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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 02 2020 16:52 GMT
#1308
On November 03 2020 01:43 Onegu wrote:
Also no idea why we aren't looking at people who were in the other thread. Unless shockky/ IAMp are red there is a scum there 100%. Also since 12 players and we are assuming to believe hapas 3p claim there are normally going to be 3 scum in a game like this. So if we assume 3 scum there is only a 50% chance there is another in the group who stayed in this thread... And 100% there is at least 1 and 50% there is more...


I think I've been over this... it was really a good post of mine.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 02 2020 17:50 GMT
#1349
Rayn im trying to to the same you are. Who was Acros target to lynch in his grp. He was trying to lynch Onegu. Shocks as an afterthought. If you look at the timestamps his case on shocks came just 5 minutes after shocks first post about the "gotcha" move.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 31 2020 02:53 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I didn't go to the database. What I find even more odd is the fact that Acro says this:

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote:
Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something?

Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together.

@Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here.

@dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo.

I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon.


Why the fuck should I not be here Acro??? DID YOU TRY TO SHOOT ME LAST NIGHT?

On October 31 2020 02:58 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, I think we lynch shockeyy.

Strike 1: the "I'm too busy to play, but look, I'm posting" thing, and his little spat about what it means to be analytical.

He prides himself on being analytical:

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:40 iamperfection wrote:
I'm very confused

i am asking him of any reads at all, because there is 10 pages of content, and i dont personally feel like shockeyy is "analytical" as he claims.


yea 10 pages of noise data.

What is an analytical person?
What is an analytical person? An analytical person wants to gather and consider information at length before making a big decision. Even in small choices, they will tend to look to the numbers or data for guidance, rather than making an off-the-cuff choice.


If you're truly say I'm not analytical, then I don't think you know what it actually meant.


But then he goes:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 04:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I also don't mind letting iamperfection visit the database alone, no one else, i trust him 100%.

This didn't blip on my first read through, as I think lamp is town too. But 100% is a bit much for early in the game. shockeyy claims to need *lots* of data to give any kind of read. And about 24 hours later, he claims Iamp is 100% town. An analytical townie should need more data. Shockeyy is *not* an analytical townie. Town sentiment at the time was trusting of lamp, so mafia just following town sentiment and shmoozing lamp is a safe move.

Strike 2: lying and shmoozing.

And then there's the weird lying about his role thingy. Not sure what that means, but it's another dose of lying, which is a third strike: you're out!

##vote shockeyy

Oh, and I filtered onegu too. I have never read a filter more devoid of anything interesting. John Cage's 4"33 has more content than that filter. I'd like to lynch 2 people from this side of the game, but unfortunately I didn't get a triple lynch ability, so my vote is for shockeyy who is actually scummy rather than just a blank void.



But he also pointed out Onegu. And then ended up voting for him.

Havent looked at the other thread.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 02 2020 17:57 GMT
#1354
but we arent voting on the 4 for lynch. it for mayor who decides lynch. So 4 town for mayor seems good? Noone have claimed changing it to mayorlynch tho
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 02 2020 18:01 GMT
#1358
On November 03 2020 01:43 Onegu wrote:
Also no idea why we aren't looking at people who were in the other thread. Unless shockky/ IAMp are red there is a scum there 100%. Also since 12 players and we are assuming to believe hapas 3p claim there are normally going to be 3 scum in a game like this. So if we assume 3 scum there is only a 50% chance there is another in the group who stayed in this thread... And 100% there is at least 1 and 50% there is more...

I still think Onegu is scum.

So i read this like Onegu and Acro bussed the hell out of eachother and now Onegu is trying to get us to lynch in the other grp since he is under suspicion.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 07:43 GMT
#1481
Maybe he is trying to say he have a scumtell on koshi because "antagonistic to people trying to build trust and consensus." "His posts read as smug... and that's a general scumtell in my book."

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 11:51 GMT
#1494
Lol nice...

So it isnt the planeteer thingy thats making the vote apparently.

A vote for me is a vote for town! Dirkzor 2020 MLGA :D
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 13:22 GMT
#1500
Im soon home from work
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 14:08 GMT
#1524
I don't really care who is voted Mayor (unless that some 3p win con, now that i think about it). I care who we lynch and the person voted mayor will do what town wants.

My scum reads are still Onegu, Grack and Slam (prolly in that order)

On November 02 2020 20:05 Onegu wrote:
Ok Claim time. So my role has the same name as a role from the first aperture game. But isnt the same. So some form of anti claim mechanics are usually in a game like this so I wont give full info but someone who does the work can figure it out maybe

I dont have full info and I am inferring alot fwiw based on my role currently and what the role was before.

Someone picked up a gun that got sent to the other thread. I dont know if they got told they found a gun with a bullet and that is all or if it has powers. It may or may not work how they think.

My role currently and why I am claiming now and not before. I am a vet. When I am shot I power up with something very strong for town that I have to sacrifice myself. TBH thinking on it I should have claimed this right away but I wanted to get shot, I know scum will never shoot me so I needed a vigi to and if I claimed sooner I didnt think they would trust my claim or think I am lying. Claiming now maybe someone sees it, believes me and shoots me. I am kinda hoping someone who wouldnt trust me has already shot me and wont see this.

Onegus claim just doesnt add up. And besides his claim i don't see any effort. His claim is this + Show Spoiler +
Welcome to Aperture Mafia! You are the Godsend. If you die, you are revived at the start of the next day (This happens at most one times). At any point after this, you my sacrifice your soul to prevent all deaths that day/night cycle by typing ##Self-Sacrifice. Sacrificing yourself will send the game immediately to night, skipping the lynch. The town will not be told that deaths will be prevented. You win with the town.
btw. Why, not just post everything (including name), if he gives the info to easily find the role anyway? Its just sooo... "I'm town because i claim a role previous held by a town, i wont tell you what role since im afraid of scum, but you can find it right here."


"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 14:11 GMT
#1526
On November 03 2020 22:57 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 01:43 Onegu wrote:
Also no idea why we aren't looking at people who were in the other thread. Unless shockky/ IAMp are red there is a scum there 100%. Also since 12 players and we are assuming to believe hapas 3p claim there are normally going to be 3 scum in a game like this. So if we assume 3 scum there is only a 50% chance there is another in the group who stayed in this thread... And 100% there is at least 1 and 50% there is more...

-poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops-


I agree this was bad. I posted the same thing earlier. He also forgot to add that with Acro flip we have way more info in the main thread compared to off-thread. He also happens to be in the main thread and pointing we should lynch in off-thread
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 14:15 GMT
#1529
Imo lynching in either thread is fine. Main thread because we have way more info due to acro flip. Off thread because we can reasonable be sure there is 1 mafia. So pushing the idea of lynching in the off thread while you yourself being under suspicion - thats what i find suspicions.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 14:16 GMT
#1530
But i can see a Slam/Onegu scum team.

On November 03 2020 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 09:13 yamato77 wrote:
On November 03 2020 07:51 Alakaslam wrote:
TT flip matters a lot. What I read so far didn’t really seem illuminating to me at all.

Obviously can’t vote yama for mayor so Rayn gets my vote.

My role is expendable at this point. At least, stuff would have to happen to make me useful.

-poops-

“I know, I’ll vote for the dude who says I should be lynched!”

Obviously I can’t vote you.

Anyway.

Now that I am back at my teaching job and life is cool.

Iamp is lock town.
Hapa is more questionable than he was.
Onegu is general onegu which is similar to myself. Not a lot of time to play so low quality play in general. Makes it easier for scum to hide. If Iamp hadn’t been so quick to jump down my throat, his statements on Onegu would sway me.

Yama is clearly town.
My read on Koshi largely depends on how TT flips.
Rayn is obvious town to me.
Grackaroni is way in the background. Scum lean.
ShoCkeyy is too complex for me to disbelieve right now. Kill him if he lasts long.

Dirkzor is town IMO.

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 14:17 GMT
#1532
I'm voting myself for mayor btw.

I'll lynch whoever town agrees on, and if we cant agree i'll lynch Onegu.

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 15:46 GMT
#1567
Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

Now bold away and spell your way to freedom
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 18:37 GMT
#1661
On November 04 2020 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i agree that i probably look like shit after this, but i want to kill hapa because he is not being honest. most of the people may not see it. it's okay, i dont even think we NEED to kill hapa. i want all the town win and not some smuggy 3p's who are shit. hapa is a smuggy 3p and we are in a good position to have 1 mafia dead and no towns so far.

call me scummy for trying to sway the lynch away from mafia idc. another thing is that i wanna see TT flip before i decide if to lynch slam or not, and hapa being very not town gave me a chance to try.

Then lets lynch onegu.

I think this game is very much solved and over (at least town vs. mafia - 3p might be another issue that i cant figure out atm)

I think rayn have this feeling too and is worried he is being screwed over getting paranoid
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 18:39 GMT
#1663
I think basicly it all town arguing between themselves at this point. Our finest job is to just stay the course and dont fuck it up. Which you are doing rayn.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 18:46 GMT
#1668
On November 04 2020 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 03:39 Dirkzor wrote:
I think basicly it all town arguing between themselves at this point. Our finest job is to just stay the course and dont fuck it up. Which you are doing rayn.

hi do you need hapa dead in order to win?

Well, maybe. I need town win to win. So that depends on Hapa's win con i guess. I just don't happen to agree with you.

I don't know what hapa is up to. Be i have had a solid town read on him all game (despite his claim). He thinks like i do and does what i do/want to do.

But im fealing super confident about Onegu/Slam that i think, for now, its a non issue and will only muddy the water by dragging town through it.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 18:52 GMT
#1670
Lets reach consensus on lynch to we have something to hold against yamato just in case.

I want an Onegu lynch.

Others?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 18:55 GMT
#1672
Who do you want then iamp?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 19:02 GMT
#1680
Leaving game? What did i miss? FIlter check brb
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 19:42 GMT
#1699
Rayn you arent making sense. If the scum team is Hapa, Iamp and acro, acro couldnt have made the groups he did. THat would mean 3v3 in main thread.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
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