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On November 01 2020 04:37 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2020 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:
There's no reason why Koshi would never ever be mafia in this game. What does this even mean? its mean absolutely nothing. No one in this game would never ever be mafia. (beside oneself). This is what i mean. You don't try enough. Its just so much nonsense (most of the time). Show nested quote +On November 01 2020 01:58 Grackaroni wrote:I had to take a detour to read the wall of Grack. On October 30 2020 04:21 Dirkzor wrote:
Grack is most likely scum. Not that many posts. Just enough to not be at the bottom. No real follow through on anything. He don't like my claim but doesnt do anything with it beside stating it. Why not push me if you think im a liar. Your push on me seems to have started when I called out your claim to begin with, and now when I mention it again you're complaining that it's unoriginal and people have already talked about it lol. I understand why people are null/scum on me for not contributing but then you start coloring people as scum by association with me. What kind of response did you expect people to give about me. On October 30 2020 04:50 Dirkzor wrote:Actually. The more i read shockeys filter the more i think a Grack + Shockey scum team fits. slight mafia lean
grack - i think it's easy to look town with how Grack posts, while still being mafia, so i'm null.. Its like what? is it a mafie lean or a null? Reads to me like you wanted to bus your teammate just a little by putting him under slight mafia and then couldnt think of a thing that makes him scum so you wrote null... You also called him town and scum in the same sentence. You have zero interaction with grack and vice versa Soon going to bed. On October 30 2020 05:25 Dirkzor wrote:On October 30 2020 05:10 Onegu wrote:On October 30 2020 04:59 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Interesting that both Dirk and Onegu decided to claim I'm mafia at the same time : )
Also it seems like Grack and I are never around at the same time which is why there's never discussion between us. I have a slight scum read on grack, but that doesn't mean I need to claim he's mafia. I don't know who the fuck is mafia just yet which is why he's also a null. Like I personally don't think there's a problem having some one on null/mafia lean in a list. The first part of this is laughably bad. When 2 people call you scum doesnt even matter. Do you think we are both scum and said in our QT hey lets say shockeyy is scum in 10. 9. 8. 7. 6. 5. 4. 3. 2. 1. The second part I have no idea about. Dont care about grack as I havent seen him say anything about me... Why dont you care about grack? even if he havent said anything about you, caring about him figuring out his alignment is important yes? Also i agree that 2 people posting at the same time would be weird as scum. But you jumping on my (and others) scum read is not... On October 30 2020 16:29 Dirkzor wrote:
If i die tonight i think you should get rid of grack.
twice he have called my claim sus without really doing anything with it. Trying to build pressure without taking responsibility. And rest of posting are just sort of there.
I could do more to try to lynch you. From what I recall from the thread I was the one that gave your claim the most trouble. I think Koshi thought it was non-town as well in the other thread but that came later. On October 31 2020 23:57 Dirkzor wrote:
I still think grack is out best lynch followed by onegu at this point. Hopefully i get around to make a real case on grack later. For now lets just say he havent done anything. He promised a filterdive that never came. He pushes only a little bit but never for reals (my claim and also in the shocks/acro case). His post with colors is just soo over the top to me.
@other thread: you going to no lynch or what is the plan? What are your thoughts on grack as a lynch here? I hope you get to that case on me Dirkzor because I want you to be better. We wouldn't want somebody trying to build pressure for a lynch without taking responsibility. @other thread. Could you give me some reasons for lynching Dirkzor? This is so much bull. You can't use my word and turn them around. Thats not how this works. You didnt give my claim trouble. You posted 2 times: one that i was 3rd party with my own agenda and what can be summed down to "hmm" with fancy colors. Thats not giving me trouble. + Show Spoiler +On October 30 2020 01:25 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2020 01:18 iamperfection wrote:
The counter is at 1 anyways everyone could go tonight no? We could theoretically. It might make sense if we think Mafia have better actions than town but it's kind of hard to check who actually goes from the options available. Maybe you could make everybody visit the person above/below them and check whether they have a role that was in a previous aperture game. With that option I think you could at least potentially catch some people lying. On October 30 2020 10:16 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know why people would trust the Dirkzor claim.
Press the SPACE TIME DESTABILIZATION in thread to get a powerful ability in 5 phases times. Also you return 3rd party/non-town to checks.
hmmm.... I will give my shockey/grack moment was a bit of an overreach. But i wanted to see what came of it. But, as i wrote in a separate post, your whole: "I dont know mafia KP mechanics" sorta gives you a saving grace for now. I don't think mafia would fake not knowing their own abilities.
Rayn said in the other thread that Koshi was never ever mafia in this game and I was just responding to that. Although I will admit that I also really enjoy posting nonsense. I'm in the process of making a reads list now. I'm not one to usually make lots of early reads unless there's something that really pings me on way or the other, so I tend to do a lot of shit posting to whatever I see in the thread early on.
Your claim being suspicious has been pretty much the only read I'd posted in D0/N0. I think it's pretty clear why I think it's suspicious.
On October 30 2020 00:18 Grackaroni wrote:
It seems like Dirkzor is pretty clearly third party but needed to destabilize in the thread to setup for his win condition. I think he knew that he would be a likely check and wanted to preempt that by just telling us he'd return as 3rd party/non-town.
On October 30 2020 10:16 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know why people would trust the Dirkzor claim.
Press the SPACE TIME DESTABILIZATION in thread to get a powerful ability in 5 phases times. Also you return 3rd party/non-town to checks.
hmmm....
When I mentioned while doing my reread that you also started out being cautious about what the next level of corruption would do and then came into the thread looking to catch 3rd parties and you lashed out at me for mentioning it again. And what I said was pretty blatantly different from what Hapa said.
Using people's words and turning them around on them is kind of how mafia works. If you're bothered that I'm not putting enough effort or that I'm casting suspicion on your claim I understand that. For what it's worth I don't think my dumb tell is worth removing me from the lynch pool. I could easily be lying about what I do/don't know.
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Back to my attempt at sleuthing.
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Why Does Koshi and Dirk both keep questioning my claim?
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Iamperfection - Active thread presence/general townie vibes. Tried to clear me twice now so that's always a plus.
Yamato I think Yamato comes off pretty well so far. His frustration with Rayn brushing off his ShoCkkey posts because Rayn knows better seems genuine and I like the way he's pushing his reads.
Rayn Rayn has at least seemed confident in his read on ShoCkkey and seems to be in the process of writing some people off as town, which to me is a good sign for him as opposed to him just burying someone. I don't think he's cleared himself by any means but it doesn't seem like he's pushing a scum agenda at the moment.
ShoCkkey - I'm wavering a lot on this one. His list post was pretty atrocious and it was pretty much the only thing he posted that had anything to do with people's alignments. He gives a read on Dirkzor without even reading his claim, and what's the point of writing out a list if you don't have much to say to begin with.
We don't really have enough information to know what happened with the kill. It's possible ShoCkkey just bussed himself with Iamp to avoid checks and freaked out when it was visible from the actions that he did that so he started ranting about catching Acro with his pants down.
Hapahauli - He pinged the right posts if Acrofales is mafia. I think his filter is pretty lackluster compared to his norm. I don't see any reason for lynching him today and it seems like nobody else does either.
Dirkzor. I think his claim points heavily towards being 3rd party and he's been fixated on getting rid of me for not trying hard enough to lynch him during day 0. I could definitely try harder.
Acrofales I think the case he made on ShoCkkey was really bad. It was a huge reach to take that ShoCkkey called himself an analytical player and use that to say that he was too confident in having a town read on the player that everyone in the thread was town reading. I was also considering sending only Iamp as a potentially good option at one point, but I don't think I ended up saying it.
I think he dropped off quite a bit from the start of the game and he is guilty of playing thread cop like Hapa said. I did like his response though to why he was writing me off earlier.
On October 31 2020 02:10 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2020 01:58 Grackaroni wrote:On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote:
Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something?
Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together.
@Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here.
@dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo.
I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon. I think it's a bit suspicious that Acro is sticking with his town read on me based off volunteering to go to the database when lots of other players did so afterwords including both Onegu and ShoCkkey. I haven't made any effort at all to analyze posts yet. I'm going to start filter diving tonight. My read wasn't off the volunteering, it was off the speed at which you volunteered. By the time onegu and shockeyy came in, plenty of time had passed for scum to come up with a plan to deal with the database and corruption, but you volunteered early and that struck me. Anyway, reading some filters.
I'm not nearly as confident as other people in the Acro lynch (it seems like he's close to universally scum read) but I don't think it's a bad lynch at the moment.
Onegu - playing anti-town and proud of it. Chose to go to the database without consulting people because Onegu won't be told what to do. Could easily be either alignment, but he's earned the red name all the same.
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I wanted to give a read on Koshi/Slam/TT but I couldn't make a decision. Definitely a hard lynch for the other side.
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Consider myself as a ##Vote: Acrofales at the moment.
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I am still voting Acro.
By my count, we have four votes on Acro: Myself, Grack, Dirk
Acro is voting Onegu.
We do not have positions from Onegu or Shockeyy (although, Shockeyy seemingly thinks Acro is mafia).
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Eh. Was out all day. Probably won't be in tomorrow either. Dealing with the plumbing in my new house going to shit is basically taking all my free time. I'm town, but I'll be better next game.
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On November 01 2020 07:46 Hapahauli wrote:
I am still voting Acro.
By my count, we have four votes on Acro: Myself, Grack, Dirk
Acro is voting Onegu.
We do not have positions from Onegu or Shockeyy (although, Shockeyy seemingly thinks Acro is mafia).
Thats some impressive counting skills there...
We need shocks on acro to get the 4 we need. Onegu is mia so dont count on him.
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Greetings I am here. I was going to say I got kicked out of the game but I just felt like shit and took my breakthrough pain meds and was worthless.
Ill vote acro as that is what the post above this is telling me to.
So ##Vote: Acro
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On November 01 2020 06:14 Grackaroni wrote:Iamperfection - Active thread presence/general townie vibes. Tried to clear me twice now so that's always a plus. Yamato I think Yamato comes off pretty well so far. His frustration with Rayn brushing off his ShoCkkey posts because Rayn knows better seems genuine and I like the way he's pushing his reads. Rayn Rayn has at least seemed confident in his read on ShoCkkey and seems to be in the process of writing some people off as town, which to me is a good sign for him as opposed to him just burying someone. I don't think he's cleared himself by any means but it doesn't seem like he's pushing a scum agenda at the moment. ShoCkkey - I'm wavering a lot on this one. His list post was pretty atrocious and it was pretty much the only thing he posted that had anything to do with people's alignments. He gives a read on Dirkzor without even reading his claim, and what's the point of writing out a list if you don't have much to say to begin with. We don't really have enough information to know what happened with the kill. It's possible ShoCkkey just bussed himself with Iamp to avoid checks and freaked out when it was visible from the actions that he did that so he started ranting about catching Acro with his pants down. Hapahauli - He pinged the right posts if Acrofales is mafia. I think his filter is pretty lackluster compared to his norm. I don't see any reason for lynching him today and it seems like nobody else does either. Dirkzor. I think his claim points heavily towards being 3rd party and he's been fixated on getting rid of me for not trying hard enough to lynch him during day 0. I could definitely try harder. Acrofales I think the case he made on ShoCkkey was really bad. It was a huge reach to take that ShoCkkey called himself an analytical player and use that to say that he was too confident in having a town read on the player that everyone in the thread was town reading. I was also considering sending only Iamp as a potentially good option at one point, but I don't think I ended up saying it. I think he dropped off quite a bit from the start of the game and he is guilty of playing thread cop like Hapa said. I did like his response though to why he was writing me off earlier. Show nested quote +On October 31 2020 02:10 Acrofales wrote:On October 31 2020 01:58 Grackaroni wrote:On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote:
Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something?
Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together.
@Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here.
@dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo.
I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon. I think it's a bit suspicious that Acro is sticking with his town read on me based off volunteering to go to the database when lots of other players did so afterwords including both Onegu and ShoCkkey. I haven't made any effort at all to analyze posts yet. I'm going to start filter diving tonight. My read wasn't off the volunteering, it was off the speed at which you volunteered. By the time onegu and shockeyy came in, plenty of time had passed for scum to come up with a plan to deal with the database and corruption, but you volunteered early and that struck me. Anyway, reading some filters. I'm not nearly as confident as other people in the Acro lynch (it seems like he's close to universally scum read) but I don't think it's a bad lynch at the moment. Onegu - playing anti-town and proud of it. Chose to go to the database without consulting people because Onegu won't be told what to do. Could easily be either alignment, but he's earned the red name all the same.
How was going anti town? It was pro town getting the most info on a day when for sure it was going up and I had nothing else to do as I am VT. I stand by my decision to go and I am sure it was the correct thing to do.
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Onegu, who is scum? And are you ok lynching acro or just doing so because of thread sentiment?
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Onegu: did you visit the database? What did you discover?
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onegu: remember to send vote to hosts. Voting in thread does not count.
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Here til the deadline (sorta, on my phone), for what good that'll do. I really am town and my role makes it 100%. Let me explain again. Koshi even pointed out his scum version of this and there's a big difference: he got to choose who went with him. That makes the scum flavor. Without that choice it's just really bad for scum. I didn't have that choice. That is confirmed in the thread. It was split 1-6 and 7-12, with shockeyy's busdriving swapping lamp and himself.
I haven't been playing well, and deserve to die. I can't even promise I'll have more time going forward as my plumbing problem isn't solved. But you lynch me and you lynch town.
Onegu is the scum on this side. I'm voting for him. If you need anything more from me, I am around for a bit.
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Shit. Well i dont think your role makes you 100% town whatever you try to say. You migth even have more then that ability. That said you post does seem real.
can change to onegu if people are around. Dont think they are tho. =/
Wont change vote as i think a lynch is important here unless evryone comfirms.
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Was looking at the other thread. I don't get why yamato I town there. Imho scum is in yamato/koshi/tt and onegu. Maybe slam as I can't make much sense of him. Koshi imho still scummiest over there. TT hasn't posted at all, so not a bad lynch either, but basically just a lurker at this point. Don't get a bad feeling from his posts.
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Yeahsmericans are sleeping. Gg.
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Night post will be here eventually, sorry
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