "reading the thread". What I find curious and scummy about this post is that despite calling Vivax town, he articulates in the same breath a fantastic reason for why Vivax may be mafia regarding Vivax's relative inactivity/passivity.

I will also note that there's no "substance" behind his Vivax read. Despite this, he continues attacking cases against vivax:




...he's happy to attack people's reads against Vivax, but again, no substance or rationale to believe that he's town beyond "these cases are bad".



He again re-iterates his read on being "confident" regarding Vivax.

But again, where is the substance? [uWhy does he read Vivax as mafia? The only serious reading of his filter (see post #2 above) suggests good reasons for Vivax being mafia. Otherwise, TT spends time attacking reasons for why Vivax is mafia rather than providing substance.

On December 01 2020 00:46 Hapahauli wrote:
On Rayn:

After reading through, I think he's very town.

The things that strike out to me are:
1) His willingnness to go down paranoid "rabbit holes" (reads on FF, Slam, etc.)
2) His de-escalation tactics this game, both in the very beginning of the game:



... and in around my botched roleblock thing:



I do not at all associate scum Rayn with keeping a discussion focused, especially in the 2nd example.

On November 26 2020 03:48 Hapahauli wrote:
To be clear, I do not trust Rayn enough for him to be Mayor.

His new playstyle has a plausible explanation. Don't get me wrong. But I have doubt, and I do not want any doubt about the town mayor. As for my doubt: I can understand how there is less "rage" in his game, and that is not an inherently mafia-oriented thing. But he is not pushing the game forward in the way I would expect him to as town. Rayn is hyper paranoid, stubborn, and a bit of a "steamroller" in his typical town games. His mafia games have some of those traits, but in my experience, they are more toned down.