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On October 30 2020 03:38 Hapahauli wrote: I know why I would want Onegu shot. Why do you? He has no intention to play the game. I know onegu is often like this, but more likely he is *completely* useless when scum. He is now *completely* useless and I don't want to waste time, thought or effort on him. So having a self-claimed 3p shoot him seems like a neat solution! And then when he flips scum, you are super unlikely to be scum with him, and it is also less likely you have some weird cultist crap. Could still be SK, but that sounds easy to deal with. | ||
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On October 30 2020 17:04 Koshi wrote: 100% mafia read and I would vote Acro just based on that. Good morning. This is more like the TL mafia I remember. Piling on me for no good reason. Especially the lurkers. 100% mafia move. Anyway, I'll use my ability tonight and that'll prove I'm town. It'll be pretty obvious. More in a bit. | ||
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This will give us a double lynch. It has a slight downside of separating the thread today into two, but basically: splits the game into two minigames both with their own lynch. Confirmed town, commence! | ||
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Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together. @Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here. @dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo. I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon. | ||
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The reason I think shockeyy and iamp are on the wrong sides is because we are players 2-7 and the other side is 1, 8-12. I have no explanation for how that happened. I have no further clarifications on how the player list is split other than that the "player list" is split in two. I guess instead of splitting it at 6, they could have split it at 7 and done modulo, or iamp or shockeyy have some role specifics that caused this. somebody bus drove them or anything else. My basic interpretation of the role was that it was going to be split in 1-6 and 7-12. | ||
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On October 30 2020 22:19 Hapahauli wrote: I did not visit the database, since there did not appear to be a clear consensus about what I should do. I elected for another night action that is objectively pro-town. I was roleblocked anyway, making it a moot issue. My lynch preferences are Grack and Acro. The secret ballot makes this frustrating, but if we simply make our vote-intentions transparent in thread, if someone else gets lynched, we will likely be able to deduce who lied about their vote. Did you get notified you were roleblocked? Or did you deduce it from something not happening? | ||
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On October 30 2020 22:25 Hapahauli wrote: Is the thread split your only ability? Yup. From now on I'm a VT. I can visit the DB or sit on my hands. | ||
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On October 30 2020 23:18 Hapahauli wrote: EBWOP: I have been delving through past GreyMist games. To be fair to Acro, the "thread-splitting" role has been town in a past GM game (Catastrophe Mafia). That however doesn't invalidate the point that this is not an objectively pro-town role. I honestly didn't know it was used in a mafia mechanic, lol. Figures... greymist games are always weird with scum roles given to town and town roles to scum. Anyway, imho double lynch is super town favoured, if I were scum I would sit on it and never use it. And complain to the hosts about how shitty my role was. Lynches give amazing information, and double lynches give double the information. I see the thread separation ans a minor downside. We basically get double the vote analysis to do from a single day. Not quite sure how much more pro-town a role can get without being an innocent child. Anyway, someone asked for my name, I don't think it's safe to say. Is that info in the database? If it is, I'm happy to give it for doublechecking, but if that is "secret" then I'd rather not get rolename sniped by mafia. | ||
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On October 31 2020 01:58 Grackaroni wrote: I think it's a bit suspicious that Acro is sticking with his town read on me based off volunteering to go to the database when lots of other players did so afterwords including both Onegu and ShoCkkey. I haven't made any effort at all to analyze posts yet. I'm going to start filter diving tonight. My read wasn't off the volunteering, it was off the speed at which you volunteered. By the time onegu and shockeyy came in, plenty of time had passed for scum to come up with a plan to deal with the database and corruption, but you volunteered early and that struck me. Anyway, reading some filters. | ||
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Strike 1: the "I'm too busy to play, but look, I'm posting" thing, and his little spat about what it means to be analytical. He prides himself on being analytical: On October 29 2020 02:44 ShoCkeyy wrote: yea 10 pages of noise data. What is an analytical person? What is an analytical person? An analytical person wants to gather and consider information at length before making a big decision. Even in small choices, they will tend to look to the numbers or data for guidance, rather than making an off-the-cuff choice. If you're truly say I'm not analytical, then I don't think you know what it actually meant. But then he goes: On October 30 2020 04:48 ShoCkeyy wrote: I also don't mind letting iamperfection visit the database alone, no one else, i trust him 100%. This didn't blip on my first read through, as I think lamp is town too. But 100% is a bit much for early in the game. shockeyy claims to need *lots* of data to give any kind of read. And about 24 hours later, he claims Iamp is 100% town. An analytical townie should need more data. Shockeyy is *not* an analytical townie. Town sentiment at the time was trusting of lamp, so mafia just following town sentiment and shmoozing lamp is a safe move. Strike 2: lying and shmoozing. And then there's the weird lying about his role thingy. Not sure what that means, but it's another dose of lying, which is a third strike: you're out! ##vote shockeyy Oh, and I filtered onegu too. I have never read a filter more devoid of anything interesting. John Cage's 4"33 has more content than that filter. I'd like to lynch 2 people from this side of the game, but unfortunately I didn't get a triple lynch ability, so my vote is for shockeyy who is actually scummy rather than just a blank void. | ||
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On October 31 2020 02:53 ShoCkeyy wrote: I didn't go to the database. What I find even more odd is the fact that Acro says this: Why the fuck should I not be here Acro??? DID YOU TRY TO SHOOT ME LAST NIGHT? Nice mock outrage. Scummer. So analytical that you didn't even bother to read the thread. | ||
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On October 31 2020 02:59 ShoCkeyy wrote: Lmfao. Acro is 100% mafia, thanks for letting me know. Took the bait I set out, and straight up went for it. "Bait"? Lol. Kinda a classic goto for scum when they got caught with their pants down. | ||
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On October 31 2020 03:04 ShoCkeyy wrote: Yea yea... you're the one with their pants down. Got caught. ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/sDivnDW7V6vFm/giphy.gif) Wrong animal, you should be posting baby seals, not cats. But I did my job, caught scum. Will let other people chip in. | ||
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On October 31 2020 03:18 Hapahauli wrote: @ Shockeyy 1) Did you visit the TL Mafia Database last night? 2) Please describe the "trap" that you set for Acro. @ Acro 1) Your posting suggests that your town read on Grack is strong enough that you wouldn't consider lynching him today. This appears to be based on the "speed" by which he volunteered to go to the Database. Is this true? 2) Today, you state that Onegu is a "blank void". Yesterday, you stated to the effect that I should shoot him because he's a scummy void. What changed your mind? Not sure my mind is changed. Just shockeyy went ahead in the line. Also emotions and stuff. Anyway, I haven't filtered grack in detail, but yeah. After reading shockeyy and rereading onegu, I don't see how grack is a priority given my earlier read. Oh, and one thing did strike me about onegu since our last talk: he claims he always plays this way regardless of alignment and that it'll pick up. I don't have the time or energy to dive into onegu's previous games to figure out if the former is true, and despite playing with him, I don't actually remember him being completely useless *when here*. but other people appeared to believe him at least somewhat, so there is that in his favor? | ||
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On October 30 2020 22:25 Hapahauli wrote: I was notified that I was roleblocked in my Night 0 PM from the host. I was also notified that I was selected as a "planeteer". Ok, so as far as we know, you're recruiting a cult and claiming roleblocked. I still don't see how your abilities make you pro-town. At best you're like my chrono trigger role. And there was literally no reason for town not to kill me at any point, except that I was very useful and put it all on the table for town. So I guess keep doing that? | ||
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On October 31 2020 03:33 Grackaroni wrote: For what it's worth I'd bet ShoCkkey is town. Even though it doesn't make any sense. What makes you think that? His claim? | ||
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On October 31 2020 03:47 Hapahauli wrote: If I am an anti-3p townie in your view, why am I not on your lynch list? You are. You're just below shockeyy and onegu. And shockeyy is dropping because that claim makes sense. Unless scum doesn't have KP in the first place. The bus driving lines up perfectly with my role. And I can't really think of a way scum busdrives iamp that doesn't end up with him dead. | ||
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