On October 27 2020 07:51 GreYMisT wrote: Thats everyone! The game will begin Wednesday, Oct 28 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
The time is weird because I'm on paternity leave
What
What is that? How do you get it? My daughter will be born jn a couple weeks
My firm has an incredible policy that they offer, very fortunate there.
My son will be 3 weeks on Wednesday.
K so there’s a bunch of girls being born amongst my live friends in Los Angeles. So we can matchmake the future rn right
As for paternity leave yes indeed. Very much so! I am busy trying to become an entrepreneur; I get 80 hour work weeks with a day off
As for playing the best race, it will come naturally. My father also found it most comfortable to go with quantity over quality so; it may be inherited. Not to mention the viviparous nature of our producing these small new humans, Zerg is just in line with what this mafia community is doing.
On October 27 2020 16:33 GreYMisT wrote: I’m in the minority - in the United States and I get 16 weeks paid paternity. This is just an employer policy though, not federally or state backed.
Means you have an employer who gets it; there comes a point if you’re half decent when you realize trying to achieve plutocracy has no real point and therefore you can make sensible benefits available in your company- making it more attractive to qualified people and a stabler entity in the long run.
On October 27 2020 16:33 GreYMisT wrote: I’m in the minority - in the United States and I get 16 weeks paid paternity. This is just an employer policy though, not federally or state backed.
Means you have an employer who gets it; there comes a point if you’re half decent when you realize trying to achieve plutocracy has no real point and therefore you can make sensible benefits available in your company- making it more attractive to qualified people and a stabler entity in the long run.
At least I hope I am right about that.
That’s the reason my firm has this policy. they can frankly afford the leave and it’s one of the main reasons I joined. Shows they care.
Who knew this was going to basically be “new child mafia”?
My question is, if we go planning who to send to the database- doesn’t that allow 3p or scum or whatever to prevent it if their goal is to increase corruption? I think that is part of the mechanic, that people have that extra personal decision every night.
On October 28 2020 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: so basically top 3 scummers +1 towniest person. it's also good that people need to give an opinion on that, aka force even mafia to give reads
I mean, perfect world yes but do you really expect scum ti cooperate with us? Because I don’t.
On October 28 2020 23:07 Alakaslam wrote: My question is, if we go planning who to send to the database- doesn’t that allow 3p or scum or whatever to prevent it if their goal is to increase corruption? I think that is part of the mechanic, that people have that extra personal decision every night.
If we decide to send X number of people, and that we let's say vote for who goes, there is no way mafia can "hold off" from going without consequenses (or like we know a pool where a liar is).
If they decide to add up someone to increase the level (this first time -- i am not talking about future phases), then it's again more info for the town, like you know someone is lying and if we sent "3 scum" then we can be sure not all of those three are mafia.
People can just claim RB’d though? I’m not seeing how we can enforce this.
On October 28 2020 23:15 Dirkzor wrote: We can make a resistance game out of it. Someone nominates a 3p team and the rest vote if it goes or not.. Majority rules. Sounds fun!
Fair enough maybe this is the goal? To combine resistance with mafia
On October 28 2020 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: so basically top 3 scummers +1 towniest person. it's also good that people need to give an opinion on that, aka force even mafia to give reads
I mean, perfect world yes but do you really expect scum ti cooperate with us? Because I don’t.
Do you agree with the conclusion that drikzor is more likely town?
On October 28 2020 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: i think it is possible that iamp is mafia.
Not possible
Okay.
Do you think Dirkzor basically opens with the most anti-town thing you can ever do? I mean without discussing it with his teammates (i guess you can argue that me/Arcofales or both are his teammates)?
What are you saying he's being to brash to be mafia? I guess so maybe.
yes i dont think he'd do that without discussing it first with his teammates.
the intention of my first post was to get reaction from him mainly, because we just talked about the other game before the game started. I think it's actually best to full-claim with everyone at the start of the game (i also know that's not gonna happen because people dont believe in it), i havent lost an all-roled game where people actually did that, ever.
I kinda thought he was mafia when he didnt post at first, but then he came in with a really really anti-town suggestion about the corruption level (if you are town you know what i mean, townies mainly fear for unknown -- as they should). It's like, he would have to take a step back to wait for his teammates to answer my opening, but then he just goes with THAT of everything he could have said.
If you get what i mean.
Is it so anti town though? We literally don’t know what it does; finding out gives info. That’s how I took it.
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote: Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.
That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.
It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.
I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)
I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote: Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.
That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.
It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.
I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)
I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?
It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.
Well or the ultimate compliment; IE that I can’t read it.
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote: Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.
That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.
It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.
I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)
I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?
It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.
meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.
You agree that everyone posting is town?
Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote: Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.
That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.
It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.
I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)
I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?
It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.
meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.
You agree that everyone posting is town?
I agree that it's quite possible we're all town, and mafia hasn't posted, yes. I don't see how that can be wrong at this very second.
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote: Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.
That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.
It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.
I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)
I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?
It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.
meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.
You agree that everyone posting is town?
Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8
Who is mafia then?
Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote: Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.
That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.
It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.
I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)
I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?
It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.
meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.
You agree that everyone posting is town?
Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8
Who is mafia then?
Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?
And hapa duh dude lol.
i dont get it.
is someone mafia in your opinion or not?
ShoCkeyy is a likely candidate and Hapa is not town by his own claim
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote: Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.
That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.
It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.
I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)
I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?
It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.
meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.
You agree that everyone posting is town?
Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8
Who is mafia then?
Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote: Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.
That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.
It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.
I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)
I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?
On October 29 2020 02:17 Alakaslam wrote: In other words, I agree with Iamp. Scum hunt not mechanics discussion.
In these two posts, Slam establishes a preference for "scum hunting" rather than talking about the setup. This should mean that his posts should be geared to finding mafia, and his attitude should generally be positive towards any discussion geared toward finding mafia.
The problem is that his subsequent post is the opposite:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote: Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.
That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.
It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.
I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)
I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?
It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.
meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.
You agree that everyone posting is town?
Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8
Who is mafia then?
Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?
And hapa duh dude lol.
This post is completely mentally incongruent with his previous attitude. It is basically designed to shut down and brush off substantive discussion, particularly the "duh" portion of the post.
In his first post, he talks about scum hunting. In his next post, he is explicit that his scum-read on me should be so obvious that is not even worth discussion.
That does not sound town to me.
Had to step out by the time you posted the first instance of this, then caught up.
Hapa do you notice that the comment on ShoCkeyy is a reply to a very specific question by rayn regarding my post pointing out that I think non town have started playing?
If you read it in that light (the truth) you’ll see the error in your logic with this.
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote: Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.
That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.
It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.
I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)
I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?
On October 29 2020 02:17 Alakaslam wrote: In other words, I agree with Iamp. Scum hunt not mechanics discussion.
In these two posts, Slam establishes a preference for "scum hunting" rather than talking about the setup. This should mean that his posts should be geared to finding mafia, and his attitude should generally be positive towards any discussion geared toward finding mafia.
The problem is that his subsequent post is the opposite:
On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote: [quote] That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.
It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.
I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)
I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?
It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.
meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.
You agree that everyone posting is town?
Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8
Who is mafia then?
Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?
And hapa duh dude lol.
This post is completely mentally incongruent with his previous attitude. It is basically designed to shut down and brush off substantive discussion, particularly the "duh" portion of the post.
In his first post, he talks about scum hunting. In his next post, he is explicit that his scum-read on me should be so obvious that is not even worth discussion.
That does not sound town to me.
Had to step out by the time you posted the first instance of this, then caught up.
Hapa do you notice that the comment on ShoCkeyy is a reply to a very specific question by rayn regarding my post pointing out that I think non town have started playing?
If you read it in that light (the truth) you’ll see the error in your logic with this.
Still catching up. Workday almost done
I'm not getting this.
It is true that earlier in the conversation, Rayn asked whether or not you felt non-town started playing. However, you didn't quote that post. You quoted Rayn's post that asked you "who is mafia?"
Do you think I'm mafia or not?
I believe your claim. You’re not town and it’s complicated but you may as well be town.
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote: Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.
That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.
It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.
I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)
I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?
On October 29 2020 02:17 Alakaslam wrote: In other words, I agree with Iamp. Scum hunt not mechanics discussion.
In these two posts, Slam establishes a preference for "scum hunting" rather than talking about the setup. This should mean that his posts should be geared to finding mafia, and his attitude should generally be positive towards any discussion geared toward finding mafia.
The problem is that his subsequent post is the opposite:
On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote: [quote]
meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.
You agree that everyone posting is town?
Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8
Who is mafia then?
Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?
And hapa duh dude lol.
This post is completely mentally incongruent with his previous attitude. It is basically designed to shut down and brush off substantive discussion, particularly the "duh" portion of the post.
In his first post, he talks about scum hunting. In his next post, he is explicit that his scum-read on me should be so obvious that is not even worth discussion.
That does not sound town to me.
Had to step out by the time you posted the first instance of this, then caught up.
Hapa do you notice that the comment on ShoCkeyy is a reply to a very specific question by rayn regarding my post pointing out that I think non town have started playing?
If you read it in that light (the truth) you’ll see the error in your logic with this.
Still catching up. Workday almost done
I'm not getting this.
It is true that earlier in the conversation, Rayn asked whether or not you felt non-town started playing. However, you didn't quote that post. You quoted Rayn's post that asked you "who is mafia?"
Do you think I'm mafia or not?
I believe your claim. You’re not town and it’s complicated but you may as well be town.
ShoCkeyy I scumread.
Why do you scumread me? What did I do to make you think I'm mafia yo...
Why do you feel the need to mention inactivity if you can multitask like you showed me?
That’s it so far and I think it’s enough frankly. Day will tell, there’s also total lurkers like Ticktock and Koshi.
Either the team is you and those three or Onegu, or I am wrong about someone. 3P have an easy time convincing me though, I admit 1. Being pretty bad at this and 2. Hypocrisy. I am a full blown hypocrite.
Well, and Yama but I am treating reading his slot very gingerly. Meeting rayn IRL actually reminded me why he actually does not realize how he appears on this and Americans (of non nordic descent) in particular are susceptible to finding him seriously offensive.
So I actually take Yamato at his word that I’m not sure he will continue as either alignment... so what he says rn is more nai than it would be normally.
On October 29 2020 19:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think i am gonna go to the database N0, i dont think i want to take any other action tonight. Any suggestions who i should be checking? People i am not going to check in any case because they are town, are:
Shockeyy Dirkzor Iamperfection
I dont know how many to send. (if we think we can control any of this). sending at least 1 seems undeniable good. so does sending more than 3.
here is how i see it:
sending 1 person: Gives us the chance to semi-check that person. if they go we get the info they give and can make our reads of that. If they dont go we can see it in the corruption increasing - thus making them scum for not playing with town. If we end up sending a mafia (or any 2 player faction) they can swap between them if one have a better night action than the other. We would have a hard time knowing if this happened. edit after writing the other scenarios below: This opens up to someone going that we didn't choose. They can then use this information for themselves.
Sending 2 persons: Similar to above, but one of the 2 can just not go and do their nightaction anyway. Then we can only make our reads from the info they then have to fake.
Sending 3: Gets us the most info since we get 3 different kinds of hints. BUT its so easy for scum and/or 3p to go themselves to increase corruption.
Last scenario: Not deciding on anything and let people figure it out on their own. This option will not really give us any infomation going forward as we dont have anything to compare to.
all in all i think we should send 1 or 2. None seems like a missed opportunity. 3 seems risky if we want to keep the corruption low.
Now i dont have time to figure who should go or what they need to check. Hopefully i can get to that later...
This has changed my opinion.
You’re right, we should be nominating people to go.
On October 30 2020 01:35 ShoCkeyy wrote: The counter is definitely going to increase if we all go. We definitely know mafia is going to visit no matter what, it’s in their interest. I prefer sending one or two towns if there’s three mafia. Rayn you said KP doesn’t count as an action for the database right?
I actually quoted the post I intended to quote. I was replying to a context from prior in the thread. It hadn’t occurred to me that thread mindset had moved on.
Since I am talking about Hapa.
I am starting to think he isn’t just an honest townsided 3P. I am trying to remember if he is still coming at this from the era of “slam is a pretty easy person to lynch” which was true many years ago. I doubt this since he has hosted games I was in a lot recently. That’s basically what keeps me trying to get him off of me, as I have less reason to disbelieve him than to believe him. In which case, his error and it’s subtlety actually makes me want him around for the long run in this game- as I think he can really put us on the right track to a win.
On October 29 2020 08:25 Onegu wrote: Then I will no longer be vt because I got something. See how this works?
Well I derived for now from this post and another where you say “currently”.
Meh I can kinda understand where you are coming from with the question, but it is really reachy to go from you are town to you get a item and become 3p...
I will be more clear. I am VT currently. When I get my item I become blue. Not black, not red, not italics.
It’ll be fucked it a mafia member holds the item. Heh.
Not necessarily; if we lynch them, maybe he gets it! :D
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote: My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:
TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam Slam (1) - Koshi NoVote (1) - TicTock
Is this correct?
Crap I forgot that
I was unable to PM until later.
I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?
WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.
Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron
Moron part yes, scum part no. IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.
On November 02 2020 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: When did you vote for Koshi and why?
Yesterday before the Halloween rush, because I omgus probably? I was tired. I drive many hours for the uber people
When exactly?
Why did you not post a vote on Koshi TO vote for him but posted a vote on TT and NOT vote him?
Cell phone reception and around 7pm my time, when I was shitting and saw my PM did not go through (bad token or some shit) and was clear. Forgot who I was voting for, didn’t care that much as I needed to wipe and go drive, voted Koshi
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote: My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:
TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam Slam (1) - Koshi NoVote (1) - TicTock
Is this correct?
Crap I forgot that
I was unable to PM until later.
I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?
WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.
Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron
Moron part yes, scum part no. IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.
So what motivated you to change your vote. You read the thread and just vote Joshi effectively wasting your vote????????
I had read the thread hours before. The bad token shit was the first thing that came up on my phone.
I was frustrated, as I had wanted to check on a business venture for my parents and the game got in the way, plus I needed to hurry for the uber rush that was coming.
So I scrawled in my vote. I saw TT and Koshi as essentially the same compartment in my approach to this game, probably because Koshi kept hard defending him.
So no, I hadn’t stopped by the thread; that was a different tab.
On November 02 2020 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: When did you vote for Koshi and why?
Yesterday before the Halloween rush, because I omgus probably? I was tired. I drive many hours for the uber people
When exactly?
Why did you not post a vote on Koshi TO vote for him but posted a vote on TT and NOT vote him?
Cell phone reception and around 7pm my time, when I was shitting and saw my PM did not go through (bad token or some shit) and was clear. Forgot who I was voting for, didn’t care that much as I needed to wipe and go drive, voted Koshi
That would be... about 5AM this morning your time
Looks like you had a lot of shit going on when you voted for Koshi.
Why didn't you vote for TT when you said you would?
I had. But the bad token shit got in my way. I sent it off, hit home button, opened uber app and started taking requests.
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote: My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:
TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam Slam (1) - Koshi NoVote (1) - TicTock
Is this correct?
Crap I forgot that
I was unable to PM until later.
I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?
WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.
Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron
Moron part yes, scum part no. IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.
So what motivated you to change your vote. You read the thread and just vote Joshi effectively wasting your vote????????
I had read the thread hours before. The bad token shit was the first thing that came up on my phone.
I was frustrated, as I had wanted to check on a business venture for my parents and the game got in the way, plus I needed to hurry for the uber rush that was coming.
So I scrawled in my vote. I saw TT and Koshi as essentially the same compartment in my approach to this game, probably because Koshi kept hard defending him.
So no, I hadn’t stopped by the thread; that was a different tab.
I don't believe you
That’s fine a lot of people don’t believe my life, like dating billionaire heiresses while driving the poor man’s taxi- then marrying fallen-from-grace heiress friends instead
Having wealthy parents but being dirt poor in LA
Being a sharpshooter with no gun
Being a libertarian not voting for Jo Jorgensen
My life is really weird and bigger than mafia so if that bothers you I’m sorry I guess? I do care about the game but not every waking moment. Let’s just lynch TT in the next day.
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote: My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:
TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam Slam (1) - Koshi NoVote (1) - TicTock
Is this correct?
Crap I forgot that
I was unable to PM until later.
I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?
WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.
Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron
Moron part yes, scum part no. IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.
So what motivated you to change your vote. You read the thread and just vote Joshi effectively wasting your vote????????
I had read the thread hours before. The bad token shit was the first thing that came up on my phone.
I was frustrated, as I had wanted to check on a business venture for my parents and the game got in the way, plus I needed to hurry for the uber rush that was coming.
So I scrawled in my vote. I saw TT and Koshi as essentially the same compartment in my approach to this game, probably because Koshi kept hard defending him.
So no, I hadn’t stopped by the thread; that was a different tab.
I don't believe you
The game got in the way but you manage to unvote saving another player. You had time to change vote but game was still getting in the way yeah ok buddy
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote: My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:
TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam Slam (1) - Koshi NoVote (1) - TicTock
Is this correct?
Crap I forgot that
I was unable to PM until later.
I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?
WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.
Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron
Moron part yes, scum part no. IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.
So what motivated you to change your vote. You read the thread and just vote Joshi effectively wasting your vote????????
I had read the thread hours before. The bad token shit was the first thing that came up on my phone.
I was frustrated, as I had wanted to check on a business venture for my parents and the game got in the way, plus I needed to hurry for the uber rush that was coming.
So I scrawled in my vote. I saw TT and Koshi as essentially the same compartment in my approach to this game, probably because Koshi kept hard defending him.
So no, I hadn’t stopped by the thread; that was a different tab.
I don't believe you
The game got in the way but you manage to unvote saving another player. You had time to change vote but game was still getting in the way yeah ok buddy
Not reading pushing low hanging fruit, this is interesting
TR for rayn but I don’t know about this one anymore.
Maybe you’ve never had a bad token message on a Pm from TL and don’t know what the fuck I am talking about.
When your connection is interrupted, your PM is not sent and you get a message saying in red, “bad token This sometimes happens when some shit explanation probably written by R1CH”
Sometimes this keeps the text you wrote, but in my case (probably because it was hours later) it did not keep anything and was a blank pm to Artanis.
Iamp maybe you live for mafia but sometimes I am more than a little distracted by every restroom being closed and being in some place like Compton or Gramercy park so I’m not exactly thinking of forum names.
Better to confess a mistake than try to hide it. Unless I am mafia.
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote: My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:
TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam Slam (1) - Koshi NoVote (1) - TicTock
Is this correct?
Crap I forgot that
I was unable to PM until later.
I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?
WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.
Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron
Moron part yes, scum part no. IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.
So what motivated you to change your vote. You read the thread and just vote Joshi effectively wasting your vote????????
I had read the thread hours before. The bad token shit was the first thing that came up on my phone.
I was frustrated, as I had wanted to check on a business venture for my parents and the game got in the way, plus I needed to hurry for the uber rush that was coming.
So I scrawled in my vote. I saw TT and Koshi as essentially the same compartment in my approach to this game, probably because Koshi kept hard defending him.
So no, I hadn’t stopped by the thread; that was a different tab.
I don't believe you
The game got in the way but you manage to unvote saving another player. You had time to change vote but game was still getting in the way yeah ok buddy
Not reading pushing low hanging fruit, this is interesting
TR for rayn but I don’t know about this one anymore.
But ShoCkeyy stuff?
Could it be ShoCkeyy and Iamp?
I read every fucking post. Anyone suggesting I'm mafia at this point needs to go back to newbie school
Sure! I need to go back to newbie school for the distracted hopeful businessman barely keeping his fam off the street I’ll take that.
Like I do care I just don’t care about being badass. Or ebough to commit this stuff to memory in front of “ok so are we gonna shoot for trucking or landscaping? There are 5 trucking businesses for sale but currently everything for landscaping that is any good is in NorCal, if anything my parents want to leave Cal entirely so asking to move up there makes no sense... oh dammit my fucking vote didn’t go through. Who was I voting again? Probably Koshi or some shit, I don’t want to no vote this thing... here we go. Alright back to life”
If I was scum, why say anything at all? I could just fein to winder if scum had some way to just nullify a lynch because what with the hard lurking, TT does look really bad.
On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote: [quote] WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.
Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron
Moron part yes, scum part no. IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.
So what motivated you to change your vote. You read the thread and just vote Joshi effectively wasting your vote????????
I had read the thread hours before. The bad token shit was the first thing that came up on my phone.
I was frustrated, as I had wanted to check on a business venture for my parents and the game got in the way, plus I needed to hurry for the uber rush that was coming.
So I scrawled in my vote. I saw TT and Koshi as essentially the same compartment in my approach to this game, probably because Koshi kept hard defending him.
So no, I hadn’t stopped by the thread; that was a different tab.
I don't believe you
The game got in the way but you manage to unvote saving another player. You had time to change vote but game was still getting in the way yeah ok buddy
Not reading pushing low hanging fruit, this is interesting
TR for rayn but I don’t know about this one anymore.
But ShoCkeyy stuff?
Could it be ShoCkeyy and Iamp?
I read every fucking post. Anyone suggesting I'm mafia at this point needs to go back to newbie school
Sure! I need to go back to newbie school for the distracted hopeful businessman barely keeping his fam off the street I’ll take that.
Like I do care I just don’t care about being badass. Or ebough to commit this stuff to memory in front of “ok so are we gonna shoot for trucking or landscaping? There are 5 trucking businesses for sale but currently everything for landscaping that is any good is in NorCal, if anything my parents want to leave Cal entirely so asking to move up there makes no sense... oh dammit my fucking vote didn’t go through. Who was I voting again? Probably Koshi or some shit, I don’t want to no vote this thing... here we go. Alright back to life”
If I was scum, why say anything at all? I could just fein to winder if scum had some way to just nullify a lynch because what with the hard lurking, TT does look really bad.
You expect me to believe that you checked to see if your pm went through tried to log on to BizBuySell.com but didn't have time to check who you were voting because you were trying to get to that site when PM was the tab you had open. And what do you mean by token there is no token that would be for like a message on phone not a message on team liquid. Never mind you use TL from your phone, that is impossible you sot.
On November 02 2020 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: what is a bad token message?
Comes up half the time I try to send a PM. It’s in bold red at the top of the site when a PM gets cocked up.
Do none of you use your phones to play this? I do so exclusively. I’ve seen people clearly think I am online when I am not because they are using activity loggers.
On November 02 2020 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: dude if you told that to yamato (or if i did) he would prolly suicide, iamp.
I lol’ed
I went through enough shit in school to just own it. My memory is terrible and it shows up in my daily decisionmaking. IE ‘let’s use the fuel efficient car for Rayn and Cop to go to Arizona” then
“Oh shit a honda prius shitter is cramped in the back, should have used my own car”
On November 02 2020 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: what is a bad token message?
Comes up half the time I try to send a PM. It’s in bold red at the top of the site when a PM gets cocked up.
Do none of you use your phones to play this? I do so exclusively. I’ve seen people clearly think I am online when I am not because they are using activity loggers.
My phone is online just not me
In finland the internet works, that's the difference. I get that sometimes. I just send the message again and it's okay. You didn't do that?
I did as soon as I saw the request.
But it had been many hours, I guess that is why it cleared the form?
On November 02 2020 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: what is a bad token message?
Comes up half the time I try to send a PM. It’s in bold red at the top of the site when a PM gets cocked up.
Do none of you use your phones to play this? I do so exclusively. I’ve seen people clearly think I am online when I am not because they are using activity loggers.
My phone is online just not me
That happens when you leave the page open too long during a post.
Well I could swear I had hit send
Or do you mean the bad request message? That is a different message
On November 02 2020 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: what is a bad token message?
Comes up half the time I try to send a PM. It’s in bold red at the top of the site when a PM gets cocked up.
Do none of you use your phones to play this? I do so exclusively. I’ve seen people clearly think I am online when I am not because they are using activity loggers.
My phone is online just not me
In finland the internet works, that's the difference. I get that sometimes. I just send the message again and it's okay. You didn't do that?
I did as soon as I saw the request.
But it had been many hours, I guess that is why it cleared the form?
so you didnt have time to send in your vote? or you were too late or what?
The first time I had time and thought I had.
The second time, I opened Safari to do something else entirely (BizBuySell.com) but the first thing I saw was “bad token yadda” so I wrote in Koshi (as the message was blank) and moved on.
On November 02 2020 02:56 Alakaslam wrote: This still doesn’t answer how TT was saved though. He still had 3 votes right? Scum has done shit or someone else lied/fucked up
On November 02 2020 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: what is a bad token message?
Comes up half the time I try to send a PM. It’s in bold red at the top of the site when a PM gets cocked up.
Do none of you use your phones to play this? I do so exclusively. I’ve seen people clearly think I am online when I am not because they are using activity loggers.
My phone is online just not me
In finland the internet works, that's the difference. I get that sometimes. I just send the message again and it's okay. You didn't do that?
I did as soon as I saw the request.
But it had been many hours, I guess that is why it cleared the form?
so you didnt have time to send in your vote? or you were too late or what?
The first time I had time and thought I had.
The second time, I opened Safari to do something else entirely (BizBuySell.com) but the first thing I saw was “bad token yadda” so I wrote in Koshi (as the message was blank) and moved on.
what did you do when you wanted to vote for TT? You even voted that in the game thread.
Iirc I voted him in thread. Then I wrote my PM, hit send, and peaced out.
Thing is I also just checked again. It happened again. I’m not sure either vote got submitted or maybe both did.
On November 02 2020 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you're saying you voted for TT, sent a pm as youre supposed to, and then that's it?
Yes and then opened uber.
But it literally happened again. I was checking my messages and still it sits on bad token request. Closed the tab, gonna use a new one if I ever have to message hosts.
On November 03 2020 07:51 Alakaslam wrote: TT flip matters a lot. What I read so far didn’t really seem illuminating to me at all.
Obviously can’t vote yama for mayor so Rayn gets my vote.
My role is expendable at this point. At least, stuff would have to happen to make me useful.
-poops-
“I know, I’ll vote for the dude who says I should be lynched!”
Obviously I can’t vote you.
Anyway.
Now that I am back at my teaching job and life is cool.
Iamp is lock town. Hapa is more questionable than he was. Onegu is general onegu which is similar to myself. Not a lot of time to play so low quality play in general. Makes it easier for scum to hide. If Iamp hadn’t been so quick to jump down my throat, his statements on Onegu would sway me.
Yama is clearly town. My read on Koshi largely depends on how TT flips. Rayn is obvious town to me. Grackaroni is way in the background. Scum lean. ShoCkeyy is too complex for me to disbelieve right now. Kill him if he lasts long.
On November 03 2020 07:51 Alakaslam wrote: TT flip matters a lot. What I read so far didn’t really seem illuminating to me at all.
Obviously can’t vote yama for mayor so Rayn gets my vote.
My role is expendable at this point. At least, stuff would have to happen to make me useful.
-poops-
“I know, I’ll vote for the dude who says I should be lynched!”
Obviously I can’t vote you.
Anyway.
Now that I am back at my teaching job and life is cool.
Iamp is lock town. Hapa is more questionable than he was. Onegu is general onegu which is similar to myself. Not a lot of time to play so low quality play in general. Makes it easier for scum to hide. If Iamp hadn’t been so quick to jump down my throat, his statements on Onegu would sway me.
Yama is clearly town. My read on Koshi largely depends on how TT flips. Rayn is obvious town to me. Grackaroni is way in the background. Scum lean. ShoCkeyy is too complex for me to disbelieve right now. Kill him if he lasts long.
Dirkzor is town IMO.
-licks fondly-
-eats carrot-
-runs-
Ok I see what you are doing- these posts are not for me.
On November 03 2020 03:26 Koshi wrote: Very clearly I said to lynch acro. I jumped on acro immediately.
And in our thread I said to lynch Slam which is still very much likely the correct idea. It is not my fault you dumbasses killed a mindmelded townie and now want to kill the townie who stood up for him. Like if TTTTT is town you fuckers completely misread him, and refused to believe another townie claiming a full mindmeld. You know how sgitty that is?
I wouldn't lynch you at least before i know either TT flips mafia or Slam flips town. I don't know about others.
We can grant him a cycle
I mean:
If TT is mafia and Slam is town there is a decent chance Koshi is mafia. If TT is town and Slam is mafia Koshi is always town i think. If TT and Slam are both mafia then Koshi is obviously always town If TT and Slam are both town then Koshi is always mafia.
-poops-
To be fair, I agree. If I were mafia, how could that guarantee Koshi is not also my partner? Pretty secure bus when nobody was listening to him. Defending an inactive is nice free towncred too.
On November 03 2020 13:29 ShoCkeyy wrote: What’s up with all these “town” saying to lynch me at some point? Literally no one has counter claimed my insurance license. Why would I, confirmed town, need to be lynched at some point...?
Before lylo is all I am saying. I’m not a fan of killing you now.
But your role seems really powerful as described? Would expect scum to shoot you soon frankly?
On November 03 2020 13:29 ShoCkeyy wrote: What’s up with all these “town” saying to lynch me at some point? Literally no one has counter claimed my insurance license. Why would I, confirmed town, need to be lynched at some point...?
Before lylo is all I am saying. I’m not a fan of killing you now.
But your role seems really powerful as described? Would expect scum to shoot you soon frankly?
I’m always it in certain people’s eyes because I’m bad. Well forgive me. I’ve been posting less, I give some reads but it always circles back to Onegu and I am scum and I need to claim potato. Well I already have.
I am the potato glados. Corruption helps me get info. I was probably an insurance against mafia advancing corruption too quickly early on as I get info and powers at 3 and 5. Because before wheatley, I WAS aperture science.
I’ll read my PM better. My role is more or less useless but why waste the lynch or time on me, especially if the last player is strong (which I am starting to think is the case) and I can at least get info or force them to shoot me instead of a stronger player.
I can undo ShoCkeyy’s role. Fortunately I targetted Hapa n0. No one tried to redirect anything from him, or I am the reason he was RB despite whoever else can redirect things.
Once I knew what ShoCkeyy was doing I did not use my power.
Let me read it again and explain what it does. It gets better with corruption but I feel like it is a swing-balance-damage-control role.
Each night I can “sap power” from another player. Any attempts to redirect actions targeting that player will fail as 1.1 volts is only enough power for sarcasm core functions.
But at 3 and 5 corruption, I can sap more power from the database and gain further abilities.
I am mot told what they are. I also can visit without messing with the corruption counter but considering watchers and the like, I decided not to N0 and then it became clear that doing so was not gonna be worth it period.
Having outed the role though, I should probably start. I can act as an info cop of sorts until I am
Offed? Koshi reminds me nobody has died. Why all the drama then?
On November 04 2020 15:37 Alakaslam wrote: Each night I can “sap power” from another player. Any attempts to redirect actions targeting that player will fail as 1.1 volts is only enough power for sarcasm core functions.
But at 3 and 5 corruption, I can sap more power from the database and gain further abilities.
Did you “sap” me last night?
No. I stopped using it. And I had said that earlier my good man.
On November 04 2020 15:37 Alakaslam wrote: Each night I can “sap power” from another player. Any attempts to redirect actions targeting that player will fail as 1.1 volts is only enough power for sarcasm core functions.
But at 3 and 5 corruption, I can sap more power from the database and gain further abilities.
Did you “sap” me last night?
No. I stopped using it. And I had said that earlier my good man.
I think you should go to the thing and either look into rayn or Grack. Probably just Grack.
Yeah by the way people I am now going no matter what.
I don’t affect the counter.
The question should be who else goes now. I am like nobody going because low voltage.
On November 04 2020 15:37 Alakaslam wrote: Each night I can “sap power” from another player. Any attempts to redirect actions targeting that player will fail as 1.1 volts is only enough power for sarcasm core functions.
But at 3 and 5 corruption, I can sap more power from the database and gain further abilities.
Did you “sap” me last night?
No. I stopped using it. And I had said that earlier my good man.
I think you should go to the thing and either look into rayn or Grack. Probably just Grack.
Yeah by the way people I am now going no matter what.
I don’t affect the counter.
The question should be who else goes now. I am like nobody going because low voltage.
I think that changes with corruption?
are you saying you don't count as going that's pretty convenient if your scum.
Is it though? From what we have seen I think they want corruption to increase.
On November 04 2020 15:37 Alakaslam wrote: Each night I can “sap power” from another player. Any attempts to redirect actions targeting that player will fail as 1.1 volts is only enough power for sarcasm core functions.
But at 3 and 5 corruption, I can sap more power from the database and gain further abilities.
Did you “sap” me last night?
No. I stopped using it. And I had said that earlier my good man.
I think you should go to the thing and either look into rayn or Grack. Probably just Grack.
Yeah by the way people I am now going no matter what.
I don’t affect the counter.
The question should be who else goes now. I am like nobody going because low voltage.
I think that changes with corruption?
are you saying you don't count as going that's pretty convenient if your scum.
Is it though? From what we have seen I think they want corruption to increase.
Or at this point, he wants it to increase
yes but now you have an "excuse" for the corruption counter going up if you just go and kill someone instead.
Oh.
Dammit you are right. Greymist is brilliant, once again.
I’m looming at all these roles as they come out. I was not super enthused about my role but, more and more I see it as a balancer similar to a self aware miller, but only tangentially so afaik. It doesn’t mention how I appear to checks and I would think that it would mention that.
On November 03 2020 06:23 Hapahauli wrote: Also FWIW, I intend to essentially claim my role at the end of N2, including what my 3p win condition is. At this point, I believe I can satisfy my condition while simultaneously being pro-town.
Yes. At the end of N2.
And Christ, how many mafia do I need to kill before I stop being harassed by townies?
On November 05 2020 01:13 Hapahauli wrote: My interpretation of Slam's role is that he cancel's busdriver/redirect effects.
If so, Slam can only confirm if I was or wasn't the "target" of a redirect effect. Seemingly, I wasn't, and I was separately roleblocked by something... again, presumably mafia.
And this intepretation is correct. My “sarcasm functions” do not roleblock. They simply prevent actions from being redirected.
On November 04 2020 15:37 Alakaslam wrote: Each night I can “sap power” from another player. Any attempts to redirect actions targeting that player will fail as 1.1 volts is only enough power for sarcasm core functions.
But at 3 and 5 corruption, I can sap more power from the database and gain further abilities.
Did you “sap” me last night?
No. I stopped using it. And I had said that earlier my good man.
I think you should go to the thing and either look into rayn or Grack. Probably just Grack.
Yeah by the way people I am now going no matter what.
I don’t affect the counter.
The question should be who else goes now. I am like nobody going because low voltage.
On November 05 2020 22:55 ShoCkeyy wrote: I’m not mafia you ignorants... I literally can save people, that’s my role... I’m pro town and been pro town. I targeted Hapa last night with my role.
NO, you targetted me.
About to work what a time. Whatever there are two days to hash this out.
Because your connection to the database is unencrypted, Aperture Science will learn who you have targeted, but not the information you obtain. Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways.
Well this also makes sense with my role so at 3 corruption it’s what I got. SAM on sterioids.
As Rayn identified, there is a basic math problem with your claim. If your role "doesn't count" for the purposes of a TL Mafia Database visit, how did the corruption counter go up last night?
Also, what is your 2nd ability, now that the corruption counter has gone up?
This is now all in the thread but,
ShoCkeyy redirected me to you. This caused my immunity to be nullified, and rayn was so smart he was stupid and went- raising the counter.
My second role is to see the visits just like mafia do.
Because your connection to the database is unencrypted, Aperture Science will learn who you have targeted, but not the information you obtain. Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways.
Well this also makes sense with my role so at 3 corruption it’s what I got. SAM on sterioids.
On November 06 2020 00:14 Hapahauli wrote: Oh wait, he is confirmed lying, nevermind.
To my knowledge, we have never confirmed if mafia can simultaneously deliver KP and take another role-based night action (i.e. Roleblock or visit the database). Greymist confirmed to me that town is not privy to this information.
I was thinking that a non-Slam mafia could have visited the database and shot Dirk and simply not claimed the visit today.
If Slam is now claiming that he is a database watcher, that can't be true, because he would know the "mystery mafia" member.
Goddamn it hapa you too? I thought at least you were reading me.
Well, go for it then lynch me first because it’s gotta happen before lylo am I right? Was trying to leave that meta in the dust.
Because your connection to the database is unencrypted, Aperture Science will learn who you have targeted, but not the information you obtain. Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways.
Well this also makes sense with my role so at 3 corruption it’s what I got. SAM on sterioids.
As Rayn identified, there is a basic math problem with your claim. If your role "doesn't count" for the purposes of a TL Mafia Database visit, how did the corruption counter go up last night?
Also, what is your 2nd ability, now that the corruption counter has gone up?
This is now all in the thread but,
ShoCkeyy redirected me to you. This caused my immunity to be nullified, and rayn was so smart he was stupid and went- raising the counter.
My second role is to see the visits just like mafia do.
Nha that's not how it worked.
Shockey inverted all actions done on Hapa to him. You visited the center and asked info on Hapa instead you got info on Shockey and that info got possibly inverted if that is possible.
There is no way anything happened to you with how Shockey his role works and that 99,99% confirmed.
Except I got no info? Other than what my new power did. If I were scum I would
Dammit I would do exactly this. GreYMisT is wiser and wiser this game is making me see his lambasting of GMarsh is deserved by the marshall
On November 06 2020 00:40 Koshi wrote: Why? 1) the action "get info on hapa" was done on Hapa 2) The action "get info is reversed and applied to shockey" 3) Results go back to Slam.
On November 06 2020 00:40 Koshi wrote: Why? 1) the action "get info on hapa" was done on Hapa 2) The action "get info is reversed and applied to shockey" 3) Results go back to Slam.
Except I got nothing?!?
You sure got something because you keep crying Shockey
W H A T
I wanted to lynch rayn and then retracted it and want ShoCkeyy to explain what info he got on hapa and why he chose hapa?
I frankly think one of the more experienced players is it. All this is too confusing but maybe that’s why it is time to clear the dreck and let the big boys handle this one.
On November 06 2020 00:46 Alakaslam wrote: I wanted to lynch rayn and then retracted it and want ShoCkeyy to explain what info he got on hapa and why he chose hapa?
why does shockeyy have info on hapa?
Doesn’t he get what he does to me? After also taking my role so he gets my immunity too (so info without affecting database but since I went I did/etc?)
On November 06 2020 00:46 Alakaslam wrote: I wanted to lynch rayn and then retracted it and want ShoCkeyy to explain what info he got on hapa and why he chose hapa?
why does shockeyy have info on hapa?
Doesn’t he get what he does to me? After also taking my role so he gets my immunity too (so info without affecting database but since I went I did/etc?)
so you dont have info on shockeyy?
No. I got nothing. So I expect he knows about any status effects on Hapa.
On November 06 2020 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do we have yamato that killed 2 town players? Time will tell. Maybe he can get MVP like thingyman (no offense, this was just a joke )
On November 06 2020 01:28 iamperfection wrote: i think i understand why you rub some people the wrong way rayn
i think you are just as "mean" as i am you just can use english words better than i can (i look like a dick even when i have no fucking intention of being one at times)
And so much this lol. Ye all are of one blood, as international brothers and I speak soothly
On November 06 2020 03:12 ShoCkeyy wrote and slam also said: I care for all of you, and enjoy playing with you all even if there is heated moments, which I just think and assume is part of the game at times.
Rayn sent me something about moving to Finland (I would do it except my korean family is like NO COLD PLACE SHUT UP YOU NORDIC SWINE) and I replied twice because
Even though I knew you were right I got so bitter with you early on Iamp in response to my sob story but when I remembered I was lying out my ass I 100% respected that
On November 07 2020 02:18 Alakaslam wrote: Even though I knew you were right I got so bitter with you early on Iamp in response to my sob story but when I remembered I was lying out my ass I 100% respected that
Insofar as I did save TT purposefully, the cover was all truth. I seriously had forgotten I was bussing and then changed it to Koshi and forgot my reason to give for it
On November 07 2020 02:19 iamperfection wrote: i think you should have lied about not voting tick tock. Someone could have brought up their could be vote stealing mechanics or vote switching.
Yeah but I suck at lying so I need a heavy dose of truth to stick to.
Like at some point I’d have been like “but I voted Koshi D1? What are you even saying?” And stuck to it too hard.
Yep, and I almost did it. But ShoCkeyy was still auspected enough that I kept him. Dirk had info coming and I had to assume protecc would be on all of Iamp, Hapa, Rayn
On November 07 2020 05:16 Alakaslam wrote: ShoCkeyy was still auspected enough that I kept him.
why did anyone suspect shockeyy n1????
I don’t remember but I do remember thinking that was the case. Also I feared the strange mechanics on him.
Also most of my shitting up the thread was like 80% true at least and often 100% true; I can’t remember thread sentiment for jack shit as either alignmnet if life sucks, and it does right now (aside from the incoming kid and time spent with the lady)
As Iamp pointed out, that’s not an excuse for shit play. If we start to excuse shit play because “don wanna hurr his feelin” then mafia will just hide behind shit
On November 07 2020 05:20 Alakaslam wrote: Also most of my shitting up the thread was like 80% true at least and often 100% true; I can’t remember thread sentiment for jack shit as either alignmnet if life sucks, and it does right now (aside from the incoming kid and time spent with the lady)
Well i think you made yourself look good to at least some people. The problem is that when Acro flipped shockeyy confirmed himself like 100% and confirmed Koshi (which we ofc didn't know at the time). Had you shot shockeyy that would not change (i assume?). But still, shockeyy was the only person close to being confirmed, aside from iamp and yamato (after N1 -- when hapa claimed rb, iamp and yamato were basically clear). I dont really know what you should have done, with TT alive you can blame me or grack or onegu i guess. But then TT was not alive anymore, and regardless of why you didnt end up voting for him that looked terrible for you.
Exactly. Like I could have won this without Acro and TT if I didn’t change my vote but I’d probably have had to be clairvoyant to not. Remaining silent would have worked for a while, but I also would have increased the likelihood of scumslipping worse than I wound up doing and would not have dissuaded Hapa and Iamp at all which probably would have actually sped up my demise.
Couple with the fact that you know me, and can see pretty easily when I am lying (plus your general ability to detect lies which is already strong) if you’d (rayn) been protecc at all I would still have lost.
On November 07 2020 05:20 Alakaslam wrote: Also most of my shitting up the thread was like 80% true at least and often 100% true; I can’t remember thread sentiment for jack shit as either alignmnet if life sucks, and it does right now (aside from the incoming kid and time spent with the lady)
Well i think you made yourself look good to at least some people. The problem is that when Acro flipped shockeyy confirmed himself like 100% and confirmed Koshi (which we ofc didn't know at the time). Had you shot shockeyy that would not change (i assume?). But still, shockeyy was the only person close to being confirmed, aside from iamp and yamato (after N1 -- when hapa claimed rb, iamp and yamato were basically clear). I dont really know what you should have done, with TT alive you can blame me or grack or onegu i guess. But then TT was not alive anymore, and regardless of why you didnt end up voting for him that looked terrible for you.
Exactly. Like I could have won this without Acro and TT if I didn’t change my vote but I’d probably have had to be clairvoyant to not. Remaining silent would have worked for a while, but I also would have increased the likelihood of scumslipping worse than I wound up doing and would not have dissuaded Hapa and Iamp at all which probably would have actually sped up my demise.
I dont think you could have tbh. Roles would have confirmed each other quick enough since you lost 2 dudes in first two cycles with no town dead.
But I was foolin people man
Lotta leeway to do that with crazy game. Make people second guess confirmation and what not.
“Do you lack imagination? What if that role worked like this? Like have you considered that possible caveat? Can you really trust that just because he claims it?” While bullshitting with the power of GreYMisT wisdom like holy shit that fakeclaim was tailor made for not just the role, but for Slam in that role
On November 07 2020 05:31 Alakaslam wrote: Couple with the fact that you know me, and can see pretty easily when I am lying (plus your general ability to detect lies which is already strong) if you’d (rayn) been protecc at all I would still have lost.
I will tell you a secret. I can't tell when people are lying, especially in text. That's why i went to the database last night, it had to be one of you or Grack and 90% i think i catch the mafia.
On November 07 2020 05:31 Alakaslam wrote: Couple with the fact that you know me, and can see pretty easily when I am lying (plus your general ability to detect lies which is already strong) if you’d (rayn) been protecc at all I would still have lost.
I will tell you a secret. I can't tell when people are lying, especially in text. That's why i went to the database last night, it had to be one of you or Grack and 90% i think i catch the mafia.
Oh wait a minute. Communication fail on my part.
I am not calling you an FBI wizard. Like ESP and shit. I am saying you are good at like, hunting down a lie? Doing lateral stuff to test the words that have been spoken so you are pretty much saying what I was talking about.
But I didn’t know you already had that solid of info.
On November 07 2020 05:47 Alakaslam wrote: Probably. I think I would have conceded sooner if I had been properly reading.
But ain’t nobody got the time for that
This is kinda funny btw. Nothing towards you but still. I afk'd for a day, i came back and could easily confirm almost everyone as not mafia in like 10 minutes. Does anyone actually read the game?
I do read it! Just speed read and then forget a lot of details.
On November 07 2020 07:21 DoYouHas wrote: Good game town!
I was really pulling for that perfect game ending but it was decisive none-the-less. 3 correct saves in a row from Koshi, D1 scum lynch, N1 scum vig. Clever database play to catch out the last scum's fake claim. Seriously well played.
On November 07 2020 07:21 DoYouHas wrote: Good game town!
I was really pulling for that perfect game ending but it was decisive none-the-less. 3 correct saves in a row from Koshi, D1 scum lynch, N1 scum vig. Clever database play to catch out the last scum's fake claim. Seriously well played.
Who are you?
A forum oldie i haven’t seen in a while!
Technically I am a forum oldie that no one has seen in a while
U too famous homboii status like Sean Connery Carrie Fisher; no one will forget you.
Well now you are another proof that women also use the internet
On November 07 2020 07:21 DoYouHas wrote: Good game town!
I was really pulling for that perfect game ending but it was decisive none-the-less. 3 correct saves in a row from Koshi, D1 scum lynch, N1 scum vig. Clever database play to catch out the last scum's fake claim. Seriously well played.
Who are you?
A forum oldie i haven’t seen in a while!
Technically I am a forum oldie that no one has seen in a while
U too famous homboii status like Sean Connery Carrie Fisher; no one will forget you.
Well now you are another proof that women also use the internet
On November 07 2020 07:21 DoYouHas wrote: Good game town!
I was really pulling for that perfect game ending but it was decisive none-the-less. 3 correct saves in a row from Koshi, D1 scum lynch, N1 scum vig. Clever database play to catch out the last scum's fake claim. Seriously well played.
Who are you?
A forum oldie i haven’t seen in a while!
Technically I am a forum oldie that no one has seen in a while
U too famous homboii status like Sean Connery Carrie Fisher; no one will forget you.
Well now you are another proof that women also use the internet
While I certainly love Carrie Fisher, I am a man behind the GM screen.
Flattered nonetheless
See I THOUGHT you had said Paternity at some point but Eversince knows I am gullible
As an angelino and an uber driver to boot I am trained to be 100% swayed by any gendered breath of wind lol
On November 07 2020 05:55 ShoCkeyy wrote: Yea, I kept saying I was best for database check, because I wanted to take the shot, since I would of still survived, but also protected who the most townie person was, which helped figure out Acro fast as fuck hah.
You were actually the worst to go though...
You wanted to sell that insurance every night man.
I also think Slam made a mistake in actually visiting the Database. He literally fake claimed a role that ment he could say he went but actually used his role every night... Had he not gone Rayns trap would not have worked.
But I’d have also never had KP realistically.
Every move would have been a mistake by that point; if I hadn’t gone one would have said I should have to gain KP etc etc.
And I claimed to gain info- I had planned on actually gaining info and using/sharing according to my discretion
On November 07 2020 18:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I would have still cleared grack though so for me nothing would have changed in terms of who can be mafia.
And so much this. Rayn had me, so did Koshi and they would have swayed the grace from Hapa and Iamp.
On November 07 2020 07:21 DoYouHas wrote: Good game town!
I was really pulling for that perfect game ending but it was decisive none-the-less. 3 correct saves in a row from Koshi, D1 scum lynch, N1 scum vig. Clever database play to catch out the last scum's fake claim. Seriously well played.
Who are you?
A forum oldie i haven’t seen in a while!
Technically I am a forum oldie that no one has seen in a while
Who are you?
Thanks for hosting. The setup was awesome as always.
Grey is amazing woman that use to play/host! Forgive bad memory, i reminisce on the hots, bm, marv, etc days.
I for one is happy to see old blood return. I want to play more. Depends on US election. Right now is very difficult for me. My farm land is in US. I am not able to travel there right now.
So Biden won, you coming back? How did this depend on the election?