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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 28 2020 19:05 GMT
#301
On October 29 2020 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?

Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8

Who is mafia then?

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.

i dont get it.

is someone mafia in your opinion or not?

ShoCkeyy is a likely candidate and Hapa is not town by his own claim
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 28 2020 19:06 GMT
#302
On October 29 2020 03:35 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?

Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8

Who is mafia then?

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.


This is how!

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It's called multitasking in a meeting :D

Hm. Fair cop.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 28 2020 22:30 GMT
#462
On October 29 2020 06:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?


Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:17 Alakaslam wrote:
In other words, I agree with Iamp. Scum hunt not mechanics discussion.


In these two posts, Slam establishes a preference for "scum hunting" rather than talking about the setup. This should mean that his posts should be geared to finding mafia, and his attitude should generally be positive towards any discussion geared toward finding mafia.

The problem is that his subsequent post is the opposite:

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?

Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8

Who is mafia then?

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.


This post is completely mentally incongruent with his previous attitude. It is basically designed to shut down and brush off substantive discussion, particularly the "duh" portion of the post.

In his first post, he talks about scum hunting.
In his next post, he is explicit that his scum-read on me should be so obvious that is not even worth discussion.

That does not sound town to me.


Had to step out by the time you posted the first instance of this, then caught up.

Hapa do you notice that the comment on ShoCkeyy is a reply to a very specific question by rayn regarding my post pointing out that I think non town have started playing?

If you read it in that light (the truth) you’ll see the error in your logic with this.

Still catching up. Workday almost done
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 28 2020 23:26 GMT
#468
On October 29 2020 07:39 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 07:30 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 06:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?


On October 29 2020 02:17 Alakaslam wrote:
In other words, I agree with Iamp. Scum hunt not mechanics discussion.


In these two posts, Slam establishes a preference for "scum hunting" rather than talking about the setup. This should mean that his posts should be geared to finding mafia, and his attitude should generally be positive towards any discussion geared toward finding mafia.

The problem is that his subsequent post is the opposite:

On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
[quote]
That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?

It seems just silly to think and somewhat disrespectful to acro and Rayns potential mafia play.


meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?

Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8

Who is mafia then?

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.


This post is completely mentally incongruent with his previous attitude. It is basically designed to shut down and brush off substantive discussion, particularly the "duh" portion of the post.

In his first post, he talks about scum hunting.
In his next post, he is explicit that his scum-read on me should be so obvious that is not even worth discussion.

That does not sound town to me.


Had to step out by the time you posted the first instance of this, then caught up.

Hapa do you notice that the comment on ShoCkeyy is a reply to a very specific question by rayn regarding my post pointing out that I think non town have started playing?

If you read it in that light (the truth) you’ll see the error in your logic with this.

Still catching up. Workday almost done


I'm not getting this.

It is true that earlier in the conversation, Rayn asked whether or not you felt non-town started playing. However, you didn't quote that post. You quoted Rayn's post that asked you "who is mafia?"

Do you think I'm mafia or not?

I believe your claim. You’re not town and it’s complicated but you may as well be town.

ShoCkeyy I scumread.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 29 2020 00:10 GMT
#470
On October 29 2020 08:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 08:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 07:39 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 07:30 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 06:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 28 2020 23:57 Acrofales wrote:
Slam, what gives you any indication scum hasn't posted? That means you have town reads on dirk, rayn, lamp and myself from like... 2 pages. I don't buy it.

That’s fine, my opinion is out there. You may not buy it but I obviously do.

It’s my gut read on people’s posting plus. Sure, it’s early and bold.

I still feel that dirk, rayn, Iamp, and acro are all town. Scum can lurk and plenty of players still havent posted (as far as I have caught up to, which is like page 8)

I don’t like discussing our plans openly however. Why tell scum and any 3P what we are doing?


On October 29 2020 02:17 Alakaslam wrote:
In other words, I agree with Iamp. Scum hunt not mechanics discussion.


In these two posts, Slam establishes a preference for "scum hunting" rather than talking about the setup. This should mean that his posts should be geared to finding mafia, and his attitude should generally be positive towards any discussion geared toward finding mafia.

The problem is that his subsequent post is the opposite:

On October 29 2020 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:
[quote]

meh, I can agree with Slams statement, I've watched mafia literally AFK (including myself) all game and let town destroy itself.

You agree that everyone posting is town?

Which by this point I obv no longer believe. More people have posted since 8

Who is mafia then?

Why is ShoCkeyy both busier than me and capable of more activity?

And hapa duh dude lol.


This post is completely mentally incongruent with his previous attitude. It is basically designed to shut down and brush off substantive discussion, particularly the "duh" portion of the post.

In his first post, he talks about scum hunting.
In his next post, he is explicit that his scum-read on me should be so obvious that is not even worth discussion.

That does not sound town to me.


Had to step out by the time you posted the first instance of this, then caught up.

Hapa do you notice that the comment on ShoCkeyy is a reply to a very specific question by rayn regarding my post pointing out that I think non town have started playing?

If you read it in that light (the truth) you’ll see the error in your logic with this.

Still catching up. Workday almost done


I'm not getting this.

It is true that earlier in the conversation, Rayn asked whether or not you felt non-town started playing. However, you didn't quote that post. You quoted Rayn's post that asked you "who is mafia?"

Do you think I'm mafia or not?

I believe your claim. You’re not town and it’s complicated but you may as well be town.

ShoCkeyy I scumread.


Why do you scumread me? What did I do to make you think I'm mafia yo...

Why do you feel the need to mention inactivity if you can multitask like you showed me?

That’s it so far and I think it’s enough frankly. Day will tell, there’s also total lurkers like Ticktock and Koshi.

Either the team is you and those three or Onegu, or I am wrong about someone. 3P have an easy time convincing me though, I admit 1. Being pretty bad at this and 2. Hypocrisy. I am a full blown hypocrite.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 29 2020 00:16 GMT
#471
Well, and Yama but I am treating reading his slot very gingerly. Meeting rayn IRL actually reminded me why he actually does not realize how he appears on this and Americans (of non nordic descent) in particular are susceptible to finding him seriously offensive.

So I actually take Yamato at his word that I’m not sure he will continue as either alignment... so what he says rn is more nai than it would be normally.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 29 2020 00:43 GMT
#473
On October 29 2020 09:33 iamperfection wrote:
i find you a very strange fellow alakaslam

YOU SEE NOT WITH THE EYES OF CHUPAZI
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 29 2020 14:45 GMT
#548
On October 29 2020 21:20 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 19:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think i am gonna go to the database N0, i dont think i want to take any other action tonight. Any suggestions who i should be checking? People i am not going to check in any case because they are town, are:

Shockeyy
Dirkzor
Iamperfection



I dont know how many to send. (if we think we can control any of this). sending at least 1 seems undeniable good. so does sending more than 3.

here is how i see it:

sending 1 person: Gives us the chance to semi-check that person. if they go we get the info they give and can make our reads of that. If they dont go we can see it in the corruption increasing - thus making them scum for not playing with town. If we end up sending a mafia (or any 2 player faction) they can swap between them if one have a better night action than the other. We would have a hard time knowing if this happened.
edit after writing the other scenarios below: This opens up to someone going that we didn't choose. They can then use this information for themselves.

Sending 2 persons: Similar to above, but one of the 2 can just not go and do their nightaction anyway. Then we can only make our reads from the info they then have to fake.

Sending 3: Gets us the most info since we get 3 different kinds of hints. BUT its so easy for scum and/or 3p to go themselves to increase corruption.

Last scenario: Not deciding on anything and let people figure it out on their own. This option will not really give us any infomation going forward as we dont have anything to compare to.

all in all i think we should send 1 or 2. None seems like a missed opportunity. 3 seems risky if we want to keep the corruption low.

Now i dont have time to figure who should go or what they need to check. Hopefully i can get to that later...

This has changed my opinion.

You’re right, we should be nominating people to go.

I do not plan to go unless voted to do so.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 29 2020 18:05 GMT
#568
On October 30 2020 01:42 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 01:35 ShoCkeyy wrote:
The counter is definitely going to increase if we all go. We definitely know mafia is going to visit no matter what, it’s in their interest. I prefer sending one or two towns if there’s three mafia. Rayn you said KP doesn’t count as an action for the database right?

I don't know that. How do you know that.

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 29 2020 18:08 GMT
#569
Oh that was answered
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 29 2020 18:09 GMT
#570
I’m inclined to say “Nice save”.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 30 2020 03:14 GMT
#647
At concerns Hapa has with me:

I actually quoted the post I intended to quote. I was replying to a context from prior in the thread. It hadn’t occurred to me that thread mindset had moved on.


Since I am talking about Hapa.

I am starting to think he isn’t just an honest townsided 3P. I am trying to remember if he is still coming at this from the era of “slam is a pretty easy person to lynch” which was true many years ago. I doubt this since he has hosted games I was in a lot recently. That’s basically what keeps me trying to get him off of me, as I have less reason to disbelieve him than to believe him. In which case, his error and it’s subtlety actually makes me want him around for the long run in this game- as I think he can really put us on the right track to a win.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 30 2020 03:15 GMT
#648
Loli changed my own mind in that post. Bah. LA metro thoughts.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 30 2020 03:16 GMT
#650
On October 30 2020 11:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 11:34 Onegu wrote:
On October 30 2020 11:22 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 08:25 Onegu wrote:
Then I will no longer be vt because I got something. See how this works?


Well I derived for now from this post and another where you say “currently”.



Meh I can kinda understand where you are coming from with the question, but it is really reachy to go from you are town to you get a item and become 3p...

I will be more clear. I am VT currently. When I get my item I become blue. Not black, not red, not italics.


It’ll be fucked it a mafia member holds the item. Heh.

Not necessarily; if we lynch them, maybe he gets it! :D
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 30 2020 03:17 GMT
#651
And no that was a typo I don’t loli
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 30 2020 03:17 GMT
#652
Loliboats is how my clan refers to destroyers
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 30 2020 03:17 GMT
#653
So that is in my phone
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 01 2020 17:04 GMT
#920
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote:
My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:

TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam
Slam (1) - Koshi
NoVote (1) - TicTock

Is this correct?

Crap I forgot that

I was unable to PM until later.

I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 01 2020 17:14 GMT
#923
On November 02 2020 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
When did you vote for Koshi and why?

Yesterday before the Halloween rush, because I omgus probably? I was tired. I drive many hours for the uber people
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 01 2020 17:15 GMT
#925
On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote:
My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:

TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam
Slam (1) - Koshi
NoVote (1) - TicTock

Is this correct?

Crap I forgot that

I was unable to PM until later.

I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched?

WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit.

Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron

Moron part yes, scum part no.
IRL i drive for uber 12 hours a day every weekend to get by. I live in downtown LA and my wife is due to give birth very soon.
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