• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:09
CET 01:09
KST 09:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners2Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon!20$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship5[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage3Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win9
StarCraft 2
General
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon! RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage Practice Partners (Official) [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1227 users

[M][N] Holy Guardians - Cpt 3 - Page 55

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 53 54 55 56 57 Next
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
July 20 2020 19:19 GMT
#1081
Good.
Enjoy your forum.
I'm done here.
RIP Meatloaf <3
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 19:46 GMT
#1082
gg
table for two on a tv tray
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
July 20 2020 19:59 GMT
#1083
On July 21 2020 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2020 00:57 Hapahauli wrote:
On July 20 2020 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It is not that, it's just that i dont see why chezinu wouldnt have voted like he did as town either. Well i dont really know if he WOULDNT have, but i know he SHOULDNT have, because its just stupid to lynch yourself lol..

Also i dont really care abot being lynched. If i did i would have probably voted for chezinu in any world. Sadly i didnt think he is mafia.

I also find it more pleasing the game ended as it did than voting for chezinu because of the way D3 went.


You are correct in a purely objective sense: it makes sense for a "townie" to do what he needs to do to survive.

However, other town players (jock, VE, slam, etc.) were not purely "trying to survive" - they were pushing lynches, often by creating "binary" choices between themselves and their scumreads. These binary choices put the town players in serious danger. The actions by players who did this are strong town tells. Chez's play is absent of this.

I raise the point of Chez's play to contrast it with how town players were acting, as opposed to calling Chez's play "scummy". Chez played objectively well, but nonethless, his play stands out.

I disagree here.

Jock wanted to lynch Chezinu. He voted for me only after VE said he is considering voting for slam (which he never did so if jock had stayed on his vote it doesnt matter where slam AND Chezinu vote, his #1 scumread still gets lynched).

I also think pushing these "binary choices" are actually scum motivated. It's easy to say this or that as mafia (hell people can even agree with it) to make way for yourself to vote for the two "scummiest" people without reasoning it better, because the "town" agrees. Also jock did it 100% wrong in the end, do you agree? Just read lol...

Slam should have been lynched. Like really, D2 i wanted to lunch him when jock claimed but i convinced myself otherwise because shockeyy didnt vote for mafia D1 (when i thought he should have) and slam did. I dare to say even if you are sure slam is town you win in lylo lynching him over me yhis game D3.

VE was always town. I agree you cant tell eho night killed someone N1 but you can tell who didnt. Me and VE never shoot TT there, period. Maybe its vecause of experience that other people lack, but yeah, me and VE were always town after that nk.

Slam was just shit and should have been lynched. I made a post about it and it was accurate. All game ve is mafia vote anyone who is not ve!??????? Fucking shit slam. At least try to do something...


Rayn, I don't understand what you're arguing. "Binary choices" are arguably bad logic and detrimental to town... but for the purposes of analyzing posts to find mafia, who cares? The alignments of the players in this game are proof that trying to lynch people for "binary" logic is not a good way of lynching mafia.

Townies do anti-town shit all the time. Townies play bad all the time. There is no justification for lynching players for such behavior if you know better.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 20 2020 20:12 GMT
#1084
This is why I want to make an app. So the rayns and Jocks of the world can be face to face when they have these arguments, and so are less inclined to just dismiss wholly what the other is saying.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 20:13 GMT
#1085
He lynched me for the fear of me not voting chezinu in a lylo with rayn/chez/jock.

Which part of that "binary" he chose (because he surely chose one -- i can even point it out) is not bad or scummy?

As i said he had the lylo he chose.
I hope it was good
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 20:15 GMT
#1086
I dont care.
Hapa you too made a shit setup. You should feel bad about it imo.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 20:16 GMT
#1087
Well bye. Unless jock plays i will haunt him ^^
table for two on a tv tray
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
July 20 2020 20:19 GMT
#1088
On July 21 2020 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
This is why I want to make an app. So the rayns and Jocks of the world can be face to face when they have these arguments, and so are less inclined to just dismiss wholly what the other is saying.


Bring back Video Mafia? :D
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 20:21 GMT
#1089
I know what you are trying to say hapa, but in the game noone was scummy except for jock. True story. And he fucked over out win con.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 20:22 GMT
#1090
By posting literally jock should have been lynched D2 and all days after.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 20:23 GMT
#1091
I am not even being mean here.
He was the only scummy person in the game after trfel.
table for two on a tv tray
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 20 2020 21:04 GMT
#1092
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 21:05 GMT
#1093
On July 21 2020 06:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 20 2020 22:11 GMT
#1094
On July 21 2020 06:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

Did you catch my meta read on Chez? It mentions you.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 20 2020 22:19 GMT
#1095
On July 21 2020 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont care.
Hapa you too made a shit setup. You should feel bad about it imo.


And the reason is...?
I'm adorable.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 20 2020 22:19 GMT
#1096
On July 14 2020 12:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2020 12:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 09 2020 08:07 Tictock wrote:
Rayn I don't expect much, but can you throw a bit to help me understand why you feel Chez is town?

I get he is sorta claiming his "character name" but I don't see how that helps identify him as town. As far as I am aware we all received a character for flavor purposes but doesn't determine alignment.

Trfel's only post is hot garbage. Excuse into throwing shade based on what happend in another game.

This is the only thing I can see that might irk Chez into killing Ticktock. He shaded Chez and in the same breath invoked the role PMs, maybe he got a role read off him.

Reposted for visibility. Also Chez is renown for being a role-player. Not as in roleplayer as in playing a character which he's ALSO renown for, but also for sniffing out roles as both alignments. NOTORIOUS, I think he's as good as like BC or Ver at shit like that. I think his D1 would have been SEARCHING for posts like this that make Chez think that the player is thinking about their role vs being vanilla and forgetting it instantly.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 20 2020 22:31 GMT
#1097
On July 21 2020 07:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2020 12:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 14 2020 12:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 09 2020 08:07 Tictock wrote:
Rayn I don't expect much, but can you throw a bit to help me understand why you feel Chez is town?

I get he is sorta claiming his "character name" but I don't see how that helps identify him as town. As far as I am aware we all received a character for flavor purposes but doesn't determine alignment.

Trfel's only post is hot garbage. Excuse into throwing shade based on what happend in another game.

This is the only thing I can see that might irk Chez into killing Ticktock. He shaded Chez and in the same breath invoked the role PMs, maybe he got a role read off him.

Reposted for visibility. Also Chez is renown for being a role-player. Not as in roleplayer as in playing a character which he's ALSO renown for, but also for sniffing out roles as both alignments. NOTORIOUS, I think he's as good as like BC or Ver at shit like that. I think his D1 would have been SEARCHING for posts like this that make Chez think that the player is thinking about their role vs being vanilla and forgetting it instantly.


Oh, I can answer this now. Day 1 post alignments I don't really pay attention. I usually use this time to get work done at work to ensure I have plenty of time to devote to end of day (as of lately). I usually transition to playing again.

My night 1 kill was based on a few factors. One, I wanted people to freak out over night kill. Be like what!?!!? Two, which many guessed correctly, avoid the tracker. Three, get rid of people who are likely to reason and side with people like VE. You got to keep the tunnelers alive, when they aren't on mafia. In the end, slam and jock voted with me to get rid of rayn (Poor Fischer). This is why I waited til end of day on the final night. I new both of these guys voted last minute with me the previous night, so they would likely change their votes again. They were not stable voters. Presence at the end of day was crucial. That is why I waited stalk the forum at end of day. I did fall asleep briefly a couple of hours before end of day. Fortunately, I woke up.

Now, that I'm not keeping my face a secret like previous years on this forum. I'll be open for video mafia. Then you guys will know that I really only do one shots for my videos. It's almost all improv, which makes it enjoyable for me to watch as well because I forget the jokes I make during my improv spree and the timing surprises me. The unexpected jokes make me laugh and because it was me making them the humor matches mine and the guy making the jokes know about the same information that I do. You don't have to worry about the audience understanding if they are very like-minded with very similar experiences.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 20 2020 22:35 GMT
#1098
On July 19 2020 03:44 Chezinu wrote:


3:54 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thank you so much Chez

"Why do we have to face the demons? Can't we just run away from them?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You only forgot to address the fact that the Masked Woman was your dead mother, ressurrected.

Now, Lucca Gallo is the ultimate Reverse Sentinel
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 20 2020 22:40 GMT
#1099
On July 21 2020 07:31 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2020 07:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 14 2020 12:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 14 2020 12:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 09 2020 08:07 Tictock wrote:
Rayn I don't expect much, but can you throw a bit to help me understand why you feel Chez is town?

I get he is sorta claiming his "character name" but I don't see how that helps identify him as town. As far as I am aware we all received a character for flavor purposes but doesn't determine alignment.

Trfel's only post is hot garbage. Excuse into throwing shade based on what happend in another game.

This is the only thing I can see that might irk Chez into killing Ticktock. He shaded Chez and in the same breath invoked the role PMs, maybe he got a role read off him.

Reposted for visibility. Also Chez is renown for being a role-player. Not as in roleplayer as in playing a character which he's ALSO renown for, but also for sniffing out roles as both alignments. NOTORIOUS, I think he's as good as like BC or Ver at shit like that. I think his D1 would have been SEARCHING for posts like this that make Chez think that the player is thinking about their role vs being vanilla and forgetting it instantly.


Oh, I can answer this now. Day 1 post alignments I don't really pay attention. I usually use this time to get work done at work to ensure I have plenty of time to devote to end of day (as of lately). I usually transition to playing again.

My night 1 kill was based on a few factors. One, I wanted people to freak out over night kill. Be like what!?!!? Two, which many guessed correctly, avoid the tracker. Three, get rid of people who are likely to reason and side with people like VE. You got to keep the tunnelers alive, when they aren't on mafia. In the end, slam and jock voted with me to get rid of rayn (Poor Fischer). This is why I waited til end of day on the final night. I new both of these guys voted last minute with me the previous night, so they would likely change their votes again. They were not stable voters. Presence at the end of day was crucial. That is why I waited stalk the forum at end of day. I did fall asleep briefly a couple of hours before end of day. Fortunately, I woke up.

Now, that I'm not keeping my face a secret like previous years on this forum. I'll be open for video mafia. Then you guys will know that I really only do one shots for my videos. It's almost all improv, which makes it enjoyable for me to watch as well because I forget the jokes I make during my improv spree and the timing surprises me. The unexpected jokes make me laugh and because it was me making them the humor matches mine and the guy making the jokes know about the same information that I do. You don't have to worry about the audience understanding if they are very like-minded with very similar experiences.


I have to admit that the only reason I decided to keep doing this "Holy Guardians" thing was because of your roleplaying and the jokes. I also think your jokingly play is a relief from a way too serious and often rule style of playing in the forums.
I think I went on with your jokes 100% of the times we've played here
I'm adorable.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-20 22:41:49
July 20 2020 22:40 GMT
#1100
On July 21 2020 07:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2020 03:44 Chezinu wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSbAVDSKhP4&feature=youtu.be


3:54 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thank you so much Chez

"Why do we have to face the demons? Can't we just run away from them?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You only forgot to address the fact that the Masked Woman was your dead mother, ressurrected.

Now, Lucca Gallo is the ultimate Reverse Sentinel


"We need to face our demons"

*stares at audience*

"Why do we have to face the demons? Can't we just run away from them?"

Forgot an important aspect!

Edit: fixed
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Prev 1 53 54 55 56 57 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
WardiTV Mondays #58
CranKy Ducklings108
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
22:00
Masters Cup 150 Open Qual
davetesta36
Liquipedia
LAN Event
18:00
Day 3: Ursa 2v2, FFA
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech119
JuggernautJason98
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 649
Shuttle 493
NaDa 24
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe137
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu361
Other Games
tarik_tv13283
shahzam461
FrodaN233
C9.Mang0190
Day[9].tv115
ViBE60
PPMD30
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick360
Counter-Strike
PGL140
Other Games
BasetradeTV22
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 58
• musti20045 36
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21076
• Ler47
Other Games
• imaqtpie1046
• Scarra412
• Shiphtur154
• Day9tv115
Upcoming Events
OSC
11h 51m
LAN Event
14h 51m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 2h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 9h
LAN Event
1d 14h
IPSL
1d 17h
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
BSL 21
1d 19h
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs Sterling
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
2 days
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
2 days
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.