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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9887 Posts
July 14 2020 03:06 GMT
#881
Good luck. I'm going for a 4am walk cos i'm TOTALLY RANDOM like that and i do better thinking in air.
I'll be back in half an hour or something.
RIP Meatloaf <3
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 14 2020 03:08 GMT
#882
On July 14 2020 12:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2020 08:07 Tictock wrote:
Rayn I don't expect much, but can you throw a bit to help me understand why you feel Chez is town?

I get he is sorta claiming his "character name" but I don't see how that helps identify him as town. As far as I am aware we all received a character for flavor purposes but doesn't determine alignment.

Trfel's only post is hot garbage. Excuse into throwing shade based on what happend in another game.

This is the only thing I can see that might irk Chez into killing Ticktock. He shaded Chez and in the same breath invoked the role PMs, maybe he got a role read off him.

Reposted for visibility. Also Chez is renown for being a role-player. Not as in roleplayer as in playing a character which he's ALSO renown for, but also for sniffing out roles as both alignments. NOTORIOUS, I think he's as good as like BC or Ver at shit like that. I think his D1 would have been SEARCHING for posts like this that make Chez think that the player is thinking about their role vs being vanilla and forgetting it instantly.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9887 Posts
July 14 2020 03:08 GMT
#883
On July 14 2020 12:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2020 08:07 Tictock wrote:
Rayn I don't expect much, but can you throw a bit to help me understand why you feel Chez is town?

I get he is sorta claiming his "character name" but I don't see how that helps identify him as town. As far as I am aware we all received a character for flavor purposes but doesn't determine alignment.

Trfel's only post is hot garbage. Excuse into throwing shade based on what happend in another game.

This is the only thing I can see that might irk Chez into killing Ticktock. He shaded Chez and in the same breath invoked the role PMs, maybe he got a role read off him.


Just saw this.
Its not exactly a smoking gun.
I know chez has payed close attention to rayn this game. Rayn suggesting we check me/tictock and then chez killing tictock does make alot of sense.

RIP Meatloaf <3
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 14 2020 03:10 GMT
#884
Mmmmmm......I can absolutely see Chezinu second-on-the-wagon on his partner too. Yeeeeesss I can see it quite clearly in my mind's eye it's quite easy. I can see it as if it were the truth.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 14 2020 03:11 GMT
#885
On July 14 2020 12:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2020 12:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 09 2020 08:07 Tictock wrote:
Rayn I don't expect much, but can you throw a bit to help me understand why you feel Chez is town?

I get he is sorta claiming his "character name" but I don't see how that helps identify him as town. As far as I am aware we all received a character for flavor purposes but doesn't determine alignment.

Trfel's only post is hot garbage. Excuse into throwing shade based on what happend in another game.

This is the only thing I can see that might irk Chez into killing Ticktock. He shaded Chez and in the same breath invoked the role PMs, maybe he got a role read off him.


Just saw this.
Its not exactly a smoking gun.
I know chez has payed close attention to rayn this game. Rayn suggesting we check me/tictock and then chez killing tictock does make alot of sense.


It makes perfect sense, that's 50/50 that he killed the person they checked. I was absolutely going to mention that Cake ALMOST CERTIANLY checked Ticktock and that whoever...

omg you just figured it out that's EXACTLY why Chez kills TT. Because he knows that if HE'S checked, then he's fucked anyway it's him vs the claim, but if TT is checked, then he just fucked the role because the role gets no result and their check is wasted.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 14 2020 03:15 GMT
#886
rayn come back and read this and either vote Chez with us and we'll hold hands and vote Jock tomorrow if we're wrong or explain to me why I'm wrong about my deep meta understanding of Chez' play and you're right about your "hehehe demons and Fischer and puppies he's town" read.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9887 Posts
July 14 2020 03:16 GMT
#887
On July 14 2020 12:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2020 12:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 14 2020 12:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 09 2020 08:07 Tictock wrote:
Rayn I don't expect much, but can you throw a bit to help me understand why you feel Chez is town?

I get he is sorta claiming his "character name" but I don't see how that helps identify him as town. As far as I am aware we all received a character for flavor purposes but doesn't determine alignment.

Trfel's only post is hot garbage. Excuse into throwing shade based on what happend in another game.

This is the only thing I can see that might irk Chez into killing Ticktock. He shaded Chez and in the same breath invoked the role PMs, maybe he got a role read off him.


Just saw this.
Its not exactly a smoking gun.
I know chez has payed close attention to rayn this game. Rayn suggesting we check me/tictock and then chez killing tictock does make alot of sense.


It makes perfect sense, that's 50/50 that he killed the person they checked. I was absolutely going to mention that Cake ALMOST CERTIANLY checked Ticktock and that whoever...

omg you just figured it out that's EXACTLY why Chez kills TT. Because he knows that if HE'S checked, then he's fucked anyway it's him vs the claim, but if TT is checked, then he just fucked the role because the role gets no result and their check is wasted.


Yeah it makes sense.
I need to clear my head though i just woke up in the middle of the night. I don't want to leave myself alive on day 4 (town insta loses in this situation i think) so we need to be sure.
I'll be back in half an hour-an hour and i'll change my vote if i think its enough of a sure thing. Anything else you can find on chezinu in the meantime would be handy
I've got a hospital appointment tomorrow afternoon so might not be able to be around much.
RIP Meatloaf <3
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 14 2020 03:20 GMT
#888
I'm almost certain. I'm sad, I don't like lynching Chez, but I do it if I think he's mafia. And I really think he's mafia here.

Rayn vote Chez I'm almost certain he's mafia
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 14 2020 03:21 GMT
#889
He's got you pocketed rayn, crawl out of the pocket. I'm holding it open dog just crawl out. We're waiting for you.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 14 2020 03:36 GMT
#890
Okay this is dicey. I just realized Chez is part of rayn's win condition if it IS rayn and so will not be convinced - and that will look identical to rayn having an unshakable town read on Chez as town if it's someone like Slam.

You're right, we have to be sure.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 14 2020 03:37 GMT
#891
Like the game very well could be decided on this lynch. :/
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 14 2020 03:39 GMT
#892
And I'm the only clear.

Swell.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9887 Posts
July 14 2020 03:43 GMT
#893
ok so i'm sorry if this is useless but i've been trying to get into chez's RPing mindset to see if there's anything useful we can get from his videos.

All I could think of is that literally eating a symbolic standin for trfel while killing him definitely has an 'ancient evil' vibe to it.

Also he blended his trifle as a sadistic way to make me suffer. Surely only evil would partake in such things.

And yeah, I'm pretty sure the game gets decided here VE.

Convince me that its not rayn instead of just saying 'don't worry about rayn' and we can at least be on the same page going in to the lynch.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9887 Posts
July 14 2020 03:44 GMT
#894
For my part, I hated the way rayn came into today like slam is the lynch but without even the slightest open mind toward me not being mafia. I cant square that circle. It looks pure scum. If there's some ironclad argument from earlier in the game that i'm not getting it coudl do with explaining now.
RIP Meatloaf <3
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 14 2020 03:45 GMT
#895
Well I did already try. Read my posts, I didn't just repeatedly say "don't worry about it" until the end here.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 14 2020 03:47 GMT
#896
On July 14 2020 12:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
For my part, I hated the way rayn came into today like slam is the lynch but without even the slightest open mind toward me not being mafia. I cant square that circle. It looks pure scum. If there's some ironclad argument from earlier in the game that i'm not getting it coudl do with explaining now.

Here's why it makes sense from a town rayn mindset:

He's got this FIRM townread on Chez and me - so from his perspective it's either you or Slam, and if you survive another night you get auto-lynched the next day. It's the safe play because if he's wrong and it's Slam, he wins too.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 14 2020 03:50 GMT
#897
I was wrong before, I'm not confident Chez would lynch rayn in F3 if he's town and rayn is mafia. So there's that too. rayn has been hard defending Chez from nearly relentless attacks all game long. The pocket is deep between those two and I'm not sure how to dislodge it if it's not you or Slam.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9887 Posts
July 14 2020 03:51 GMT
#898
On July 14 2020 12:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well I did already try. Read my posts, I didn't just repeatedly say "don't worry about it" until the end here.


The most i can really find is that its his day 1 read of trfel.
Explain to me why that can't come from mafia rayn.

I'm thinking back to a specific game where Eversince knew she wasn't going to be able to get internet later on so rayn bussed her from the very beginning of the game. The whole game felt like this tbh.

If there's something specific about the argument that rayn used to vote for trfel, i'm not seeing it, so help me see it.

RIP Meatloaf <3
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 14 2020 03:54 GMT
#899
On July 14 2020 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like if rayn is mafia, his game wasn't perfect. He idiotically bussed his partner D1, Trfel could've ridden for D1 and came back blazing D2 it happens ALL the time. There's no long-con justification for bussing your partner D1 in mafia it's a numbers game dog.

^ Why I think this game doesn't look like rayn mafia play ^

I think the case rayn made on D1 is more likely to come from a town rayn than a bussing mafia rayn. The way he gets aggravated when people don't play the way he wants. It all just feels very town to me.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9887 Posts
July 14 2020 03:55 GMT
#900
On July 14 2020 12:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2020 12:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
For my part, I hated the way rayn came into today like slam is the lynch but without even the slightest open mind toward me not being mafia. I cant square that circle. It looks pure scum. If there's some ironclad argument from earlier in the game that i'm not getting it coudl do with explaining now.

Here's why it makes sense from a town rayn mindset:

He's got this FIRM townread on Chez and me - so from his perspective it's either you or Slam, and if you survive another night you get auto-lynched the next day. It's the safe play because if he's wrong and it's Slam, he wins too.


hmmm

I can maybe see it. Leaving something to 'if you survive another night you are auto mafia' just gives mafia an auto-win an entire day in advance in the case that i'm town.
RIP Meatloaf <3
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