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Eywa-
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On August 18 2020 02:20 Eywa- wrote: You guys are joking right if LS is mafia. So, we basically just take him as town given that he has 2 town reads of the 4 POE players EITHER they're both mafia, OR they're WRONG town. Wrong town in LyLo = GG. I'm never with Trfel because of how he's been pandering to me all game, therefore Damdred is always mafia because his scum team is literally 2 players who CANNOT bet together. We can re-evaluate LS in final 3, but I think it's just obviously Damdred + Trfel. So yeah, if we're living in the world where FF is the real doctor with the save as claimed, this is the only world we win in. | ||
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Dadred
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In either case, a bus/pocket is less likely but it's not impossible and arguing that it is impossible just gets is no where. I'm not even sure you are scum atm tbh, but I don't have time until tonight to dig more. | ||
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On August 18 2020 02:36 Dadred wrote: Tbh I wish I was scum with Eywa here I love a double bus. Sadly I'm not that interesting this game. Not even my favorite alignment. In either case, a bus/pocket is less likely but it's not impossible and arguing that it is impossible just gets is no where. I'm not even sure you are scum atm tbh, but I don't have time until tonight to dig more. So the guy says he's never voting LS today, doubles down on that when he's pressured, then confirms that his town read on LS and the decision he's decided to take this game is a low probability play. Oh, and he's not really sure about any of his reads, but there are only 3 players to reasonably choose from! Heck, I mean, it would make sense if he were still evaluating the doc, but where is that present in his posting? This guy is just mafia, it's irrefutable. | ||
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Eywa-
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I mean, I don't think I have to hammer this home any harder than that. We need every town to vote here. I'm so OBVIOUSLY town and he is just outed MAFIA. | ||
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Dadred
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Not having time to do something isn't scummy though. Though tbh you turning everything I say or do into something scummy is scum play 101, or at least super tunneled play. And idk which it is, maybe I'll look into it tonight if I'm not lynched. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Day 3 VC: LightningStrike (1) - Trfel Trfel (1) - LightningStrike Dadred (1) - Eywa- Eywa- (1) - Dadred With 6 players alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch. until the next official votecount. until the game ends. | ||
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Trfel
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On August 18 2020 02:17 Dadred wrote: Why doesn't the innocent LightningStrike apply to his scumgame too? Admittedly I'm not LightningStrike expert, but I don't see why him quoting past games or missing jokes or stuff like that has any bearing on his alignment.I'm sorry I just don't think he is scum, he is just innocent LS here. Even my joke that went over his head he over explained his reasoning even went and quoted old games. I'm not voting LS today. My take on his play is that most of his play this game looks like his normal play, but there are a few key things that stick out and make him mafia. So I understand that he looks like he could be town from his general play, but have you thought about those things I've commented on? I mostly just ask because Eywa- openly said he didn't even bother to read my posts :/ | ||
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Trfel
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Correct me if I'm wrong but you're saying LightningStrike is town because if he is mafia we lose? I don't get it. | ||
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Dadred
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On August 18 2020 04:25 Trfel wrote: Why doesn't the innocent LightningStrike apply to his scumgame too? Admittedly I'm not LightningStrike expert, but I don't see why him quoting past games or missing jokes or stuff like that has any bearing on his alignment. My take on his play is that most of his play this game looks like his normal play, but there are a few key things that stick out and make him mafia. So I understand that he looks like he could be town from his general play, but have you thought about those things I've commented on? I mostly just ask because Eywa- openly said he didn't even bother to read my posts :/ You know, I believe that all posts deserve to be read. I did read your post and I like the attention that you played especially around the Holden lunch to how LS read on FF does not quite align with his words in the thread. So I'm going to divert for a second if you will ok teams, we are at the point where it's ok to talk about teams of people. Who would be the teammate to LS? | ||
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Trfel
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On August 18 2020 04:53 Dadred wrote: It would have to be Eywa- or you, from my perspective. Fecalfeast claimed doctor, so he is town. Mr. Cheesecake/Onegu was likely shot Night 1, and even if not, I was reading him as town anyway.You know, I believe that all posts deserve to be read. I did read your post and I like the attention that you played especially around the Holden lunch to how LS read on FF does not quite align with his words in the thread. So I'm going to divert for a second if you will ok teams, we are at the point where it's ok to talk about teams of people. Who would be the teammate to LS? Honestly, both combinations I could see. Eywa- has had a weird townread on LightningStrike the entire game and I have not been able to understand it (like I can't understand what Eywa- is saying, not even if it is justified or not). LightningStrike has been weird towards Eywa- too. And I already commented on why I find your read on LightningStrike suspect. At the moment I'm not super confident who is mafia. I really hope Eywa- is mafia because I really hope he wouldn't play this obnoxiously as town, but unfortunately I can't say that for sure... so I'm leaning towards you being mafia. But I am still working on it. | ||
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Dadred
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On August 18 2020 05:02 Trfel wrote: It would have to be Eywa- or you, from my perspective. Fecalfeast claimed doctor, so he is town. Mr. Cheesecake/Onegu was likely shot Night 1, and even if not, I was reading him as town anyway. Honestly, both combinations I could see. Eywa- has had a weird townread on LightningStrike the entire game and I have not been able to understand it (like I can't understand what Eywa- is saying, not even if it is justified or not). LightningStrike has been weird towards Eywa- too. And I already commented on why I find your read on LightningStrike suspect. At the moment I'm not super confident who is mafia. I really hope Eywa- is mafia because I really hope he wouldn't play this obnoxiously as town, but unfortunately I can't say that for sure... so I'm leaning towards you being mafia. But I am still working on it. You know old damdred would turn toxic here. But man it's nice actually just having a conversation. Here's the world I'm working with there's only three possible yes that probably can exist I think. And this is just from a bird's eye view. Damdred/LS Ewya/LS Trfel/Ewya This is the world everyone should be living in today. I'm sort of starting to lean one way between the bottom two teams but I don't want to say quite yet. Here's the deal about me though, I always change my mind on the fly whenever I do and tbh I always dig my heels in when I want something over something else especially when someone I'm townreading is being lynched. I think Ewya has been the scummiest person today. He's lived in a world where I've been mafia from the start with no way around it and thought you were scum yesterday called Shockeyy a townread at points but also had you as scum. And voted with you, with his scum read and voted a townread. I really hope you also go back and read how he's painting every thing I say or do today as scum because he needs one ml to win. Just look at how the two sides in the me v Ewya are playing. One is wanting time to evaluate after two flips of information while the other is instantly pushing a lunch with no reevaluation for days. Trfel we have to lunch between the two of us today. If I don't get lynched I will listen very seriously on LS but this between me and Eywa has to be determined. | ||
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Trfel
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On August 18 2020 05:12 Dadred wrote: Yeah, I know I need to figure out what's going on. Can you at least see why your read on LightningStrike seems so suspicious to me though? Like I get that reads can change and people can defend light townreads or even null reads (heck, I hard defend null reads all the time myself), it just doesn't read like that's what happened to me though. And maybe I'm wrong in that, if I am wrong it's my fault. That said it's the only solid reason I have, so I do need to re-evaluate.You know old damdred would turn toxic here. But man it's nice actually just having a conversation. Here's the world I'm working with there's only three possible yes that probably can exist I think. And this is just from a bird's eye view. Damdred/LS Ewya/LS Trfel/Ewya This is the world everyone should be living in today. I'm sort of starting to lean one way between the bottom two teams but I don't want to say quite yet. Here's the deal about me though, I always change my mind on the fly whenever I do and tbh I always dig my heels in when I want something over something else especially when someone I'm townreading is being lynched. I think Ewya has been the scummiest person today. He's lived in a world where I've been mafia from the start with no way around it and thought you were scum yesterday called Shockeyy a townread at points but also had you as scum. And voted with you, with his scum read and voted a townread. I really hope you also go back and read how he's painting every thing I say or do today as scum because he needs one ml to win. Just look at how the two sides in the me v Ewya are playing. One is wanting time to evaluate after two flips of information while the other is instantly pushing a lunch with no reevaluation for days. Trfel we have to lunch between the two of us today. If I don't get lynched I will listen very seriously on LS but this between me and Eywa has to be determined. I agree that Eywa-'s play has been detrimental to town, unfortunately I don't know if that is a mafia tell for Eywa- honestly. Like from my perspective, you have objectively been "townier," but it's not about who looks better or plays better, it's about who is what. And that's tougher. | ||
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Dadred
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I mean yeah anytime someone's read on anyone turns from one color to another you need to look at it drastically. I think after today and how you have reacted to the different scenarios you probably are more than likely town so you have that going for you. I mean I don't think it makes me scum though is the only issue. I don't want to towncase myself here, but it is Mylo so the game rests on this. I think I've attempted to figure out people's alignments without honeing in on one person, I did not really take anytime I went through all filters pretty rapidly to stir a dead thread to life and think I've found mafia in Ewya. I also think I could of been more forceful in the Shockeyy lynch I think that's a real knock on my play. If LS flips scum I obviously have scum sided yesterday when I could of lunched him. I wouldn't doubt it's LS/Ewya but I think killing E first does clear me here so I am invested in this lynch I hope you understand. | ||
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Trfel
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I understand where you're coming from. I am also not necessarily in a huge rush because for town to get a majority (four votes) we do need Onegu's vote. So until Onegu posts (and Onegu, please do post, we don't bite) if I don't know who is mafia I'm going to keep reading and trying to figure it out. | ||
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Dadred
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I am an open book. | ||
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Eywa-
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I haven't taken a hard line on kills this game, which resulted in my top town read being killed, so I'm going all-in on this one. | ||
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