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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 02 2020 21:03 GMT
#1421
But im town
Try TL Mafia!!!
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 02 2020 21:06 GMT
#1422
On November 03 2020 06:02 Onegu wrote:
I dont really want to put this out there, I could not be lying about my role but my faction he knows I am mafia and trys to get you to shoot me knowing it will power me up... This was before my claim.

Also if there is another gun you really should shoot me. The next day you still lynch and then I stop all kills for a cycle if I dont immediately sacrifice myself it is a scum claim and you react accordingly

good point lol
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 02 2020 21:07 GMT
#1423
On November 03 2020 05:37 Hapahauli wrote:
That all aside, and mathematically speaking, it is optimal to lynch into "Thread B", since (assuming a standard 3p mafia team) there are 1-2 mafia present in that thread, vs. 0-1 in "Thread A". Therefore, we should look to killing Slam/Koshi before addressing Grack.

However, I do not believe Grack is clear.


Hmm...

I don't think anybody really asked, as I didn't see, but what made you shoot TT?

On November 02 2020 21:47 Hapahauli wrote:
I shot TT.


was it this?

On November 02 2020 18:54 Tictock wrote:
I checked Dirk, and it seems corruption is good for scum as the next level boosts their KP.

Assuming somebody is already assigned to checking tonight so I will not visit again.

Life?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 02 2020 21:13 GMT
#1424
i think hapa is a sk or he has to kill certain people before he can win.

Its why he wanted a full claim before.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 02 2020 21:16 GMT
#1425
I did say there are normally anti claim mechanics in games like these
Try TL Mafia!!!
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 21:17 GMT
#1426
On November 03 2020 06:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 05:37 Hapahauli wrote:
That all aside, and mathematically speaking, it is optimal to lynch into "Thread B", since (assuming a standard 3p mafia team) there are 1-2 mafia present in that thread, vs. 0-1 in "Thread A". Therefore, we should look to killing Slam/Koshi before addressing Grack.

However, I do not believe Grack is clear.


Hmm...

I don't think anybody really asked, as I didn't see, but what made you shoot TT?

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 21:47 Hapahauli wrote:
I shot TT.


was it this?

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 18:54 Tictock wrote:
I checked Dirk, and it seems corruption is good for scum as the next level boosts their KP.

Assuming somebody is already assigned to checking tonight so I will not visit again.



I was going to shoot TT or Onegu that night. What made me decide on TT was the following:
1) Acro goading me into trying to shoot Onegu didn't sit right with me.
2) Onegu's behavior had been, pretty attention seeking in the early game. Yes he was lurking, but he was not contributing and getting in people's faces about it.
3) I wanted to essentially "un-do" the no-lynch in Thread B so we would have some information to work with from the votes.

So I submitted my night action and was asleep while TT did his posting last night. I woke up and he was dead.

In retrospect, I regret not waiting until N2 to take the shot, since it was rash to do so when I didn't yet know Acro's alignment.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 02 2020 21:19 GMT
#1427
On November 03 2020 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 06:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 03 2020 05:37 Hapahauli wrote:
That all aside, and mathematically speaking, it is optimal to lynch into "Thread B", since (assuming a standard 3p mafia team) there are 1-2 mafia present in that thread, vs. 0-1 in "Thread A". Therefore, we should look to killing Slam/Koshi before addressing Grack.

However, I do not believe Grack is clear.


Hmm...

I don't think anybody really asked, as I didn't see, but what made you shoot TT?

On November 02 2020 21:47 Hapahauli wrote:
I shot TT.


was it this?

On November 02 2020 18:54 Tictock wrote:
I checked Dirk, and it seems corruption is good for scum as the next level boosts their KP.

Assuming somebody is already assigned to checking tonight so I will not visit again.



I was going to shoot TT or Onegu that night. What made me decide on TT was the following:
1) Acro goading me into trying to shoot Onegu didn't sit right with me.
2) Onegu's behavior had been, pretty attention seeking in the early game. Yes he was lurking, but he was not contributing and getting in people's faces about it.
3) I wanted to essentially "un-do" the no-lynch in Thread B so we would have some information to work with from the votes.

So I submitted my night action and was asleep while TT did his posting last night. I woke up and he was dead.

In retrospect, I regret not waiting until N2 to take the shot, since it was rash to do so when I didn't yet know Acro's alignment.

or you dont care because you have to kill everybody
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 21:20 GMT
#1428
On November 03 2020 06:19 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 03 2020 06:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 03 2020 05:37 Hapahauli wrote:
That all aside, and mathematically speaking, it is optimal to lynch into "Thread B", since (assuming a standard 3p mafia team) there are 1-2 mafia present in that thread, vs. 0-1 in "Thread A". Therefore, we should look to killing Slam/Koshi before addressing Grack.

However, I do not believe Grack is clear.


Hmm...

I don't think anybody really asked, as I didn't see, but what made you shoot TT?

On November 02 2020 21:47 Hapahauli wrote:
I shot TT.


was it this?

On November 02 2020 18:54 Tictock wrote:
I checked Dirk, and it seems corruption is good for scum as the next level boosts their KP.

Assuming somebody is already assigned to checking tonight so I will not visit again.



I was going to shoot TT or Onegu that night. What made me decide on TT was the following:
1) Acro goading me into trying to shoot Onegu didn't sit right with me.
2) Onegu's behavior had been, pretty attention seeking in the early game. Yes he was lurking, but he was not contributing and getting in people's faces about it.
3) I wanted to essentially "un-do" the no-lynch in Thread B so we would have some information to work with from the votes.

So I submitted my night action and was asleep while TT did his posting last night. I woke up and he was dead.

In retrospect, I regret not waiting until N2 to take the shot, since it was rash to do so when I didn't yet know Acro's alignment.

or you dont care because you have to kill everybody


In what world would an SK think it was a good idea to claim 3p?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 02 2020 21:22 GMT
#1429
On November 03 2020 06:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 06:19 iamperfection wrote:
On November 03 2020 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 03 2020 06:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 03 2020 05:37 Hapahauli wrote:
That all aside, and mathematically speaking, it is optimal to lynch into "Thread B", since (assuming a standard 3p mafia team) there are 1-2 mafia present in that thread, vs. 0-1 in "Thread A". Therefore, we should look to killing Slam/Koshi before addressing Grack.

However, I do not believe Grack is clear.


Hmm...

I don't think anybody really asked, as I didn't see, but what made you shoot TT?

On November 02 2020 21:47 Hapahauli wrote:
I shot TT.


was it this?

On November 02 2020 18:54 Tictock wrote:
I checked Dirk, and it seems corruption is good for scum as the next level boosts their KP.

Assuming somebody is already assigned to checking tonight so I will not visit again.



I was going to shoot TT or Onegu that night. What made me decide on TT was the following:
1) Acro goading me into trying to shoot Onegu didn't sit right with me.
2) Onegu's behavior had been, pretty attention seeking in the early game. Yes he was lurking, but he was not contributing and getting in people's faces about it.
3) I wanted to essentially "un-do" the no-lynch in Thread B so we would have some information to work with from the votes.

So I submitted my night action and was asleep while TT did his posting last night. I woke up and he was dead.

In retrospect, I regret not waiting until N2 to take the shot, since it was rash to do so when I didn't yet know Acro's alignment.

or you dont care because you have to kill everybody


In what world would an SK think it was a good idea to claim 3p?

in the world of greymist games where the roles are very complicated.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 02 2020 21:22 GMT
#1430
I have this weird conspiracy where my machine learning algorithm at our insurance agency suggest something that Grack has touched on, and you're very willingly to continue saying Grack isn't in the clear, so it doesn't sit right with me just yet.

On November 02 2020 22:51 Grackaroni wrote:
It seems like Acro was trying to vote off ShoCkkey so I doubt he's mafia. I also didn't get the impression that the reaction over the bus driving between the two of them was pre-planned.

Dirkzor/Hapa aren't teammates with Acro, but I've never thought either of them would be red to begin with.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Onegu hammered his teammate. Otherwise there's 2 in the other thread.
Life?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 21:23 GMT
#1431
Also FWIW, I intend to essentially claim my role at the end of N2, including what my 3p win condition is. At this point, I believe I can satisfy my condition while simultaneously being pro-town.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 02 2020 21:26 GMT
#1432
On November 03 2020 06:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Also FWIW, I intend to essentially claim my role at the end of N2, including what my 3p win condition is. At this point, I believe I can satisfy my condition while simultaneously being pro-town.

so according to you. You haven't visited anyone besides ticktcok because you were roleblocked correct?
Just for the record.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 21:28 GMT
#1433
On November 03 2020 06:26 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 06:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Also FWIW, I intend to essentially claim my role at the end of N2, including what my 3p win condition is. At this point, I believe I can satisfy my condition while simultaneously being pro-town.

so according to you. You haven't visited anyone besides ticktcok because you were roleblocked correct?
Just for the record.


Correct. N0 roleblock. N1 shot TT.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 02 2020 21:31 GMT
#1434
On November 03 2020 06:26 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 06:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Also FWIW, I intend to essentially claim my role at the end of N2, including what my 3p win condition is. At this point, I believe I can satisfy my condition while simultaneously being pro-town.

so according to you. You haven't visited anyone besides ticktcok because you were roleblocked correct?
Just for the record.


I wonder if hapa claims rb because I didn't die
Life?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 21:37 GMT
#1435
On November 03 2020 06:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 06:26 iamperfection wrote:
On November 03 2020 06:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Also FWIW, I intend to essentially claim my role at the end of N2, including what my 3p win condition is. At this point, I believe I can satisfy my condition while simultaneously being pro-town.

so according to you. You haven't visited anyone besides ticktcok because you were roleblocked correct?
Just for the record.


I wonder if hapa claims rb because I didn't die


Regarding Roleblocks, there are two claimed roleblocks so far:
N0: Myself
N1: You (Shockeyy)

This leaves a couple of theories;
1) I am fake-claiming RB as mafia;
2) I am an anti-town 3p and I am fake-claiming RB;
3) I am an anti-town 3p and I was RB'd by mafia;
4) I am a pro-town 3p and I was RB'd by mafia.

1 and 2 are not likely scenarios, since I have nothing to gain by fake-claiming RB. If I fake-claim RB, I risk having a lot of suspicion thrown against me since there was seemingly no mafia night kill.

I believe 3 can be discounted as well. I shot TT. Why should I be killing mislynch targets as a hostile 3p, especially since I need other people to be lynched other than myself when all the mafia are dead? If this still doesn't convince you, then I hope my claim at the end of N2 will resolve things.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 02 2020 21:44 GMT
#1436
On November 03 2020 06:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 06:26 iamperfection wrote:
On November 03 2020 06:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Also FWIW, I intend to essentially claim my role at the end of N2, including what my 3p win condition is. At this point, I believe I can satisfy my condition while simultaneously being pro-town.

so according to you. You haven't visited anyone besides ticktcok because you were roleblocked correct?
Just for the record.


I wonder if hapa claims rb because I didn't die

No he is town you are town and both were rb.
Pretty sure dirk is town and mafia is softpushing him because theyvfear the 5 day thing. With mafia I think it was Grack but not sure it was him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 21:45 GMT
#1437
Like I understand paranoia to some extent, but to believe that I am an anti-town 3p, you have to believe that I willingly put myself in an unwinnable situation on my 3rd post of the game, because I am obviously the most natural lynch target if all the mafia are dead and the game is still going.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 02 2020 21:46 GMT
#1438
On November 03 2020 06:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Like I understand paranoia to some extent, but to believe that I am an anti-town 3p, you have to believe that I willingly put myself in an unwinnable situation on my 3rd post of the game, because I am obviously the most natural lynch target if all the mafia are dead and the game is still going.

It's unlikely because you claimed your shot and no seriam killer would do that ever.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 02 2020 21:49 GMT
#1439
Currently I am thinking Slam/Grack. If Slam flips town this will become a game because either rayn or yamato put themselces in such a great potition.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 02 2020 21:50 GMT
#1440
Anyway. I am now excoted to see what Dirk his thing will be.
I had a good night of sleep.
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