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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9959 Posts
July 20 2020 19:19 GMT
#1081
Good.
Enjoy your forum.
I'm done here.
RIP Meatloaf <3
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 19:46 GMT
#1082
gg
table for two on a tv tray
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
July 20 2020 19:59 GMT
#1083
On July 21 2020 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2020 00:57 Hapahauli wrote:
On July 20 2020 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It is not that, it's just that i dont see why chezinu wouldnt have voted like he did as town either. Well i dont really know if he WOULDNT have, but i know he SHOULDNT have, because its just stupid to lynch yourself lol..

Also i dont really care abot being lynched. If i did i would have probably voted for chezinu in any world. Sadly i didnt think he is mafia.

I also find it more pleasing the game ended as it did than voting for chezinu because of the way D3 went.


You are correct in a purely objective sense: it makes sense for a "townie" to do what he needs to do to survive.

However, other town players (jock, VE, slam, etc.) were not purely "trying to survive" - they were pushing lynches, often by creating "binary" choices between themselves and their scumreads. These binary choices put the town players in serious danger. The actions by players who did this are strong town tells. Chez's play is absent of this.

I raise the point of Chez's play to contrast it with how town players were acting, as opposed to calling Chez's play "scummy". Chez played objectively well, but nonethless, his play stands out.

I disagree here.

Jock wanted to lynch Chezinu. He voted for me only after VE said he is considering voting for slam (which he never did so if jock had stayed on his vote it doesnt matter where slam AND Chezinu vote, his #1 scumread still gets lynched).

I also think pushing these "binary choices" are actually scum motivated. It's easy to say this or that as mafia (hell people can even agree with it) to make way for yourself to vote for the two "scummiest" people without reasoning it better, because the "town" agrees. Also jock did it 100% wrong in the end, do you agree? Just read lol...

Slam should have been lynched. Like really, D2 i wanted to lunch him when jock claimed but i convinced myself otherwise because shockeyy didnt vote for mafia D1 (when i thought he should have) and slam did. I dare to say even if you are sure slam is town you win in lylo lynching him over me yhis game D3.

VE was always town. I agree you cant tell eho night killed someone N1 but you can tell who didnt. Me and VE never shoot TT there, period. Maybe its vecause of experience that other people lack, but yeah, me and VE were always town after that nk.

Slam was just shit and should have been lynched. I made a post about it and it was accurate. All game ve is mafia vote anyone who is not ve!??????? Fucking shit slam. At least try to do something...


Rayn, I don't understand what you're arguing. "Binary choices" are arguably bad logic and detrimental to town... but for the purposes of analyzing posts to find mafia, who cares? The alignments of the players in this game are proof that trying to lynch people for "binary" logic is not a good way of lynching mafia.

Townies do anti-town shit all the time. Townies play bad all the time. There is no justification for lynching players for such behavior if you know better.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 20 2020 20:12 GMT
#1084
This is why I want to make an app. So the rayns and Jocks of the world can be face to face when they have these arguments, and so are less inclined to just dismiss wholly what the other is saying.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 20:13 GMT
#1085
He lynched me for the fear of me not voting chezinu in a lylo with rayn/chez/jock.

Which part of that "binary" he chose (because he surely chose one -- i can even point it out) is not bad or scummy?

As i said he had the lylo he chose.
I hope it was good
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 20:15 GMT
#1086
I dont care.
Hapa you too made a shit setup. You should feel bad about it imo.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 20:16 GMT
#1087
Well bye. Unless jock plays i will haunt him ^^
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
July 20 2020 20:19 GMT
#1088
On July 21 2020 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
This is why I want to make an app. So the rayns and Jocks of the world can be face to face when they have these arguments, and so are less inclined to just dismiss wholly what the other is saying.


Bring back Video Mafia? :D
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 20:21 GMT
#1089
I know what you are trying to say hapa, but in the game noone was scummy except for jock. True story. And he fucked over out win con.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 20:22 GMT
#1090
By posting literally jock should have been lynched D2 and all days after.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 20:23 GMT
#1091
I am not even being mean here.
He was the only scummy person in the game after trfel.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 20 2020 21:04 GMT
#1092
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 21:05 GMT
#1093
On July 21 2020 06:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 20 2020 22:11 GMT
#1094
On July 21 2020 06:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

Did you catch my meta read on Chez? It mentions you.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 20 2020 22:19 GMT
#1095
On July 21 2020 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont care.
Hapa you too made a shit setup. You should feel bad about it imo.


And the reason is...?
I'm adorable.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 20 2020 22:19 GMT
#1096
On July 14 2020 12:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2020 12:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 09 2020 08:07 Tictock wrote:
Rayn I don't expect much, but can you throw a bit to help me understand why you feel Chez is town?

I get he is sorta claiming his "character name" but I don't see how that helps identify him as town. As far as I am aware we all received a character for flavor purposes but doesn't determine alignment.

Trfel's only post is hot garbage. Excuse into throwing shade based on what happend in another game.

This is the only thing I can see that might irk Chez into killing Ticktock. He shaded Chez and in the same breath invoked the role PMs, maybe he got a role read off him.

Reposted for visibility. Also Chez is renown for being a role-player. Not as in roleplayer as in playing a character which he's ALSO renown for, but also for sniffing out roles as both alignments. NOTORIOUS, I think he's as good as like BC or Ver at shit like that. I think his D1 would have been SEARCHING for posts like this that make Chez think that the player is thinking about their role vs being vanilla and forgetting it instantly.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 20 2020 22:31 GMT
#1097
On July 21 2020 07:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2020 12:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 14 2020 12:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 09 2020 08:07 Tictock wrote:
Rayn I don't expect much, but can you throw a bit to help me understand why you feel Chez is town?

I get he is sorta claiming his "character name" but I don't see how that helps identify him as town. As far as I am aware we all received a character for flavor purposes but doesn't determine alignment.

Trfel's only post is hot garbage. Excuse into throwing shade based on what happend in another game.

This is the only thing I can see that might irk Chez into killing Ticktock. He shaded Chez and in the same breath invoked the role PMs, maybe he got a role read off him.

Reposted for visibility. Also Chez is renown for being a role-player. Not as in roleplayer as in playing a character which he's ALSO renown for, but also for sniffing out roles as both alignments. NOTORIOUS, I think he's as good as like BC or Ver at shit like that. I think his D1 would have been SEARCHING for posts like this that make Chez think that the player is thinking about their role vs being vanilla and forgetting it instantly.


Oh, I can answer this now. Day 1 post alignments I don't really pay attention. I usually use this time to get work done at work to ensure I have plenty of time to devote to end of day (as of lately). I usually transition to playing again.

My night 1 kill was based on a few factors. One, I wanted people to freak out over night kill. Be like what!?!!? Two, which many guessed correctly, avoid the tracker. Three, get rid of people who are likely to reason and side with people like VE. You got to keep the tunnelers alive, when they aren't on mafia. In the end, slam and jock voted with me to get rid of rayn (Poor Fischer). This is why I waited til end of day on the final night. I new both of these guys voted last minute with me the previous night, so they would likely change their votes again. They were not stable voters. Presence at the end of day was crucial. That is why I waited stalk the forum at end of day. I did fall asleep briefly a couple of hours before end of day. Fortunately, I woke up.

Now, that I'm not keeping my face a secret like previous years on this forum. I'll be open for video mafia. Then you guys will know that I really only do one shots for my videos. It's almost all improv, which makes it enjoyable for me to watch as well because I forget the jokes I make during my improv spree and the timing surprises me. The unexpected jokes make me laugh and because it was me making them the humor matches mine and the guy making the jokes know about the same information that I do. You don't have to worry about the audience understanding if they are very like-minded with very similar experiences.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 20 2020 22:35 GMT
#1098
On July 19 2020 03:44 Chezinu wrote:


3:54 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thank you so much Chez

"Why do we have to face the demons? Can't we just run away from them?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You only forgot to address the fact that the Masked Woman was your dead mother, ressurrected.

Now, Lucca Gallo is the ultimate Reverse Sentinel
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 20 2020 22:40 GMT
#1099
On July 21 2020 07:31 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2020 07:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 14 2020 12:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 14 2020 12:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 09 2020 08:07 Tictock wrote:
Rayn I don't expect much, but can you throw a bit to help me understand why you feel Chez is town?

I get he is sorta claiming his "character name" but I don't see how that helps identify him as town. As far as I am aware we all received a character for flavor purposes but doesn't determine alignment.

Trfel's only post is hot garbage. Excuse into throwing shade based on what happend in another game.

This is the only thing I can see that might irk Chez into killing Ticktock. He shaded Chez and in the same breath invoked the role PMs, maybe he got a role read off him.

Reposted for visibility. Also Chez is renown for being a role-player. Not as in roleplayer as in playing a character which he's ALSO renown for, but also for sniffing out roles as both alignments. NOTORIOUS, I think he's as good as like BC or Ver at shit like that. I think his D1 would have been SEARCHING for posts like this that make Chez think that the player is thinking about their role vs being vanilla and forgetting it instantly.


Oh, I can answer this now. Day 1 post alignments I don't really pay attention. I usually use this time to get work done at work to ensure I have plenty of time to devote to end of day (as of lately). I usually transition to playing again.

My night 1 kill was based on a few factors. One, I wanted people to freak out over night kill. Be like what!?!!? Two, which many guessed correctly, avoid the tracker. Three, get rid of people who are likely to reason and side with people like VE. You got to keep the tunnelers alive, when they aren't on mafia. In the end, slam and jock voted with me to get rid of rayn (Poor Fischer). This is why I waited til end of day on the final night. I new both of these guys voted last minute with me the previous night, so they would likely change their votes again. They were not stable voters. Presence at the end of day was crucial. That is why I waited stalk the forum at end of day. I did fall asleep briefly a couple of hours before end of day. Fortunately, I woke up.

Now, that I'm not keeping my face a secret like previous years on this forum. I'll be open for video mafia. Then you guys will know that I really only do one shots for my videos. It's almost all improv, which makes it enjoyable for me to watch as well because I forget the jokes I make during my improv spree and the timing surprises me. The unexpected jokes make me laugh and because it was me making them the humor matches mine and the guy making the jokes know about the same information that I do. You don't have to worry about the audience understanding if they are very like-minded with very similar experiences.


I have to admit that the only reason I decided to keep doing this "Holy Guardians" thing was because of your roleplaying and the jokes. I also think your jokingly play is a relief from a way too serious and often rule style of playing in the forums.
I think I went on with your jokes 100% of the times we've played here
I'm adorable.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-20 22:41:49
July 20 2020 22:40 GMT
#1100
On July 21 2020 07:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2020 03:44 Chezinu wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSbAVDSKhP4&feature=youtu.be


3:54 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thank you so much Chez

"Why do we have to face the demons? Can't we just run away from them?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You only forgot to address the fact that the Masked Woman was your dead mother, ressurrected.

Now, Lucca Gallo is the ultimate Reverse Sentinel


"We need to face our demons"

*stares at audience*

"Why do we have to face the demons? Can't we just run away from them?"

Forgot an important aspect!

Edit: fixed
lol, clueless in The Prism!
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