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Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
August 17 2020 20:55 GMT
#881
Well it is possible mafia held a shot.

Tbh my initial scum read was slight host wifom. But since he was replaced it was wrong anyway.
Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
August 17 2020 20:55 GMT
#882
It's not really worth thinking about today if he held shot d1 or not.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 17 2020 21:05 GMT
#883
I was just curious because even a few hours ago you mentioned him as your first mafia guess.

I think the issue I've run into is that I'm too much of a feelings based player. I don't know if I could ever lynch a player who is kind and working with me over a player who refuses to re-evaluate or answer questions or read my posts. But that doesn't make it right necessarily.

I will keep thinking about it and at some point soon share my thoughts. But I will defer to Fecalfeast/Onegu ulrimately.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 17 2020 22:24 GMT
#884
I don't want to kill today I've been sweating all day at work and have barely skimmed anything but i think we should take one of our 2 extra days now
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 17 2020 22:29 GMT
#885
The only reason I didn't claim d2 is the possibility of a held shot but I agree with damdred it's not useful to consider that right now.

Look at the first lynch. The only viable alternative to Holden(town) was LS. All 3 of the votes on ls were town based on my save being true.

On August 13 2020 10:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Night 1 Start:

HoldenGolden (6) - Eywa-, LightningStrike, GTacc, FecalFeast, Vivax, Trfel
LightningStrike (3) - HoldenGolden, Mr. Cheesecake, Shockeyy


HoldenGolden was lynched. He was a Townie.

until the start of Day 2.
until the game ends.

Vivax confirmed town as well.
Both mafia are on holden d1 and i think killing LS makes a lot of sense based on this.
I'm not doing colours because I'm on my phone.


Again i think we need another 24 hrs tho
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 17 2020 23:44 GMT
#886
On August 18 2020 07:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
I don't want to kill today I've been sweating all day at work and have barely skimmed anything but i think we should take one of our 2 extra days now
No worries. Like I said, we can't lynch without Onegu anyway, as it requires four for majority. So I really hope Onegu comes before tomorrow or it's a lost game.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 18 2020 00:16 GMT
#887
##unvote
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-18 01:00:20
August 18 2020 01:00 GMT
#888
Day 3 VoteCount #1:

LightningStrike (1) - Trfel
Trfel (1) - LightningStrike
Eywa- (1) - Dadred

With 6 players alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.


until the next official votecount.
until the game ends.

I'm adorable.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 18 2020 01:02 GMT
#889
No modkill on Onegu

We need Onegu to show up. Badly.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 18 2020 01:04 GMT
#890
I'll be cooking but around for a while if anyone wants to talk.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 18 2020 01:07 GMT
#891
Oh and no majority was reached
I'm adorable.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 18 2020 01:12 GMT
#892
##vote: Damdred
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 18 2020 01:19 GMT
#893
Activity warning to Onegu.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 18 2020 01:46 GMT
#894
4 days 23 hours until the game ends. We need to do our final lynch with 0 days 0 hours left. That means we can leave the penultimate lynch until there are 2 days 0 hours left (so, start preparing for it at 3 days 0 hours left, right)?

Prepare at 3 days 0 hours
Lynch at 2 days 0 hours
Silent night ends at 1 day 0 hours
Final lynch.

So we still have 48 hours for Onegu to show up, right? Or am I missing something?
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 18 2020 02:09 GMT
#895
I'm voting Damdred, I'm town. You guys do the math on what needs to be done.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 18 2020 05:49 GMT
#896
To me lynching LightningStrike is the mechanically correct play because he's basically confirmed mafia from my perspective, in addition to just plain being scummy. But I could lynch someone else if you guys want to. While it's the "wrong" play, even if we lynch LightningStrike first we still have to make that call later and I highly doubt the relevant information will change much. Though if more time is needed, that's a different matter.

I still don't know for certain who is mafia between Damdred and Eywa-. Tonight I am leaning more towards Eywa- but I keep rereading their filters and being confused. I think I'm going to look at an Eywa- meta game or two.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 18 2020 06:34 GMT
#897
So I looked at some Eywa- town games and one Eywa- mafia game. Unfortunately I wasn't playing in any of the games I looked at so it's hard to know what was going on just from reading his filter out of context. But I have concluded that (1) I am awful at meta and (2) Eywa- is really hard to read.

My best guess at a meaningful way to distinguish Eywa-'s town game from his scum game is that when Eywa- is town, he cares more about who is lynched and seeing his scumreads get lynched. In the Eywa- mafia game I read, Eywa- made his scumreads known but seemed less invested in following through on them. It's tricky because he still discussed and argued about them, it just lacked the same conviction I saw from his town play, if that makes sense.

But I don't know how that applies to Eywa-'s play in this game. It's a bit different with the majority lynch and timed game as opposed to the normal plurality lynch, it makes it more compelling to just lynch anyone instead of being selective about lynches.

I guess in the end, I don't get the impression that Eywa- has been too invested in this game or really caring about what happens. He certainly pushes his reads, but doesn't fight or push back when people disagree or don't listen. So my conclusion of the meta attempt is slightly scummy with a very large side of me being bad at meta.

I am not sure how meta reads would apply to Damdred given that he hasn't played in so long, I know years of inactivity changed my play significantly.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9697 Posts
August 18 2020 06:37 GMT
#898
Greetings. I promise I will read things tonight/tomorrow. When I joined the game I saw silent night and I was like ok fuck that. Then it was my anniversary today. But I am here, I have no idea how this game works, so this should be fun.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 18 2020 06:47 GMT
#899
Hi Onegu! Happy belated anniversary!

The way this game works is a majority lynch system (as opposed to the typical plurality lynch system). For today, there are six players alive, so four votes are required to lynch. Every 24 hours, there is an official vote count and if some player has a majority of votes (for today, 4+), they are lynched. The game also has a time limit, ending with a town loss in 4-5 days, so we can't take too long.

As such, it is critical for town to vote together. And your vote is much needed in this.

Fecalfeast has claimed doctor and has not been counterclaimed, so he is town. Fecalfeast targeted Mr. Cheesecake Night 1 (who you replaced), and there was no kill Night 1, so it is likely that mafia shot Mr. Cheesecake but Fecalfeast saved it. That leaves four unconfirmed players: Dadred/Damdred (who replaced the inactive GTacc), Eywa-, LightningStrike, and myself. Two of which are mafia, two of which are town. And it's MYLO, with mafia having a roleblocker, so a mislynch now loses the game.

Naturally I would like to point you to some of my posts/reads to get you going, but I'm biased, so I will leave this post neutral and unbiased.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 18 2020 06:50 GMT
#900
So really it's kinda up to you and Fecalfeast (the basically confirmed town players) to decide who to lynch and if town is smart, they'll follow (as separate town votes leads to an automatic loss). I've posted my thoughts and will continue to do so as I try to figure things out, but ultimately it's your (plural) choice.
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