EPT[M][N] Holy Guardians - Cpt 3
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Hapahauli
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Hapahauli
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Hapahauli
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And on the bright side, I am 100% of the time mafia 22.22% of the time. | ||
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Hapahauli
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jockmcplop (first!) ShoCkeyy Tictock Trfel VisceraEyes Rayn Chez Slam So that leaves 3 more... or we can run a 6 player game if GB doesn't show up for a couple of days. Lmk. EDIT: Added Chez EDIT: Added Slam | ||
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COPCAKE PLZ. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Vote Count: Alakaslam (1): VisceraEyes Shockeyy (1): Jockmcplop VisceraEyes (1): Tictock Tictock (1): Copcake Not Voting (5): Shockeyy, Chezinu, Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam VisceraEyes is currently set to be lynched. Votes are not counted unless posted in the Voting Thread! Voting is mandatory! Plurality Lynch: The person with the most votes gets lynched. in the event of a tie, the player that first received enough votes will be lynched. until deadline. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Vote Count: Trfel (4): VisceraEyes, Alakaslam, Chezinu, Raynpelikoneet Tictock (1): Copcake CopCake (1): Tictock Shockeyy (1): Jockmcplop VisceraEyes (0): Jockmcplop (0): Shockeyy (0): Alakaslam (0): Not Voting (4): Shockeyy, Trfel Trfel is currently set to be lynched. Votes are not counted unless posted in the Voting Thread! Voting is mandatory! Plurality Lynch: The person with the most votes gets lynched. in the event of a tie, the player that first received enough votes will be lynched. until deadline. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Vote Count: Trfel (3): Alakaslam, Chezinu, Raynpelikoneet Shockeyy (2): Jockmcplop, Copcake CopCake (1): Tictock Alakaslam (1): VisceraEyes Not Voting (2): Shockeyy, Trfel Trfel is currently set to be lynched. Votes are not counted unless posted in the Voting Thread! Voting is mandatory! Plurality Lynch: The person with the most votes gets lynched. in the event of a tie, the player that first received enough votes will be lynched. until deadline. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Day 2 - Vote Count: Jockmcplop (2): Raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes VisceraEyes (1): Jockmcplop Not Voting (0): Everyone Else Jockmcplop is set to be lynched. Votes are not counted unless posted in the Voting Thread! Voting is mandatory! Plurality Lynch: The person with the most votes gets lynched. in the event of a tie, the player that first received enough votes will be lynched. until deadline. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Day 2 - Vote Count: Jockmcplop (3): Raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes, Chezinu VisceraEyes (1): Jockmcplop Not Voting (0): Everyone Else Jockmcplop is set to be lynched. Votes are not counted unless posted in the Voting Thread! Voting is mandatory! Plurality Lynch: The person with the most votes gets lynched. in the event of a tie, the player that first received enough votes will be lynched. until deadline. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Day 3 - Vote Count: Alakaslam (1): raynpelikoneet Raynpelikoneet (1): jockmcplop Jockmcplop (1): Alakaslam Not Voting (2): VisceraEyes, Chezinu Raynpelikoneet is set to be lynched. Votes are not counted unless posted in the Voting Thread! Voting is mandatory! Plurality Lynch: The person with the most votes gets lynched. in the event of a tie, the player that first received enough votes will be lynched. until deadline. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Day 3 - Vote Count: Jockmcplop (4): Alakaslam, Raynpelikoneet, Chezinu, VisceraEyes Raynpelikoneet (1): jockmcplop Not Voting (0): Jockmcplop is set to be lynched. Votes are not counted unless posted in the Voting Thread! Voting is mandatory! Plurality Lynch: The person with the most votes gets lynched. in the event of a tie, the player that first received enough votes will be lynched. until deadline. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Day 3 - Vote Count: Chezinu (2): VisceraEyes, Jockmcplop Alakaslam (2): Rayn, Chez Jockmcplop (1): Alakaslam Not Voting (0): Chezinu is set to be lynched. Votes are not counted unless posted in the Voting Thread! Voting is mandatory! Plurality Lynch: The person with the most votes gets lynched. in the event of a tie, the player that first received enough votes will be lynched. until deadline. | ||
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Hapahauli
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LYLO Count: Chezinu (1): Alakaslam Not Voting (2): Chezinu, Jockmcplop Chezinu is set to be lynched. Votes are not counted unless posted in the Voting Thread! Voting is mandatory! Plurality Lynch: The person with the most votes gets lynched. in the event of a tie, the player that first received enough votes will be lynched. until deadline. | ||
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Hapahauli
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LYLO Count: Jockmcplop (2): Alakaslam, Chezinu Not Voting (1): Jockmcplop Jockmcplop is set to be lynched. Votes are not counted unless posted in the Voting Thread! Voting is mandatory! Plurality Lynch: The person with the most votes gets lynched. in the event of a tie, the player that first received enough votes will be lynched. until deadline. | ||
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Hapahauli
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1) Chez's quick and decisive bus of Trfel is what gave him a chance to win this game. I think this type of play has been lacking in TL of late. If your teammate isn't picking up the slack, there's no sense in going down with the sinking ship. 2) Best post of the game award goes to Rayn: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/560300-holy-guardians-cpt-3?page=18#348 On July 10 2020 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: ... Firstly, i have to say that i think there is no reason why Trfel's scumbuddy isn't possibly voting for him right now assuming Trfel is mafia. Votes on him (aside from me and maybe Chezinu?) are basically because he is inactive. That's easy to fix, Trfel just starts posting and you can take off the vote on your scumbuddy. No harm done. ... This is a very good assessment of D1 vote-count analysis. I am not sure why this post didn't get picked up more or discussed in Night 1. If it did, I do not think Chez would have escaped suspicion for as long as he did. 3) There is a growing "trend" in recent games on TL, wherein discussions are fairly unproductive 75% of the day, and then the town is forced to scramble for a lynch at the last minute. Often, the player who gets lynched is the person who puts up the least resistance. On D1, this worked reasonably well for town, since mafia-Trfel was inactive. On D3, it led to the lynch of the towniest player in the thread. I don't think it is an issue of activity... I think people are willing to be chatty overall. I think the problem is that players are trying to "chat with one another" without necessarily pushing for a larger objective. This creates conversations that are fairly meaningless from a game-development perspective. Rather than simply "chat", it is more important to create thread "events", which force players to react (and thereby reveal information about their alignments) rather than "converse" with someone to feel them out. | ||
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On July 18 2020 23:32 Jockmcplop wrote: But I'm contending with the possibility that he just did that to get chez to play ball with him. Chez seemed to be pretty transparently going for self preservation at the cost of everything yesterday and was putting his vote literally anywhere. Slam where are you?? Also a good post, and honorable mention for best post in the game. It is worth looking at the D3 and LYLO lynches in more detail. Observe which players were trying to lynch their reads, often at the expense of their own safety (townies), and which players were trying to blindly stay alive. Jock's post here is an accurate depiction of how Chez played. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On July 20 2020 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: It is not that, it's just that i dont see why chezinu wouldnt have voted like he did as town either. Well i dont really know if he WOULDNT have, but i know he SHOULDNT have, because its just stupid to lynch yourself lol.. Also i dont really care abot being lynched. If i did i would have probably voted for chezinu in any world. Sadly i didnt think he is mafia. I also find it more pleasing the game ended as it did than voting for chezinu because of the way D3 went.  You are correct in a purely objective sense: it makes sense for a "townie" to do what he needs to do to survive. However, other town players (jock, VE, slam, etc.) were not purely "trying to survive" - they were pushing lynches, often by creating "binary" choices between themselves and their scumreads. These binary choices put the town players in serious danger. The actions by players who did this are strong town tells. Chez's play is absent of this. I raise the point of Chez's play to contrast it with how town players were acting, as opposed to calling Chez's play "scummy". Chez played objectively well, but nonethless, his play stands out. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On July 21 2020 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: I disagree here. Jock wanted to lynch Chezinu. He voted for me only after VE said he is considering voting for slam (which he never did so if jock had stayed on his vote it doesnt matter where slam AND Chezinu vote, his #1 scumread still gets lynched). I also think pushing these "binary choices" are actually scum motivated. It's easy to say this or that as mafia (hell people can even agree with it) to make way for yourself to vote for the two "scummiest" people without reasoning it better, because the "town" agrees. Also jock did it 100% wrong in the end, do you agree? Just read lol... Slam should have been lynched. Like really, D2 i wanted to lunch him when jock claimed but i convinced myself otherwise because shockeyy didnt vote for mafia D1 (when i thought he should have) and slam did. I dare to say even if you are sure slam is town you win in lylo lynching him over me yhis game D3. VE was always town. I agree you cant tell eho night killed someone N1 but you can tell who didnt. Me and VE never shoot TT there, period. Maybe its vecause of experience that other people lack, but yeah, me and VE were always town after that nk. Slam was just shit and should have been lynched. I made a post about it and it was accurate. All game ve is mafia vote anyone who is not ve!??????? Fucking shit slam. At least try to do something... Rayn, I don't understand what you're arguing. "Binary choices" are arguably bad logic and detrimental to town... but for the purposes of analyzing posts to find mafia, who cares? The alignments of the players in this game are proof that trying to lynch people for "binary" logic is not a good way of lynching mafia. Townies do anti-town shit all the time. Townies play bad all the time. There is no justification for lynching players for such behavior if you know better. | ||
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