[M][T] Aperture Mafia 4, Episode 2

On October 29 2020 11:07 iamperfection wrote:
here are my limited reads at this point


1.Iamperfection – confirmed town


2. Hapahauli – absolutely 3p consider killing late game if still alive. I don’t see him making a 3p claim the way he did as scum.

3. Grackaroni - almost as useless as onegu somehow. Null

4. Onegu – useless not reading the thread as I made a joke about him and he didn’t respond can shoot

5. Dirkzor – slightly townish for reasons he was a bit brash early making think town but not a super strong read

6. Acrofales – his posts always scare me but I think he might be town this time- a very weak town read as he somewhat looks like rayn trying to figure things out.

7. ShoCkeyy – I don’t know very confusing. The needing to post to say he was busy but to stick around with small heat was scummy null to slightly scumish

8. Alakaslam - the scum haven’t posted comment struck me as weird but most of his posts I find strange

9. Tictock – vig

10. Koshi – vig.

11. Raynpelikoneet – town large activity, trying to figure things out

12. Yamato77- scumish – hasn’t contributed in a meaningful way. The anger seemed real but I think that could come from either alignment so it doesn’t get him any town points

On October 29 2020 13:40 yamato77 wrote:
If I had a gun I would shoot Shockey. His posts read as smug and flippant and that's a general scumtell in my book. I no longer really want to send him because he refuses to be more open about much of anything.

On October 30 2020 01:43 iamperfection wrote:

Talk about something useful or die

On October 30 2020 04:37 ShoCkeyy wrote:


It's n0 and I'm usually the same, but we already had a full day nah mean. So are you saying you won't really partake until D2? If true, then that means you'll do nothing for what will be almost 4 full days, not very town.

On October 30 2020 04:59 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Interesting that both Dirk and Onegu decided to claim I'm mafia at the same time : )

Also it seems like Grack and I are never around at the same time which is why there's never discussion between us. I have a slight scum read on grack, but that doesn't mean I need to claim he's mafia. I don't know who the fuck is mafia just yet which is why he's also a null. Like I personally don't think there's a problem having some one on null/mafia lean in a list.

On October 30 2020 05:05 Dirkzor wrote:
I noticed Onegu jumping on my scumread too. Seems to easy. But you asked me shockey.

iamp: I've tried to be as open as possible. Ask and i will answer to the best of my ability.

On October 30 2020 05:25 Dirkzor wrote:


Why dont you care about grack? even if he havent said anything about you, caring about him figuring out his alignment is important yes?

Also i agree that 2 people posting at the same time would be weird as scum. But you jumping on my (and others) scum read is not...

On October 30 2020 05:25 Dirkzor wrote:


Why dont you care about grack? even if he havent said anything about you, caring about him figuring out his alignment is important yes?

Also i agree that 2 people posting at the same time would be weird as scum. But you jumping on my (and others) scum read is not...

On October 30 2020 05:42 iamperfection wrote:
playing like a jester onegu

On October 30 2020 10:52 iamperfection wrote:
maybe everyone is 3p except me

On October 30 2020 10:53 iamperfection wrote:
the named VT part seems strange too im pretty sure you always have a name in greymist games?

On October 30 2020 11:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:


Yea but then you mentioned “for now”. This item that you gain turns you into a different role I’m assuming. Is it for 3p or would it still be a town victory?

On October 30 2020 11:22 ShoCkeyy wrote:


Well I derived for now from this post and another where you say “currently”.

On October 30 2020 12:17 Alakaslam wrote:
And no that was a typo I don’t loli

On October 30 2020 15:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:


This has been discussed hehe. I thought you were going in already.

On October 30 2020 15:35 yamato77 wrote:
Onegu you should read the damn thread.

On November 01 2020 06:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Iamperfection - Active thread presence/general townie vibes. Tried to clear me twice now so that's always a plus.

Yamato I think Yamato comes off pretty well so far. His frustration with Rayn brushing off his ShoCkkey posts because Rayn knows better seems genuine and I like the way he's pushing his reads.

Rayn Rayn has at least seemed confident in his read on ShoCkkey and seems to be in the process of writing some people off as town, which to me is a good sign for him as opposed to him just burying someone. I don't think he's cleared himself by any means but it doesn't seem like he's pushing a scum agenda at the moment.

ShoCkkey - I'm wavering a lot on this one. His list post was pretty atrocious and it was pretty much the only thing he posted that had anything to do with people's alignments. He gives a read on Dirkzor without even reading his claim, and what's the point of writing out a list if you don't have much to say to begin with.

We don't really have enough information to know what happened with the kill. It's possible ShoCkkey just bussed himself with Iamp to avoid checks and freaked out when it was visible from the actions that he did that so he started ranting about catching Acro with his pants down.

Hapahauli - He pinged the right posts if Acrofales is mafia. I think his filter is pretty lackluster compared to his norm. I don't see any reason for lynching him today and it seems like nobody else does either.

Dirkzor. I think his claim points heavily towards being 3rd party and he's been fixated on getting rid of me for not trying hard enough to lynch him during day 0. I could definitely try harder.

Acrofales I think the case he made on ShoCkkey was really bad. It was a huge reach to take that ShoCkkey called himself an analytical player and use that to say that he was too confident in having a town read on the player that everyone in the thread was town reading. I was also considering sending only Iamp as a potentially good option at one point, but I don't think I ended up saying it.

I think he dropped off quite a bit from the start of the game and he is guilty of playing thread cop like Hapa said. I did like his response though to why he was writing me off earlier.



I'm not nearly as confident as other people in the Acro lynch (it seems like he's close to universally scum read) but I don't think it's a bad lynch at the moment.

Onegu - playing anti-town and proud of it. Chose to go to the database without consulting people because Onegu won't be told what to do. Could easily be either alignment, but he's earned the red name all the same.

On November 02 2020 16:59 Dirkzor wrote:
wtf is going on with you people. Now i remember why i stopped playing. Most aren't even trying to play. they just fool around thinking that its their time only that they use.

My my sake we can lynch Yamato, onegu, TT, slam and onegu just for being useless/lazy/not even trying. I don't even care if they are town anymore.

Can you use actually sentences yamato? you're supposed to be the writer. write what the fuck you mean.

On November 02 2020 20:51 Koshi wrote:

Tell me why you need to know and I will look it up for you.

On November 02 2020 21:25 Koshi wrote:
So. TTTTT shot by guy who found gun. RIP my townie friend.

On November 02 2020 23:36 iamperfection wrote:

so you did no action last night correct ?

On November 02 2020 23:38 iamperfection wrote:

and i mean no action not just visiting the database

On November 02 2020 23:40 Koshi wrote:

So I have 2 cats and you wont believe this but the other one also died and due to not being able to play with the first; the second didn't make it easier so I while I send in the RB for Hapa I accidently made Yamato a rabbit.

On November 02 2020 23:44 iamperfection wrote:

im saying you do not have my permission to role hunt.

On November 02 2020 23:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Bad joke. Would lynch for bad joke.

On November 02 2020 23:58 iamperfection wrote:

why you want to retract a previous statement.

On November 03 2020 00:49 yamato77 wrote:

-eats carrot-

On November 03 2020 02:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Honestly, the more I read TT's filter, the more I reallllly regret shooting him.

On November 03 2020 23:08 Dirkzor wrote:
I don't really care who is voted Mayor (unless that some 3p win con, now that i think about it). I care who we lynch and the person voted mayor will do what town wants.

My scum reads are still Onegu, Grack and Slam (prolly in that order)


Onegus claim just doesnt add up. And besides his claim i don't see any effort. His claim is this + Show Spoiler +btw. Why, not just post everything (including name), if he gives the info to easily find the role anyway? Its just sooo... "I'm town because i claim a role previous held by a town, i wont tell you what role since im afraid of scum, but you can find it right here."

On November 03 2020 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Onegu, why is TT town?

On November 04 2020 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know he is not mafia most of the time but i still want to do that for the dumb post where he said Onegu is town which was like 100% my post and he made it look like it was his own.

On November 04 2020 01:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
because if TT is mafia there is not 100% mafia in our thread. So why is TT town?

On November 04 2020 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
let's kill onegu.

On November 04 2020 01:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

who the fuck cares?

On November 04 2020 02:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think Onegu has had a single scumread all game.

On October 30 2020 04:52 Onegu wrote:



Def not what I said. Like we have played together enough even though it is most likely less than everyone else in this game that you should not be that alarmed at my play and like I asked for my item not saying I am going to kill people for it.

If I had a gun I would kill Koshi. If I had 2 guns I would kill you also.

There you go fools my first read, this guy might be mafia.

On October 30 2020 05:10 Onegu wrote:





The first part of this is laughably bad. When 2 people call you scum doesnt even matter. Do you think we are both scum and said in our QT hey lets say shockeyy is scum in 10. 9. 8. 7. 6. 5. 4. 3. 2. 1. The second part I have no idea about. Dont care about grack as I havent seen him say anything about me...

On November 04 2020 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Which one of the two might have been mafia?

On November 04 2020 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont care, aside from what i think a vet calling a vigi on himself has to be mafia.
Period.
Or a fucking fucktard.

On November 04 2020 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:

If you think as veteran your best play is to call a shot on you and play like you did it makes you even more mafia.

Maybe you're just onegu and shit but everyone tells me to play for the easiest answer and this is it. You're mafia because you need top get shot and you play like you are never gonna get shot ever in the world.

On November 04 2020 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you can make a no-lynch?

On November 04 2020 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
how is no-lynch pro-town?

On November 04 2020 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:

you eat a vigi shot (as you wanted to), to have a no lynch and a no-NK (so a wasted cycle).
how is that pro town? if you are town.

On November 04 2020 05:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why did you want to eat a vigi shot instead of mafia shot? you know like playing like normally

On November 04 2020 05:23 iamperfection wrote:

your full claim seems to be lacking a lot of details.

On November 04 2020 05:37 Koshi wrote:
Pretty sure mafia will start killing townies the longer the games takes and destabilation goes up. That's why Onegu is just mafia or not thinking.

On November 04 2020 06:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:


What? as town you'd want to embrace peace. I'm curious why Acro was so upset by you and I switching as I think about it more.

On November 04 2020 07:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:


Only one claim of rb per night has happened, and I doubt that town would have it unless mafia is actually stupid strong. But i just don't think town does have a rb, because I got rb second night, but that's it, one claim of rb per night can only mean there's only one roleblocker.

On November 04 2020 08:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:


Did you read into the last few pages?

On November 04 2020 11:21 iamperfection wrote:

onegu how would that even verify you. it would just verify your role.

On November 04 2020 13:26 iamperfection wrote:

so you would be dead and flipped ?

On November 04 2020 13:35 iamperfection wrote:

and that cant be a mafia role why ?

On November 04 2020 15:40 Alakaslam wrote:
I am mot told what they are. I also can visit without messing with the corruption counter but considering watchers and the like, I decided not to N0 and then it became clear that doing so was not gonna be worth it period.

Having outed the role though, I should probably start. I can act as an info cop of sorts until I am

Offed? Koshi reminds me nobody has died. Why all the drama then?