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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On October 30 2020 22:24 Acrofales wrote: Did you get notified you were roleblocked? Or did you deduce it from something not happening? I was notified that I was roleblocked in my Night 0 PM from the host. I was also notified that I was selected as a "planeteer". | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18262 Posts
On October 30 2020 22:25 Hapahauli wrote: Is the thread split your only ability? Yup. From now on I'm a VT. I can visit the DB or sit on my hands. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18262 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
I didn't go to the database the plan seemed unclear when I went to bed. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
 It should be obvious to post all votes clearly in the thread at the same time as sending the PM (im not against voting in thread and sending PM later just as long as its clearly written its a thread only vote or something) From a claims stand point these 5 have no claimed: Rayn (town with some ability with a ring - see planeteers maybe? (earlier claimed some shit that turned out to be a lie)) Hapa (Town with 3p wincon) Acrofales (Now VT town, former threadsplitter) Onegu (VT who lost an item and will then become blue) Shockey (Claim to best to go to database, then later claimed Doc) Myself (Town with a count down with but at a cost) Am i forgetting anyone? I cant keep track anymore. I dont know where im going with this actually... Anyway ##Vote Grackaroni (thread only for now) Lets see if we can lure him out with something. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2! You are the Dimensional Lemming! For some reason, when you rip open a hole in the fabric of reality, people just follow you. Once per game, you may choose any number of players, those players and yourself will be transferred to any finished game of mafia of your choosing. The rules and mechanics specific to that game will resume (to the host's discretion). The day post will announce that you and those players may only post in that thread and you and those players may not quote players from the main thread. Each universe will have a lynch. Players will be swapped back to the original game at the day’s end (the night cycle will occur in the same universe). Using this ability reduces Fate by 2. You are a member of Aperture Science On December 11 2012 07:13 Coagulation wrote: I kinda want to join but I hate games that have mindfucking mechanics. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
As mafia you get to choose who goes in what group to stack the lynches how you want them, and the mafia didn't get any NKs last night. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
I have stated my thoughts previously on him (confident reads on claims, "thread cop", etc.). Yamato also had some more eloquently worded thoughts (fixation on single subject) at the bottom of https://tl.net/forum/mafia/564724-aperture-mafia-4-episode-2?page=32. As some Belgian person in a super distant far away land may have said at some point in some other dimension said, it is difficult to believe that the hidden votes and the thread split are a coincidence. Mafia could well have known what the corruption counter does. Lastly, the grandstanding with his ability emphasizing that it confirms him as town is more likely to come from mafia. Double lynches may be pro-town in a sense. Thread-splitting is not. The history of the role in this game suggests that it is not a pro-town role. Acro, since you are apparently have no powers now, please full claim your role, including name, etc. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
I have been delving through past GreyMist games. To be fair to Acro, the "thread-splitting" role has been town in a past GM game (Catastrophe Mafia). Holyflare, the Deminsional Lemming, was killed! Welcome to Catastrophe Mafia! You are the Dimensional Lemming! For some reason, when you rip open a hole in the fabric of reality, the opposing world simply spills in. Once per game, at night, You may choose any finished game of mafia. The rules and mechanics specific to that game will also apply to this game for the following day (to the host's discretion). You win with the town. That however doesn't invalidate the point that this is not an objectively pro-town role. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
You were basing your reads off of reactions to it earlier. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On October 30 2020 23:37 Grackaroni wrote: Hapa why do you think people would be uncomfortable talking about your claim? You were basing your reads off of reactions to it earlier. Are you referring to this? On October 29 2020 03:42 Hapahauli wrote: To elaborate, he did the thing where mafia feels super uncomfortable to get into a discussion about a very chaotic topic (my claim), and instead of getting involved, addressed it in a super round-about way. Certain types of mafia players have trouble initiating or joining discussion. I'm not saying that all people would be uncomfortable talking about my claim. My point was that Slam's posting appeared to be uncomfortable and dismissive of the topic, hence mafia. However, my scumread on Slam is not as strong as it was last night. His posting seems very different in a very non-alignment indicative way from how I normally see him post. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On October 30 2020 23:41 Grackaroni wrote: If I understand correctly you think Slam wanted to push you but he felt uncomfortable talking about specifics so he had to address it in a round-about way? Basically. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
It looks like I'm the only player here who played in the original, so I have critical information about the lemons! | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote: Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something? Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together. @Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here. @dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo. I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon. I think it's a bit suspicious that Acro is sticking with his town read on me based off volunteering to go to the database when lots of other players did so afterwords including both Onegu and ShoCkkey. I haven't made any effort at all to analyze posts yet. I'm going to start filter diving tonight. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18262 Posts
On October 30 2020 23:18 Hapahauli wrote: EBWOP: I have been delving through past GreyMist games. To be fair to Acro, the "thread-splitting" role has been town in a past GM game (Catastrophe Mafia). That however doesn't invalidate the point that this is not an objectively pro-town role. I honestly didn't know it was used in a mafia mechanic, lol. Figures... greymist games are always weird with scum roles given to town and town roles to scum. Anyway, imho double lynch is super town favoured, if I were scum I would sit on it and never use it. And complain to the hosts about how shitty my role was. Lynches give amazing information, and double lynches give double the information. I see the thread separation ans a minor downside. We basically get double the vote analysis to do from a single day. Not quite sure how much more pro-town a role can get without being an innocent child. Anyway, someone asked for my name, I don't think it's safe to say. Is that info in the database? If it is, I'm happy to give it for doublechecking, but if that is "secret" then I'd rather not get rolename sniped by mafia. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18262 Posts
On October 31 2020 01:58 Grackaroni wrote: I think it's a bit suspicious that Acro is sticking with his town read on me based off volunteering to go to the database when lots of other players did so afterwords including both Onegu and ShoCkkey. I haven't made any effort at all to analyze posts yet. I'm going to start filter diving tonight. My read wasn't off the volunteering, it was off the speed at which you volunteered. By the time onegu and shockeyy came in, plenty of time had passed for scum to come up with a plan to deal with the database and corruption, but you volunteered early and that struck me. Anyway, reading some filters. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote: Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something? Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together. @Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here. @dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo. I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon. Why the fuck should I not be here Acro??? DID YOU TRY TO SHOOT ME LAST NIGHT? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18262 Posts
Strike 1: the "I'm too busy to play, but look, I'm posting" thing, and his little spat about what it means to be analytical. He prides himself on being analytical: On October 29 2020 02:44 ShoCkeyy wrote: yea 10 pages of noise data. What is an analytical person? What is an analytical person? An analytical person wants to gather and consider information at length before making a big decision. Even in small choices, they will tend to look to the numbers or data for guidance, rather than making an off-the-cuff choice. If you're truly say I'm not analytical, then I don't think you know what it actually meant. But then he goes: On October 30 2020 04:48 ShoCkeyy wrote: I also don't mind letting iamperfection visit the database alone, no one else, i trust him 100%. This didn't blip on my first read through, as I think lamp is town too. But 100% is a bit much for early in the game. shockeyy claims to need *lots* of data to give any kind of read. And about 24 hours later, he claims Iamp is 100% town. An analytical townie should need more data. Shockeyy is *not* an analytical townie. Town sentiment at the time was trusting of lamp, so mafia just following town sentiment and shmoozing lamp is a safe move. Strike 2: lying and shmoozing. And then there's the weird lying about his role thingy. Not sure what that means, but it's another dose of lying, which is a third strike: you're out! ##vote shockeyy Oh, and I filtered onegu too. I have never read a filter more devoid of anything interesting. John Cage's 4"33 has more content than that filter. I'd like to lynch 2 people from this side of the game, but unfortunately I didn't get a triple lynch ability, so my vote is for shockeyy who is actually scummy rather than just a blank void. | ||
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