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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 04 2020 12:26 GMT
#2001
Ok. To my mafia friend. I am near unlynchable. Please murder me tonight. If youbdont you might regret it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 12:27 GMT
#2002
Oh that’s cool.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 04 2020 12:28 GMT
#2003
On November 04 2020 21:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh that’s cool.

I never doubted your wisdom.
I had a good night of sleep.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 12:33 GMT
#2004
Slam and Grack die and we win. Maybe we lynch Rayn in there just for fun.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 12:42 GMT
#2005
Wow TT’s role could have been so powerful if used in conjunction with Acro’s.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 04 2020 12:49 GMT
#2006
I am gonna take a break until tomorrow. Need to do stuff at the apartment today. I think Slam and only should be forced to go to the database. Thretened by getting lynched if he doesn't go.
table for two on a tv tray
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 13:03 GMT
#2007
Why does mafia-Slam claim that he fucked up his vote in Thread B? Doesn’t that go completely against any sane mafia-use of the secret ballots?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 04 2020 13:04 GMT
#2008
I think we just lynch Grack.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 04 2020 13:15 GMT
#2009
On November 04 2020 22:03 Hapahauli wrote:
Why does mafia-Slam claim that he fucked up his vote in Thread B? Doesn’t that go completely against any sane mafia-use of the secret ballots?

How would he hide among the other voters?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 04 2020 13:16 GMT
#2010
Maybe he was scared to go up against iamp, rayn and yamato in a fight about who didn't send in a vote.

Scared is maybe not the right word but if TT ever flipped mafia would be in that group due to the lie. Now one could still argue it was an honest mistake.
I had a good night of sleep.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 04 2020 13:18 GMT
#2011
-poops-
Writer@WriterYamato
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 04 2020 13:19 GMT
#2012
I think Slam should use his thingie on Grack. Sapping his power. As it appears to be a RB sometimes? No clue.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 04 2020 13:21 GMT
#2013
Ah no. I understand it. It is useless atm but it will get better with more corruption.

I assume Grack is mafia RB.

Games with mass claiming are just annoying for mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 04 2020 13:23 GMT
#2014
On November 04 2020 21:11 Koshi wrote:
Yamato totes ruined a perfect town sweep by not selecting Slam Grack as literally everybody Hapa wanted.

I had a good night of sleep.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 04 2020 13:25 GMT
#2015
Feel free to roleblock me.

Do scum really leave Ticktock/Slam together in a lynch against Koshi/Rayn/Yamato/Iamp. Seems like they massively misused their roles.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 04 2020 13:26 GMT
#2016
On November 03 2020 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1.Iamperfection
2. Hapahauli
3. Grackaroni
4. Onegu
5. Dirkzor
6. Acrofales (mafia)

7. ShoCkeyy
8. Alakaslam
9. Tictock
10. Koshi
11. Raynpelikoneet
12. Yamato77

now who gets lynched who is not mafia in each thread? maybe shockeyy was the assumed scapegoat in the second thread. Maybe acrofales was the only mafia in first thread? I wouldnt bank on onegu/grack 1v1 and you definitely dont want to lynch yourself and you cannot pretty much lynch anyone out of iamp/hapa/dirk.


This is really interesting, and I think it heavily discounts the Onegu mafia theory. If you are Acro and set up the threads in this way, who is the mislynch target in 1-6? Onegu and Grack are the only realistic mislynch targets here.

Acro doesn't really attempt to push Grack at all, and instead pushes Onegu and Shockeyy for most of the day.

So we have to believe that Onegu and Acro had a plan to bus each other hard for town cred (unlikely, given how inactive Onegu was and generally is), or that Acro's motivations have more face-value to them.

The other thing that sticks out to me is Acro's attempt to goad me into shooting Onegu:

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 03:35 Acrofales wrote:
If so shoot onegu.


Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 03:46 Acrofales wrote:
On October 30 2020 03:38 Hapahauli wrote:
I know why I would want Onegu shot. Why do you?

He has no intention to play the game. I know onegu is often like this, but more likely he is *completely* useless when scum. He is now *completely* useless and I don't want to waste time, thought or effort on him. So having a self-claimed 3p shoot him seems like a neat solution! And then when he flips scum, you are super unlikely to be scum with him, and it is also less likely you have some weird cultist crap. Could still be SK, but that sounds easy to deal with.


Now I was Roleblocked (seemingly by mafia), so this may have been an "empty" play by Acro. However, if Acro seriously thinks I have KP, and he successfully "convinces" me into shooting Onegu, mafia is committed to Roleblock me for the rest of the game.

I am inclined to take Acro's words at face value once again - mafia generally don't goad third parties into shooting scumbuddies.


On November 03 2020 05:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Rayn, my assessment of Grack/Acro is that:
1) Acro never put any serious heat on Grack, and;
2) Grack had some minor suspicions on him throughout the early game, but none of them really stuck.

Does that line up with your interpretation of the game prior to Acro's flip?

I surrender MVP to Hapa.
Not even worth it to go to Supreme Court.
I had a good night of sleep.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 04 2020 13:26 GMT
#2017
Still not me lol. If I was mafia I wouldn't dump Acro to just do nothing. Lynch was easily changeable.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 04 2020 13:28 GMT
#2018
I like forcing whoever we think are scum to go to database. If they don't go, its a scum claim. If they do go, they can't NK.

I went over TT's filter. He was bussing Acro hard from Day 1. His strongest scum read. After Acro died and didnt flip he attacked Slam for his non-vote.

To be fair he also suspected me and a bit grack D0. But never called us directly scum as he did acro.

Is this a trend for tictock? Bus his teammates hard?
On October 30 2020 14:10 Tictock wrote:
As for general reads;

Slam, Onegu, Sho, and Grack are all pretty unreadable to me right now.

Iam, Happa, and Yamato all feel pretty town to me. Mostly just tonal and they are consistently being constructive and bringing intresting stuff to the table.

Rayn is all over the place. I would need to do actual legwork but he started off the game wanting everybody to claim and seemed focused on a planning how to approach the database. He tore into Happa's claim, but unless I missed it didn't react to dirk's claim at all. Then he suddenly wants to go check the corruption when before he had stated he wanted to send scum reads, and I think he went back to that recently as well. Ever since I got confused, thinking he ended the phase early, I've been going back and forth about rayn in my head.

Acro is still probably scum. Nothing he has posted has stood out to me, can't think of anything he has stated or done while writing this and have no sense of where he is at with the game. Granted I could say the same for Grack and a few other people as well, but I think Acro has been posting much more consistently.

I feel like I'm missing something but this is more or less where I am at with the game right now.



On November 02 2020 19:15 Tictock wrote:
Acro didn't actually flip ontop of the rest of the shit happening in the past day?

Slam reads like caught scum and apparently voted to save me.

What have I come back to?


On November 02 2020 19:56 Tictock wrote:
Not even finishing this phase tonight, I tried

Slam seeming awkward at start of phase is all that really jumps out to me, and not like he is having fun being awkward.

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 04 2020 13:30 GMT
#2019
Stop doing things or mafia will kill you Dirk. I want to see the countdown thingie.
I had a good night of sleep.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 04 2020 13:32 GMT
#2020
Its fine either way. I don't think town can lose even if I get killed now,
I was hoping everyone would have forgot about the timer but SOMEONE keeps bringing it up
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
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