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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 03 2020 04:01 Hapahauli wrote: Did we ever resolve from Night 0 why the corruption counter went up? but me yamato ticktock and onegu all went so that would have raised it | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Dirk was responsible for Level 1. I am referring to the increase from Level 1 to Level 2. AFAIK, I don't think we ever got a complete list of who claimed to visit the Database on Night 0. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 03 2020 04:07 iamperfection wrote: but me yamato ticktock and onegu all went so that would have raised it Ah, got it. Nevermind that. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 03 2020 04:07 Hapahauli wrote: Dirk was responsible for Level 1. I am referring to the increase from Level 1 to Level 2. AFAIK, I don't think we ever got a complete list of who claimed to visit the Database on Night 0. On November 01 2020 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alakaslam (no) Tictock Koshi (no) Raynpelikoneet (no) Yamato77 (yes) Iamperfection (yes) Hapahauli (roleblocked, so no) Grackaroni (no) Onegu Dirkzor (no) Acrofales (confirmed no) ShoCkeyy (no) [/QUOTE] | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
On October 30 2020 16:41 Dirkzor wrote: To be fair your buried your acro "case" in a the last paragraph in a very long post. I do think acro is also a but scummy, but not as much as grack. After reading his acros filter i stumbled upon one of his very first posts: Why ask to Koshi? He have posted once and that was his /in. No reason to think he was here. Myself and ray had just posted before game start so make sense... but not Koshi. Posts like this come from someone who knows Acro is mafia and is already looking to imply that Koshi is his partner. There's absolutely no reason to ping that post as town. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
I don't see town looking through a filter and seeing that as the most pertinent information worth quoting. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 03 2020 04:30 Grackaroni wrote: The idea is that people will think Acro is trying to include his scum buddy (Koshi) even though he hadn't posted yet. I don't see town looking through a filter and seeing that as the most pertinent information worth quoting. I think the simplest explanation is that Acro included all europeans in his post and dirkzor just failed to see that. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 03 2020 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: 1.Iamperfection 2. Hapahauli 3. Grackaroni 4. Onegu 5. Dirkzor 6. Acrofales (mafia) 7. ShoCkeyy 8. Alakaslam 9. Tictock 10. Koshi 11. Raynpelikoneet 12. Yamato77 now who gets lynched who is not mafia in each thread? maybe shockeyy was the assumed scapegoat in the second thread. Maybe acrofales was the only mafia in first thread? I wouldnt bank on onegu/grack 1v1 and you definitely dont want to lynch yourself and you cannot pretty much lynch anyone out of iamp/hapa/dirk. This is really interesting, and I think it heavily discounts the Onegu mafia theory. If you are Acro and set up the threads in this way, who is the mislynch target in 1-6? Onegu and Grack are the only realistic mislynch targets here. Acro doesn't really attempt to push Grack at all, and instead pushes Onegu and Shockeyy for most of the day. So we have to believe that Onegu and Acro had a plan to bus each other hard for town cred (unlikely, given how inactive Onegu was and generally is), or that Acro's motivations have more face-value to them. The other thing that sticks out to me is Acro's attempt to goad me into shooting Onegu: On October 30 2020 03:35 Acrofales wrote: If so shoot onegu. On October 30 2020 03:46 Acrofales wrote: He has no intention to play the game. I know onegu is often like this, but more likely he is *completely* useless when scum. He is now *completely* useless and I don't want to waste time, thought or effort on him. So having a self-claimed 3p shoot him seems like a neat solution! And then when he flips scum, you are super unlikely to be scum with him, and it is also less likely you have some weird cultist crap. Could still be SK, but that sounds easy to deal with. Now I was Roleblocked (seemingly by mafia), so this may have been an "empty" play by Acro. However, if Acro seriously thinks I have KP, and he successfully "convinces" me into shooting Onegu, mafia is committed to Roleblock me for the rest of the game. I am inclined to take Acro's words at face value once again - mafia generally don't goad third parties into shooting scumbuddies. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
1) Acro never put any serious heat on Grack, and; 2) Grack had some minor suspicions on him throughout the early game, but none of them really stuck. Does that line up with your interpretation of the game prior to Acro's flip? | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On November 03 2020 02:04 Hapahauli wrote: Honestly, the more I read TT's filter, the more I reallllly regret shooting him. Yeah you should have shot me... | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
Surely just lie about your vote no to waste time? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 03 2020 05:27 iamperfection wrote: for both grack and onegu why did they lynch their partner then if mafia ? Surely just lie about your vote no to waste time? just for the cred because acros role is bad ? eh i dont think so | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 03 2020 05:27 iamperfection wrote: for both grack and onegu why did they lynch their partner then if mafia ? Surely just lie about your vote no to waste time? Let's look at the hypothetical scenario of "scum-Grack" where the declared votes in-thread are: Acro (5): Hapa, Grack, Shockeyy, Onegu, Dirkzor Onegu (1): Acro ... in the 5 vote scenario, it doesn't matter what a "scumbuddy" does - Acro still dies, making the scummer's action a moot issue. I believe this is what everyone thought the vote-count was going into the lynch. Now let's play the 4 vote scenario with "Scum-Grack" with how the vote count actually played out. Acro (4): Hapa, Grack, Onegu, Dirkzor Dirk (1): Shockeyy Onegu (1): Acro If Dirk swaps his vote to create a no lynch, the effect is the following: 1) Acro is confirmed mafia; 2) Shockeyy is confirmed town. 3) Exactly 1 mafia is in the group of "Hapa/Grack/Onegu/Dirk", which means that 0-3 players can be confirmed town if that mafia dies. I don't think that is a great outcome for mafia. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
However, I do not believe Grack is clear. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
Also if there is another gun you really should shoot me. The next day you still lynch and then I stop all kills for a cycle if I dont immediately sacrifice myself it is a scum claim and you react accordingly | ||
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