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On November 05 2020 04:45 Hapahauli wrote:That all said, I think that the "thread B confirmed town" theory is out of the window. That also said, I think TT's filter makes Slam and Koshi look good. TT returns after Acro is dead, knows Acro will flip mafia, and immediately throws shade on Slam and Koshi: Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 19:48 Tictock wrote:On November 02 2020 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyhow 5hrs to work.
I think Koshi started as a lion (that i would expect him to) and devolved to a house cat *meow*. He needs to step up. I still think TT is mafia. Be wary of Koshi. yamato has fallen off earth. Slam is prolly town. Onegu who knows. haha.. i dont even know anything tbh. dont kill iamp or shockeyy. From what I have read I kinda agree with rayn here regarding koshi. His first string of posts are what I remember enjoying about Koshi, but his posting this phase feels tame. I did note he mentioned he something about not having that burning passion, and for all our sakes I hope he finds it again. Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 19:56 Tictock wrote:
Not even finishing this phase tonight, I tried
Slam seeming awkward at start of phase is all that really jumps out to me, and not like he is having fun being awkward. ... it does not seem likely for TT to respond to Acro's lynch (and knowing that he would flip red) by immediately throwing shade on another scumbuddy.
I see this going either way. TT knew he was close to being lynched. So assuming he was the next lynch or maybe even vig (as happened) he wanted to throw the last bit of bus on his last mate.
But your theory is equally valid. So i wouldnt put much stock in it.
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On November 05 2020 05:07 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 05:05 Dirkzor wrote:On November 05 2020 04:45 Hapahauli wrote:That all said, I think that the "thread B confirmed town" theory is out of the window. That also said, I think TT's filter makes Slam and Koshi look good. TT returns after Acro is dead, knows Acro will flip mafia, and immediately throws shade on Slam and Koshi: On November 02 2020 19:48 Tictock wrote:On November 02 2020 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyhow 5hrs to work.
I think Koshi started as a lion (that i would expect him to) and devolved to a house cat *meow*. He needs to step up. I still think TT is mafia. Be wary of Koshi. yamato has fallen off earth. Slam is prolly town. Onegu who knows. haha.. i dont even know anything tbh. dont kill iamp or shockeyy. From what I have read I kinda agree with rayn here regarding koshi. His first string of posts are what I remember enjoying about Koshi, but his posting this phase feels tame. I did note he mentioned he something about not having that burning passion, and for all our sakes I hope he finds it again. On November 02 2020 19:56 Tictock wrote:
Not even finishing this phase tonight, I tried
Slam seeming awkward at start of phase is all that really jumps out to me, and not like he is having fun being awkward. ... it does not seem likely for TT to respond to Acro's lynch (and knowing that he would flip red) by immediately throwing shade on another scumbuddy. I see this going either way. TT knew he was close to being lynched. So assuming he was the next lynch or maybe even vig (as happened) he wanted to throw the last bit of bus on his last mate. But your theory is equally valid. So i wouldnt put much stock in it. Consider this: if TT had survived the night and Acro flipped red, how do you think TT would have looked? Because he hard bussed Acro all of Day/Night 0. I don't think this was done unintentionally.
He would have looked exactly the same is what i think. I wouldn't have thought his 2½ remarks on acro as indicative of anything. I'm not really sure what you think would have happened so you're welcome to explain.
All im trying to say here is that I think you are overthinking parts of your analysis atm.
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I mean NOW after both have flipped they tell a story. But with only Acro flip... not so much. And at the point where TT wrote it, he assumed we would only have the Acro flip to work with.
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On November 05 2020 05:27 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 05:14 Dirkzor wrote:On November 05 2020 05:07 Hapahauli wrote:On November 05 2020 05:05 Dirkzor wrote:On November 05 2020 04:45 Hapahauli wrote:That all said, I think that the "thread B confirmed town" theory is out of the window. That also said, I think TT's filter makes Slam and Koshi look good. TT returns after Acro is dead, knows Acro will flip mafia, and immediately throws shade on Slam and Koshi: On November 02 2020 19:48 Tictock wrote:On November 02 2020 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyhow 5hrs to work.
I think Koshi started as a lion (that i would expect him to) and devolved to a house cat *meow*. He needs to step up. I still think TT is mafia. Be wary of Koshi. yamato has fallen off earth. Slam is prolly town. Onegu who knows. haha.. i dont even know anything tbh. dont kill iamp or shockeyy. From what I have read I kinda agree with rayn here regarding koshi. His first string of posts are what I remember enjoying about Koshi, but his posting this phase feels tame. I did note he mentioned he something about not having that burning passion, and for all our sakes I hope he finds it again. On November 02 2020 19:56 Tictock wrote:
Not even finishing this phase tonight, I tried
Slam seeming awkward at start of phase is all that really jumps out to me, and not like he is having fun being awkward. ... it does not seem likely for TT to respond to Acro's lynch (and knowing that he would flip red) by immediately throwing shade on another scumbuddy. I see this going either way. TT knew he was close to being lynched. So assuming he was the next lynch or maybe even vig (as happened) he wanted to throw the last bit of bus on his last mate. But your theory is equally valid. So i wouldnt put much stock in it. Consider this: if TT had survived the night and Acro flipped red, how do you think TT would have looked? Because he hard bussed Acro all of Day/Night 0. I don't think this was done unintentionally. He would have looked exactly the same is what i think. I wouldn't have thought his 2½ remarks on acro as indicative of anything. I'm not really sure what you think would have happened so you're welcome to explain. All im trying to say here is that I think you are overthinking parts of your analysis atm. Reading through TT's Day 0 / Night 0 filter is striking, because as admittedly inactive as he was, he was the first player to call Acro suspicious, and was consistent with it throughout the cycle. When you think about the mafia roles this game: 1) Acro activated his ability on N0 2) TT seemingly activated his ability sometime on D1 (hence the noflips on D1/N1). This all looks like a planned and coordinated play by mafia, that was probably blown up by TT afk'ing unexpectedly. I think part of that play was setting up for TT to bus Acro hard and claim cred.
I'm not saying this might can't be the truth. It just seems to well planned for a mafia team with 1 guy mostly AFK (D0/n0 maybe because he was in scum QT tho). The few times i've been mafia, the plan never ever gets fully planned and people do stuff left and right. I just won't give credit to a team that have failed this badly up until this point to have made this well thought out plan (despite it failing)
But to be fair i havent really done my homework here with filterdiving and re-reading like i usually do. Been a long day for me ..
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How many for corruption increase. Half majority is 3? 9/2 = 5, 5/2=3
Am i doing it right?
So we should send 1-2.
Yeah grack and slam is fine if my math is correct.
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Yeah i know. Thats why you two is fine. That way we will still somewhat know if grack went or not (or figure out if you are lying about your role. But if you are, you are lost likely scum and cant push it to 3 visits.)
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What i think happened is this:
Acro decides to use his power in a way that portrait him as town. His solution is to split the thread by the playerlist. So we can assume 1-6 has 0-1 mafia left and 7-12 has 0-1 mafia left (if we think there is 3 scum total. With its 1 in group for certain)
Shockey busdriving iamp does complicate it a bit, but not much. If shockey is scum (i dont think so) you rearrange the groups like they ended up 2-7 and 1+8-12, with 0-1 scum in each.
But is shockey isnt scum (he most likely isnt) you need to factor in Iamp original position and use 1-6 and 7-12 and not how they actually ended up.
I also can't really see all these confirmed town you keep throwing around. Only Onegu is really comfirmed. In a setup this complicated everything can be turned around at some point.
Again TT not using his power is a very hard read to make. He wasnt there at all. Maybe the original plan was for him to use it, but he was a a no show, or maybe it was never the plan since he was alone scum in off thread and Acro+1 was meant to get someone else lynched.
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On November 05 2020 17:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We know that roleblock happened N0.
From mafia TT went to database, Acrofales couldnt have gone because otherwise he couldnt have used his role.
TT went confirmed because 4 people went and corruption went up. So everyone who said they went actually went.
TT is not a eoleblocker, so because of the corruption going up yamato, iamp (and onegu) cannot be mafia roleblocker either.
Unless you want to claim either 2 mafia teams or that mafia doesnt have a roleblocker...
This was clever! I like it.
But we can't have 3p roleblocker? Or 4p scum team? Or some other power we can't think off since we arent greymist.
I just don't want to close a door completely shut.
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Okay claim time. My night action i have mentioned earlier is that i'm a parity cop. N0 i checked Iamp and N1 i checked Onegu. They do NOT have the same alignment.
So whatever happens to me this night (I assume I'm dead) lynch iamp. He might be 3p, i don't know. I think he is 3p myself. But he isn't town like Onegu.
I'm checking slam this night and will inform of my check if able. I might have won the game or I am dead. So probably wont be able to either way.
It was fun playing with you all =)
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On November 07 2020 03:52 Koshi wrote:
Dirk I am sry if I made you lose 🤣.
Truly did it with best intentions. Was going to save you anyway but thought it would be ideal to also block mafia kp but didnt account for a piercing shot.
On the other hand, you did lie and didnt trust town to bring this home, also you raised the corruption and made it piercing.
Hahaha awesome!
Basicly I think Rayn got me killed. If he had just done what he said he would do and not visit database on N2 i wouldnt have been dead =)
GG all. Was a fun game to get back to Mafia with. Been yeeeears since i last played. I thinki did decently regardless. My claim and action D0 was mostly "I'm bored - lets do shit"  Ended up enjoying the thrill of getting closer and closer to the deadline.
Btw if slam was killed D2 by Yamato when he was mayor instead of Onegu, i would also have won i think. So its also yamatos fault =)
After i died i thought about my N2 play. I should have fully claimed with the reason that scum shouldnt kill me anyway since i would be gone soon and they might aswell shoot someone else. Hoping town didnt have any more KP. Was prolly a bigger gamble, but a fun one =)
To sum up: It was not my fault i lost 
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On November 07 2020 04:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I think I did good? Hah. I didn’t get lynched which is usually the case.
Was it deliberate that your first claim was so.... incoherent? I thought you were scum since your roles seemed way to OP. And the way you claimed was also "along the way" sorta claim.
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Heheh no worries. I tried to play it as town all the way through so i take a half win. Even though i lost :D I'm too old now to really care if i win or loose... Just trying to have fun.
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On November 07 2020 04:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2020 04:21 Dirkzor wrote:On November 07 2020 04:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I think I did good? Hah. I didn’t get lynched which is usually the case. Was it deliberate that your first claim was so.... incoherent? I thought you were scum since your roles seemed way to OP. And the way you claimed was also "along the way" sorta claim. Yea, I didn’t want mafia to catch on to what my entire role was.
But why? If you just kept "insuring" someone they couldnt kill you. Only way you could die is by lynch or if a townie healed your target (which almost happened) Or am i missing something?
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Btw yamato i caught Dalinar reference. Im reading thw books right now.
Unite them.
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Hehe. Im on the 6th book now. So soon ready for rythm of war. But during this game i read quite a lot less than normally.
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EPT
