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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2020 02:51 GMT
#1081
Well it sounds like you're going.

If you're really worried about roleblock I'm still not doing anything tonight. I'm not sure that mafia can reliably count on nobody else going to prioritize role blocking you. There are probably enough wildcards between 3rd party and independent minded townies.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 02 2020 02:54 GMT
#1082
On November 02 2020 11:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Well it sounds like you're going.

If you're really worried about roleblock I'm still not doing anything tonight. I'm not sure that mafia can reliably count on nobody else going to prioritize role blocking you. There are probably enough wildcards between 3rd party and independent minded townies.

does it sound like im going ?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 02 2020 03:02 GMT
#1083
If this is your way of promoting your database plan I don't recommend it.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 02 2020 03:03 GMT
#1084
Hopefully mafia grants me the sweet release of death.


1.Iamperfection – confirmed town


2. Hapahauli – absolutely 3p consider killing late game if still alive. I don’t see him making a 3p claim the way he did as scum. If he does something anti town like visit the data base kill him and cite this post. If he argues just quote this section over and over again.

3. Grackaroni - almost as useless as onegu somehow. Null slightly scumish dumb town tell look it up. fairly confident about review later if you have to.

4. Onegu – kill

5. Dirkzor – slightly townish for reasons he was a bit brash early making think town but not a super strong read. I wouldn’t be shocked if turned out to be scum. Especially if god forbid acro is town somehow. His vote post off of onegu doesn’t make any sense to me and his role is obviously anti town by raising the level. If the so called reward/hint is shit I would take a long look at lynching him.

6. Acrofales – he will flip scum…. For my sanity I hope

7. ShoCkeyy – I don’t know very confusing. The needing to post to say he was busy but to stick around with small heat was scummy I believe his claim he swapped which we saw me missing kp

8. Alakaslam – the scum haven’t posted comment struck me as weird but most of his posts I find strange well played fake sob story if scum. His argument about he didn’t have to reveal he didn’t vote is slightly wifom but probably town I would say

9. Tictock – kill

10. Koshi – high energy but no real scum reads that I remember ?????? wouldn’t be shocked if scum pretty null on him

11. Raynpelikoneet – town large activity, trying to figure things out. Some posts struck me as weird but I don’t care if he is scum he can win. He has to be town as hes the only one really playing with me ☹.

12. Yamato77- scumish –hasn’t contributed in a meaningful way. The anger seemed real but I think that could come from either alignment so it doesn’t get him any town points. Came on strong at the end of night looking like town but his play since has been just like his last post I saw poop. Null slightly scumish

Also the plan is for rayn to go to database as we discussed. Anyone else going or caught going is a scum claim no if ands or buts i don't care if you didnt read you die. If you have an ability that lowers corruption in some way check with greymist when the lowering would happen. For example if the next night the corruption is at 3 somehow and you reduce it to 2 would that lower or weaken the kp before or after the kp for that night? Basically ask when your ability happens with regards to other effects.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 02 2020 03:49 GMT
#1085
-runs-
Writer@WriterYamato
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 02 2020 05:27 GMT
#1086
I am here I will make one post tonight.

I will not visit the database tonight no benefit like there was n0.

@koshi I visited you in the database. I asked a question I got a answer. Have you completed any of your victory modifiers?
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 02 2020 05:30 GMT
#1087
Oh last thing. I KNOW THERE IS A GUN IN THE GAME! BWAHAHAHAHA!
Try TL Mafia!!!
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 02 2020 06:10 GMT
#1088
On October 30 2020 07:40 yamato77 wrote:
Trusting Dirk is difficult for me. The aware miller-ish aspect adds a layer of strangeness to what is already quite a convoluted role. If anything his post seems to be focused mainly on keeping himself alive for a vague promise of maybe helping town in 5 cycles, which is a long time. This sounds more like an actual survivor claim than any "actually town but may appear 3p" like he said. I don't think he's telling the 100% truth. Then again, the precedent in this very game is to hide one's own power level, so to speak, so I don't exactly think that means he's mafia. Another great candidate to check with the Library.

I don't think we should be asking about what corruption will do when we have so many claims to evaluate. Perhaps if it increases to 2 we could see what would happen at 3 but right now at 1 there's not much point if I read the OP correctly.

Rayn's return to the thread has been less than inspiring. Among a litany of list posts his seems mostly aimed at staying stuck in his reads he made hours ago and dismissing anything that has happened since. That said he is no stranger to confirmation bias so it's not particularly alignment indicative for him to not have developed further.

What's hilarious about this is that I actually find myself agreeing with him about the corruption level now that I think about it. I might choose to go myself and gain some information. I don't think I'm going to take any action involving my role as it exists now. That may change later on, because I don't know much about my role!

I didn't realize a different mini actually had multiple scum teams, but the OP reads as if there's only one (especially given the stated 1 KP) so until I have reason to believe otherwise I am going to play under that assumption. I don't see much merit in speculating about the two scum team theory.

I already stated why I take Hapa's claim at face value and dismissing that read because it looks like buddying is absurd. If I am indeed mafia, why would I buddy with a competing alignment? If we were both mafia, why would we need to "buddy up"? Rayn's reasoning here is obviously flawed, and as he himself admitted he has too many scumreads for them all to co-exist.

Shockey's list post was particularly awful. It is early sure but that was a series of thin one-liners that displayed a lack of critical thought about the game, especially as it pertains to me. I have not refused to cooperate with anyone. I have stated how I wanted to play the game and I have done so. Rayn's meta-defense of my scumread of Shockey for his posting leaves me less than enthused if this is what I should expect from a player who thinks they are analytical. Rayn's seeming certainty of Shockey's alignment is unsettling, to say the least. I have to assume knowledge outside of the thread, and the withholding of that knowledge is inherently anti-town in my opinion.

There are a lot of players in this game I don't have much of an opinion on because of their sparse, conversational and interaction based posting. Grack seems to be solely reactive. Onegu, likewise, seems to be mostly reactive outside of his claim. Ticktock's posting appeared rather bland and inoffensive, but was more substantive in comparison.

One person I absolutely do not care for is Acro. He is hyper-focused on Hapa's claim to a fault. His comments on anything outside of that since the early parts of the game are sparse. He wrote a whole bunch of nothing about my spat with Rayn and has followed up on literally nothing except his evaluation of a single 3p claim. This fixation is something that appears genuine, but could easily come from mafia. I do not trust him.

-eats carrot-
-poops-
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 02 2020 06:14 GMT
#1089
On November 02 2020 07:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I think dirk is mafia.

-sniffs-
-poops-
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 02 2020 06:16 GMT
#1090
On November 02 2020 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyhow 5hrs to work.

I think Koshi started as a lion (that i would expect him to) and devolved to a house cat *meow*. He needs to step up. I still think TT is mafia. Be wary of Koshi. yamato has fallen off earth. Slam is prolly town. Onegu who knows. haha.. i dont even know anything tbh. dont kill iamp or shockeyy.

-sniffs-
-licks fondly-
-runs-
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 02 2020 06:20 GMT
#1091
On November 02 2020 05:56 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2020 05:49 Koshi wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote:
My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:

TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam
Slam (1) - Koshi
NoVote (1) - TicTock

Is this correct?

Crap I forgot that

I was unable to PM until later.

I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?

WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.

Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron

The chance they are both mafia is so small. Bigger chance they are both town by a mile or 4.

I am yet to hear the big Koshi mafia case. The one that he is so sure of and makes sense even if it doesnt, and i can see he believes in it.

Hmm? I dont follow.

Also disclaimer: I forgot to vote. I really thought I did but there is a big chance I didnt. I also thought day would last till tomorrow. Oops.

-sniffs-
-poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops-
Writer@WriterYamato
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 02 2020 07:59 GMT
#1092
wtf is going on with you people. Now i remember why i stopped playing. Most aren't even trying to play. they just fool around thinking that its their time only that they use.

My my sake we can lynch Yamato, onegu, TT, slam and onegu just for being useless/lazy/not even trying. I don't even care if they are town anymore.

Can you use actually sentences yamato? you're supposed to be the writer. write what the fuck you mean.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 02 2020 08:00 GMT
#1093
On November 02 2020 14:27 Onegu wrote:
I am here I will make one post tonight.

I will not visit the database tonight no benefit like there was n0.

@koshi I visited you in the database. I asked a question I got a answer. Have you completed any of your victory modifiers?

Not sure if I should answer a potential scummer. But no. As far as I know I dont even have them.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 02 2020 08:06 GMT
#1094
Hmm wonder if yamato is seriously trying to push the idea I am mafia or that it is somehow bad for town that I didnt vote on a person that would never get lynched.

It not something to be proud of but 100% NAI.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 02 2020 08:07 GMT
#1095
On November 02 2020 16:59 Dirkzor wrote:
wtf is going on with you people. Now i remember why i stopped playing. Most aren't even trying to play. they just fool around thinking that its their time only that they use.

My my sake we can lynch Yamato, onegu, TT, slam and onegu just for being useless/lazy/not even trying. I don't even care if they are town anymore.

Can you use actually sentences yamato? you're supposed to be the writer. write what the fuck you mean.

Just enjoy the game as it is. And adapt.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 02 2020 08:08 GMT
#1096
Also for the record. Why do I need scumreads in this game?

It was obvious:
Kill acro
Kill Slam in group 2 due to least value to town

Now:
Kill Onegu
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 02 2020 08:11 GMT
#1097
I mean well thought out many words typed about them scumreads. Things are going fine.

I only apologize for not backing my homie TTTTT more yesterday.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 02 2020 08:12 GMT
#1098
Anyway. Remember Koshi loves you all.
I had a good night of sleep.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 02 2020 08:31 GMT
#1099
I tried to figure out who pushed the idea of KP going to +1 instead of just "more powerful". It seems to have just sorta materialized by its own. So i don't think anyone on any side knew/know what the actually change will be. Was hoping to catch someone there.

either way, i think "more powerful" does not mean +1 kp. I think a 2 KP mafia side in a 12 player game (even if its only later in game) is too overpowered. What it means, i have no clue. I'm not that strong in roles and it being a greymist game makes it even harder to guess.

My best lynch right now would be onegu. I don't like his claim. Considering my own role (and a read through of older aperture roles) his own claim seems so underwhelming. I got the ability you have already seen AND a night action. Onegu have nothing until he gets an item? There must be something more. Maybe my role is the odd one out but who knows.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 02 2020 08:31 GMT
#1100
I am not going to the database
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
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